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Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
You know how frustrating it is to have a discussion with someone who continuously changes the subject of discussion when they're in a hole? I'm sure you do.


What changes? The only changes ive made were to help someone who knows jack shit comprehend better. You didnt get it the first few times.

And why are you limiting it to Sasha And Digweed, when ive mentioned "Prominent DJ's throughout the whole discussion. Sickazz selective reader.


Posted by RJT on May-23-2008 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
What changes? The only changes ive made were to help an idiot who knows jack shit comprehend better.

And why are you limiting it to Sasha And Digweed, when ive mentioned "Prominent DJ's throughout the whole discussion. Sickazz selective reader.




You make all these accusations with nothing, NOTHING to back them up.

I think I have to believe at this point you're just continuing all this because you're bored, as I can't imagine any sane person actually believing the utter nonsense you continue to post.


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
What changes? The only changes ive made were to help an idiot who knows jack shit comprehend better.

And why are you limiting it to Sasha And Digweed, when ive mentioned "Prominent DJ's throughout the whole discussion. Sickazz selective reader.



Because this is where we started:


quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.



Which, as demonstrated by the above quotes, you progressively molded into "Sasha & Digweed or other DJs like Howells" and then finally "Prominent DJs".



So, back to the beginning, back to why this argument started in the first place, WHICH PRODUCERS MAKE TRACKS BECAUSE THEY WANT SASHA & DIGWEED TO PLAY THEM?.

Thats the only thing I want clarified at this point.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT


You make all these accusations with nothing, NOTHING to back them up.

I think I have to believe at this point you're just continuing all this because you're bored, as I can't imagine any sane person actually believing the utter nonsense you continue to post.


What exactly do I have to back up? Do you have amnesia? Didnt you say a page ago that what im saying is the obvious? LOL...FFS.

Why do I have to backup what im saying, when im pointing out the "obvious truth." And what backup do I need, ive opened the door to all producers, Clovis should have named a producer and said, nah this producer has never crafted a track to a specific DJ's sound, all his tracks are so fucking radical, they're not of this world. Im basically debating with a group of vegetables who have pretty much lost their minds on TA. Its just funny watching you guys make no progress and still not get something so simple, once its been explained half a dozen times now.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Because this is where we started:





Which, as demonstrated by the above quotes, you progressively molded into "Sasha & Digweed or other DJs like Howells" and then finally "Prominent DJs".



So, back to the beginning, back to why this argument started in the first place, WHICH PRODUCERS MAKE TRACKS BECAUSE THEY WANT SASHA & DIGWEED TO PLAY THEM?.

Thats the only thing I want clarified at this point.


But it is a fact that producers do cater their sound towards Sasha & Digweed. But that was just an example of two producers, as the discussion went on of course I had to include the fact that there are more DJ's out there. How can 2 DJ's impose their sound on all producers? Sasha & Digweed was an example to make a point, I didnt think I had to go furthur until I realised realised I was dealing with complete tard packs.


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
And what backup do I need, ive opened the door to all producers, Clovis should have named a producer and said, nah this producer has never crafted a track to a specific DJ's sound, all his tracks are so fucking radical, they're not of this world.



Because that is NOT what we are arguing about or WHY this argument started. I am fully aware of the influence producers take from DJs, other producers, musical movements, clubs, eras, afterparties etc. But it is extremely rare for ONE specific DJ to be the driving force behind a producer's output, and specifically today, I cannot think of one producer who takes their musical cues from Sasha & Digweed. You claim many do. BACK. THAT. UP.

Once again:


quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
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Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.
quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
But it is a fact that producers do cater their sound towards Sasha & Digweed.



WHO.


LIST.



ONE!


Posted by Nostalgic on May-23-2008 18:48:

DEADMAU5!!one!1on1


Posted by Dj Skez on May-23-2008 18:50:



Lionslair, give it up already for fucks sake, you've made one of the dumbest statements I've read on TA in a long time. Just read the quote Clovis posted multiple times, and then think hard about what you've said, then go fuck yourself.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Because that is NOT what we are arguing about or WHY this argument started. I am fully aware of the influence producers take from DJs, other producers, musical movements, clubs, eras, afterparties etc. But it is extremely rare for ONE specific DJ to be the driving force behind a producer's output, and specifically today, I cannot think of one producer who takes their musical cues from Sasha & Digweed. You claim many do. BACK. THAT. UP.

Once again:



FFS. The principle is that, DJ's shape the sound that producers craft their music after. Do you understand that simple concept? That covers all producers, and their respected DJ's. Dolt. Sasha & Digweed were a good example of two DJ's that producers follow. You are still clinging onto them being the only ones that producers follow, when no one said that, they were just used as an example. Having realised that you have your head up ur ass throughout the discussion I had to include prominent DJ's into the mix because you dont comprehend that Sasha & Digweed is an example to support a fact.


Posted by RJT on May-23-2008 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
What exactly do I have to back up? Do you have amnesia? Didnt you say a page ago that what im saying is the obvious? LOL...FFS.

Why do I have to backup what im saying, when im pointing out the "obvious truth." And what backup do I need, ive opened the door to all producers, Clovis should have named a producer and said, nah this producer has never crafted a track to a specific DJ's sound, all his tracks are so fucking radical, they're not of this world. Im basically debating with a group of vegetables who have pretty much lost their minds on TA. Its just funny watching you guys make no progress and still not get something so simple, once its been explained half a dozen times now.


Again, outstanding job on missing the point entirely. When you're changing the topic as often as you are, it surprises no one that one time out of a hundred you say something that happens to be right.

The fact of the matter is that you're ignoring every single legitimate question posed to you because you can't respond to them in an intelligent manner. The only one here who doesn't appear to see that is you.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
WHO.


LIST.



ONE!


Every

Single

Producer

Who

Makes

Club

Music


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
FFS. The principle is that, DJ's shape the sound that producers craft their music after. Do you understand that simple concept? That covers all producers, and their respected DJ's. Dolt. Sasha & Digweed were a good example of two DJ's that producers follow. You are still clinging onto them being the only ones that producers follow, when no one said that, they were just used as an example. Having realised that you have your head up ur ass throughout the discussion I had to include prominent DJ's into the mix because you dont comprehend that Sasha & Digweed is an example to support a fact.


This is not an example:

quote:
Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
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Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
quote:
Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?
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Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


WHO?


Posted by RJT on May-23-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Every

Single

Producer

Who

Makes

Club

Music


Just when I thought you couldn't fail any harder, you go and do something like this and remind me the depths to which human intelligence can sink are even lower than I can possibly imagine.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Just when I thought you couldn't fail any harder, you go and do something like this and remind me the depths to which human intelligence can sink are even lower than I can possibly imagine.


You still havent added a single cent to the discussion, tard. All you do is attack people from a corner, while your homebois try to debate lol. Seriously do something usefull with yourself.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
This is not an example:





WHO?


WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?

WHO?


Your hopeless.


Posted by RJT on May-23-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
You still havent added a single cent to the discussion, tard. All you do is attack people from a corner, while your homebois try to debate lol. Seriously find do something usefull with yourself.


There isn't any debate to be had here, and I'm sure my "homebois" would completely agree.

It's like arguing with a a new earth creationist - there's no point. At this point the only value this thread has is in watching you continue to run yourself in circles, so in that sense, I'm adding plenty to this discussion.

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Your hopeless.


You'd also do well to brush up on your "your/you're" and "they're/their/there."


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Every

Single

Producer

Who

Makes

Club

Music


quote:
cater their music to their style of the moment.



Thanks, thats the connection we needed. I didn't know all these guys were making music with the hope of having sasha & digweed propel them into fame and get them noticed. I'm glad it looks like most of them are succeeding.

01 [000:00] Dubfire - RibCage
02 [008:00] Brazilian Girls - Last Call (Carl Craig Remix Instrumental)
03 [014:00] ID
04 [021:00] Sebo K & Metro - Transit
05 [027:00] ID
06 [034:00] Rejected - SL3
07 [039:00] Sasha - Coma
08 [048:00] Sasha - Park It In The Shade
09 [055:00] Mistress Barbara - Barcelona (Holden Bell Dub)
10 [058:00] Mistress Barbara - Barcelona
11 [065:00] Layo & Bushwacka! - Ride The Train (Bushwacka! Remix)
12 [071:00] Audion - Mund Zu Mund
13 [079:00] UNKLE feat Ian Astbury - Burn My Shadow (Agoria Remix)
14 [087:00] Blackstrobe - I'm A Man (Audion Donation Mix)
15 [095:00] Siobhan Donaghy - Don't Give It Up (Carl Craig Dub Remix)
16 [103:00] Elite Force - You (Perc Dub)
17 [108:00] Rui Da Silva - Escaping My Mind (Matt Tolfrey & Inxec Remix)
18 [115:00] Petter - Freak 'N Love (Dousk Vectored Mix)
19 [120:00] Guy Gerber & Chaim - My Space
20 [127:00] Motiivi:Tuntematon - I Don�t Feel Good (When You�re Not Around)
21 [131:00] Purple Code - The Rising
22 [137:00] Chemical Brothers - Out Of Control (Sasha Remix)
23 [146:00] Sasha - Mongoose
24 [156:00] Chaim - Genesis
25 [162:00] Alex Metric - Breakin' Hearts
26 [167:00] Rejekts - Es Kubells (Argy Remix)
27 [172:00] Umek - Ricochet Effect
28 [181:00] Guy J - Save Me
29 [188:00] Cirez D - Tigerstyle
30 [193:00] Thom Yorke - The Eraser (Stretch & Vern Edit)
31 [202:00] Chemical Brothers - Do It Again (Oliver Hunterman Remix)
32 [213:00] Leftfield - Not Forgotten (Hard Hands Mix)


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-23-2008 19:00:

This thread has reached legendary status.

Thanks RJT and Clovis!


Posted by Clovis on May-23-2008 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
This thread has reached legendary status.

Thanks RJT and Clovis!



I really should be working but this is actually really exciting


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-23-2008 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I really should be working but this is actually really exciting

Nothing beats reading a few pages of a thread, being bombarded with work for 5 straight hours and then coming back to the thread to find it 25 pages long of absolute hilarity. I needed a few good laughs!


Posted by Dj Skez on May-23-2008 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Every

Single

Producer

Who

Makes

Club

Music


How is that even fucking possible. There's so many Djs and producers who's sounds have nothing in common with the House, Techno and minimal tracks they're known for. Well known Djs/producers like John 00 Fleming, Astral Projection, Man with no name, Hallucinogen, etc. I can go on and on. Learn the history of EDM and the many genres/sub-genres before you make wild claims like that.

Matter of fact, don't even bother with that. Just go back to your video game rants and post them on youtube, fucking loser.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
There isn't any debate to be had here, and I'm sure my "homebois" would completely agree.

It's like arguing with a a new earth creationist - there's no point. At this point the only value this thread has is in watching you continue to run yourself in circles, so in that sense, I'm adding plenty to this discussion.



You'd also do well to brush up on your "your/you're" and "they're/their/there."


Uh...your dense as fuck huh? Ive stated the obvious according to you. What have you, Clovis, and the supporting cast proved? Lack of comprehension and debate skills. Clovis obviously still thinks producers by the hundreds have flocked to techno without a prominent DJ bringing them to the sound lol. He thinks Sasha and Digweed are the only examples, when they were simply 2 prominent DJ's that have caused producers to craft their sound around them. Who who who, Im not in all producers brains, the evidence is in the movements in sounds. Exactly WHO is not even of importance. So its funny watching Clovis beat his head on his keyboard asking Who, when thats the least of importance. Stop skipping over the principle that was outlined in the first post, and reoutlined a dozen more times.

/thread
/discussion


Posted by wotyzoid on May-23-2008 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Every

Single

Producer

Who

Makes

Club

Music


You

Fail

At

Life


Posted by bas on May-23-2008 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair

You're the only one that keeps mentioning Sasha & Digweed


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