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Posted by ludawg23 on Apr-22-2007 00:37:
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Originally posted by djstopngo
I don't think so. He's just not hitting well and that's compounded by his outfield play, which (though he plays the monster well) has always looked lackluster. An encouraging sign is that he has as many walks as strikeouts (9 a piece) which generally means a hitter's taking good at bats. One thing, too, to remember is that for such a dominant hitter, Manny's extremely streaky. He'll hit .200 one month and .375 the next. His numbers will be there at the end of the year, I think, and look for him to catch fire sometime around the beginning of June. If not, we're in trouble.
PS I know it's early, but Drew has looked great at the plate. |
Manny's too good of a hitter, his numbers will definitely be there at the end of the season. Don't forget that he started off very slow last season as well and caught fire right around June.
Posted by steven-neil on Apr-22-2007 02:12:
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Originally posted by ludawg23
Manny's too good of a hitter, his numbers will definitely be there at the end of the season. Don't forget that he started off very slow last season as well and caught fire right around June. |
and threw in the towel in August.....
Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-22-2007 12:57:
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Originally posted by djstopngo
PS I know it's early, but Drew has looked great at the plate. |
JD Drew has always looked good at the plate. It's just that he's not at the plate too often. If he were consistently healthy, he'd put up Gary Sheffield numbers every year. They have the same career line:
.288/.394/.511 - Drew
.296/.397/.523 - Sheff
Posted by steven-neil on Apr-23-2007 19:08:
WTF,,,jerZ.....Sox come from behind to beat us in all three games....
Posted by partyhopper on Apr-23-2007 21:36:
Philip Hughes will make his major league debut on Thursday
Karstens will go back into the fire against the Sox on Friday
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-23-2007 21:42:
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Originally posted by steven-neil
WTF,,,jerZ.....Sox come from behind to beat us in all three games.... |
i know, and before the series they were talking about how strong our bullpen was. although the second game wasn't really a come from behind. Didn't Karstens get rocked.
anyways...i'm glad i don't get worked up until around the all star break. They usually stay close enough that it doesn't matter until that point.
One good thing that came out of this series was that it exposed that the boston starting rotation wasn't that good. Each starter gave up at least 4 runs. Their 100 million man gave up 6. Not too good if you ask me. Things should get better. Wang is back on Tuesday and i think matsui is coming back soon. When mussina comes back we should be in good shape.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-23-2007 21:43:
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Originally posted by partyhopper
Philip Hughes will make his major league debut on Thursday
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SOURCE????????
the yankees haven't announced a call up as of yet.
Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-23-2007 22:49:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
Their 100 million man gave up 6. Not too good if you ask me. |
And before that, he had given up 6 runs in 20 innings. One bad start does not make a bad starting pitcher. He still struck out 7 in 7 innings. And only gave up 8 hits and 1 walk. Really, he didn't pitch poorly.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-23-2007 23:03:
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Originally posted by partyhopper
Philip Hughes will make his major league debut on Thursday
Karstens will go back into the fire against the Sox on Friday |
so i just heard this on YES. Hope its not too early.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-23-2007 23:18:
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Originally posted by Shamez214
And before that, he had given up 6 runs in 20 innings. One bad start does not make a bad starting pitcher. He still struck out 7 in 7 innings. And only gave up 8 hits and 1 walk. Really, he didn't pitch poorly. |
His other three games were against KC, Seattle, and Toronto. The only team in there that is good is toronto.
Against the yankees his ERA was 7.714. If that was expanded over the season he wouldn't have a job, regardless whether he had 200 K's or not.
Posted by djstopngo on Apr-23-2007 23:22:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
so i just heard this on YES. Hope its not too early. |
In all honesty, I think that it is - not b/c he needs more time, he's one of two top pitching prospects in the country. Rather, I wonder how his arm strength will hold as the season moves along, especially if he does well and remains in the rotation. The Yanks will need him in August, not April.
Further, it's a long season and there really is no need to panic after they way they played this weekend which, quite frankly, was quite well. The offensive numbers for both teams are scarily similar when you consider the rotations both teams had on display.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-24-2007 00:11:
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Originally posted by djstopngo
In all honesty, I think that it is - not b/c he needs more time, he's one of two top pitching prospects in the country. Rather, I wonder how his arm strength will hold as the season moves along, especially if he does well and remains in the rotation. The Yanks will need him in August, not April.
Further, it's a long season and there really is no need to panic after they way they played this weekend which, quite frankly, was quite well. The offensive numbers for both teams are scarily similar when you consider the rotations both teams had on display. |
considering that boston was hitting against double A pitchers, they weren't that impressive. They could barely hit Pettitte.
Posted by djstopngo on Apr-24-2007 00:51:
Yes, that's exactly what I said.
Posted by steven-neil on Apr-24-2007 01:02:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
considering that boston was hitting against double A pitchers, they weren't that impressive. They could barely hit Pettitte. |
Yep,,,and then Torre took him out.....What puzzles me though jerZ is that...Our bats are strong,,,you cant complain about the out or infield..So why didnt we spend our money on the pitching.....
Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-24-2007 02:32:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
His other three games were against KC, Seattle, and Toronto. The only team in there that is good is toronto.
Against the yankees his ERA was 7.714. If that was expanded over the season he wouldn't have a job, regardless whether he had 200 K's or not. |
Okay... so, you HONESTLY think he's going to have a career 7.71 ERA against the Yankees? It's one start.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-24-2007 03:29:
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Originally posted by djstopngo
Yes, that's exactly what I said. |
my bad, i didn't read it that way.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-24-2007 03:31:
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Originally posted by steven-neil
Yep,,,and then Torre took him out.....What puzzles me though jerZ is that...Our bats are strong,,,you cant complain about the out or infield..So why didnt we spend our money on the pitching..... |
im thinking because we're trying to build a young pitching staff. If you spend money on older guys your not going to have room for the young guys. You need to have a soft spot to allow the pitchers to come up. The worst move was going for igawa. If they were going to spend the $$$ on igawa, why not just pay for lilly, a proven number 4 guy. Igawa cost 46 million with the bidding and the 4 year contract, lilly cost 40 million for 4 years, and at the moment lilly has a 2.42 era (granted its in the NL, but its better than igawa's 7+ era). It looks like igawa would get smacked around by a junior college team.
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Originally posted by Shamez214
Okay... so, you HONESTLY think he's going to have a career 7.71 ERA against the Yankees? It's one start. |
of course not, i only threw that up to show you he didn't pitch well at all. Who cares how many K's he has when he lets up that many runs. In result, a K is no different than a pop fly to the left fielder. The only reason i used his game era was to show how poorly he pitched that game. If you expand it out you can truly see how poorly the performance was.
Posted by djstopngo on Apr-24-2007 04:37:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
my bad, i didn't read it that way. |
haha I'm just messing with you, man.
Actually, this is becoming one of my favorite threads. None of my friends like baseball as much as I do so it's cool to find a bunch a people who are really into it.
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Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-25-2007 06:19:
BUMP.
I know the yankees have been sucking for the last few days, but we have a few things to look forward to: Hideki, Wang, and Hughes. If by Wang's next outing the ship doesn't show signs of righting, then we may be in for a long season.
Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-25-2007 10:07:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
im thinking because we're trying to build a young pitching staff. If you spend money on older guys your not going to have room for the young guys. You need to have a soft spot to allow the pitchers to come up. The worst move was going for igawa. If they were going to spend the $$$ on igawa, why not just pay for lilly, a proven number 4 guy. Igawa cost 46 million with the bidding and the 4 year contract, lilly cost 40 million for 4 years, and at the moment lilly has a 2.42 era (granted its in the NL, but its better than igawa's 7+ era). It looks like igawa would get smacked around by a junior college team.
of course not, i only threw that up to show you he didn't pitch well at all. Who cares how many K's he has when he lets up that many runs. In result, a K is no different than a pop fly to the left fielder. The only reason i used his game era was to show how poorly he pitched that game. If you expand it out you can truly see how poorly the performance was. |
Nope. A K is better. When the ball is put in play, errors can be made. Sacrifice's can happen. When a batter strikes out, he strikes out. Nothing else can happen.
As for Daisuke, he didn't pitch that bad. His peripheral stats were all great during the game.
Posted by steven-neil on Apr-25-2007 13:18:
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Originally posted by Shamez214
Nope. A K is better. When the ball is put in play, errors can be made. Sacrifice's can happen. When a batter strikes out, he strikes out. Nothing else can happen.
As for Daisuke, he didn't pitch that bad. His peripheral stats were all great during the game. |
but at the same time when the ball is in play you have the chance to make double and triple plays...Bases can also be stolen whether a pitcher is throwing strikes or not....
I'm still new to this game so i'm not saying i'm 100% correct,,i'm still learning...However what i hate to see is intentionally walking the bases loaded to try and make these plays,,,especially when the game is tight and its late on in the game....Mondays game against the Devil Rays proved this,,,Torres poor judgement cost us the game...
Wheres Joe Girardi????,,I wanna see him back in a managerial position....
Posted by verndogs on Apr-25-2007 14:33:
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Originally posted by steven-neil
Wheres Joe Girardi????,,I wanna see him back in a managerial position.... |
he's back broadcasting with the YES network. He's the best announcer for YES in my opinion
Posted by EarnYourKeep on Apr-25-2007 15:03:
i can say the yanks rotation and bullpen are officially garbage
never was a fan of meyers, bring back stanton!
even though my boys are losing, i'm still a yankees fan...loud n proud
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