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Posted by DragonsEmerald on Oct-13-2004 20:25:

My friend is still trying to hunt down the white label track. I'll let you guys know if I ever get an ID on it!


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-14-2004 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
My friend is still trying to hunt down the white label track. I'll let you guys know if I ever get an ID on it!


Thank you for at least trying! I think we might as well just email Paul or his public relations manager to be honest.


Posted by DragonsEmerald on Oct-14-2004 01:29:

Oakenfold has been asked many times. He has no clue what the track was and he has so many records it would be impossible for him to find it.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-14-2004 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
Oakenfold has been asked many times. He has no clue what the track was and he has so many records it would be impossible for him to find it.


That sucks. I'm sure that DJ Shadow and his crate digging friends would have remembered after listening to it.

As musically astute as Oakey seems to be, you would think that he would be able to remember one of his career highlight sets.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-14-2004 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
That sucks. I'm sure that DJ Shadow and his crate digging friends would have remembered after listening to it.

As musically astute as Oakey seems to be, you would think that he would be able to remember one of his career highlight sets.


its not realistic to think oakie would remember a tune he played once in a career where he plays night after night for 13 years


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-14-2004 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Specially with a collection like his, easily, EASILY over 200,000 records.


So I guess I just overestimated his knowledge and ability as a musician.

As I was saying, DJ Shadow has one of the largest record collections in the world (It easily puts Oakey's to shame)

quote:
On the flip side, who's to say that there isn't an art in finding and being able to access many samples from many records, knowing which will work with each other. In my opinion, the art of sampling can be considered a fine art in some cases, such as DJ Shadow. DJ Shadow is known for his elaborate record collection and knowledge of each record. He can orchestrate things with his records that would just blow you away. He knows instrumentals, where to loop them, where a drum break that will fit a track exists, what narration and samples will fit on that track. (...).

http://www.townhallmusic.com/albums...ftheweek83.html





If Oakey knew enough about that vinyl to properly program it into his Rojam set then I would think that he would be able to remember it if he heard it. I mean, it was an entire track, not just the sound bits from it - something that DJ Shadow is known for remembering.

Perhaps I just have lofty expectations. Oh well.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-14-2004 04:48:

well i mean he could have just recieved it in 99 right before the show, played it because it was new and fresh, and tossed it in the pile...


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-14-2004 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
You have to remember, that shadow is a scratch dj, they search and search and collect those records... so they know them more than most other DJ's. Dance DJ's get hundreds of records a month from labels, individuals, etc... so they really go through alot of records and dont know whats what with some of them.


Actually, you're mistaken in thinking that he's just a scratch DJ. He often transcends musical boundaries and has produced Electronica, Downtempo, and Breaks as well as Hip-Hop and Trip-Hop.


Posted by Simcut on Oct-14-2004 06:43:

Smile

I keep listening to the EM World Tour sets a lot, damn I wish so much that Lex was released


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-14-2004 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Did I say that? It sounds like your looking for a fight? His record collection is more suited to what he would use as a SCRATCH DJ, it dont matter what he produces thats something totally diffrent. I dont know what your really trying to prove...


Dude, if I was just looking for a fight I would make an effort to find a more knowledgable adversary. This is a discussion, verging on debate.

Do you actually know what genres or what records his collection is even comprised of? You're making statements based on assumptions. His productions are created by taking samples from a diverse vinyl collection - he doesn't sample CD's, only vinyl.

You don't even really seem to know what DJ Shadow is about - but since he is highly adept at turntablism you think that you know what he has in his record collection? Come on.

I've been told by a few reliable sources that he has nearly as many electronica (Trance, House, Breaks, etc) vinyls as Oakey. You just have to consider that his entire collection is probably more than five times the size of Oakey's to begin with.





http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/recor...e-fiction.shtml


What I'm trying to prove is that if Oakey really had a serious love for his music he would remember what that track was in his Rojam set. It was one of the major highlights of his Essential Mix world tour and he doesn't remember it? I'm sorry but I don't buy that.


Posted by Simcut on Oct-14-2004 06:59:

Smile

Take all the drugs away from Oakey, then force him to remember the song name


Posted by RJOllos on Oct-14-2004 09:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
What I'm trying to prove is that if Oakey really had a serious love for his music he would remember what that track was in his Rojam set. It was one of the major highlights of his Essential Mix world tour and he doesn't remember it? I'm sorry but I don't buy that.


Yeah maybe; more importantly, if Oakey had a serious love for his greatest of fans, then he would find it for us. Of course, not knowing what that track is keeps this thread and the interest alive.


Posted by gzmums on Oct-14-2004 12:01:

I have spoken to the guy who made 'Lex - Vertical Horizon' and he said that he hasn't got any copies of this, because it was never finished. He also promised to send me some of his other work and never bothered. He ran a label called Hard Discs, which released a Planet Heaven tune.


Posted by gzmums on Oct-14-2004 12:03:

Don't forget that Oakey has had his record box stolen quite a few times in the past. There may have been some real gems in there, including maybe the only copy of track 9 ????


Posted by bbjosh on Oct-15-2004 07:45:

well the guy that did that track,,

wouldnt he have known how big the track got? but then we gotta realise, if we all knew the name to that track, it wouldnt be so big and we wouldnt keep talking about ' that ' track with no id

mmm perhaps some of u guys can reproduce that track? lol since the guy who did it doesnt seem to care, lol

or remix it and call it,, ID ( watever mix )


Posted by DragonsEmerald on Nov-13-2004 02:54:

I emailed Slacker's manager and she confirmed that Slacker's "Goddam Noize" was never put on vinyl. It is currently on the release schedule though so you can look for it in the future on Jukebox In The Sky.


Posted by DragonsEmerald on Nov-13-2004 03:00:

She said that the version Oakenfold and Sasha played was unfinished and that the FINISHED version would be released. I asked her if the exact version Oakenfold and Sasha played will be put on the flipside and I am awaiting a response.


Posted by montana on Mar-25-2005 01:18:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=252704

this thread proves the non existance of the supernatural mix, so, i suggest we list it as "Tilt - Invisible (Tilt's Supernatural Dub) with acapella" or something


Posted by Simcut on Mar-25-2005 11:29:

isnt that supernatural one otherwise known was Tilt's Human Mix ?


Posted by kerykeion on Apr-09-2005 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
It doesn't really matter if he finds it or not anyway. This track was done by an amateur from Germany, only about 20 copies were sent out.

This track has never been signed to a label and never will be, so it would be impossible to find even after having the track title (if it was even named). The only possibility would be to get a high quality recording of the track from vinyl.


How did find out that this track was done by an amateur from Germany?


Posted by DragonsEmerald on May-16-2005 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by kerykeion
How did find out that this track was done by an amateur from Germany?


I know someone that owns the record, and he remembers the reaction sheet saying so.


Posted by THE_Chris on May-16-2005 21:10:

Borrow & rip


Posted by DragonsEmerald on May-16-2005 21:11:

Good news for everyone who liked Slacker's "Goddam Noize", I just received an email from the manager of Slacker's record label and she told me "Goddam Noize" will be in shops in the end of June. "Tutikinegi" will be on the flipside. The original version of "Goddam Noize" will NOT be part of this vinyl release, BUT it WILL be available exclusively in the Jukebox In The Sky webshop mid July.


Posted by DragonsEmerald on May-16-2005 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Borrow & rip


The problem is, he has thousands of white labels. It would be nearly impossible for him to find it because he sent the reaction sheet back.


Posted by THE_Chris on May-17-2005 17:59:

It might be worth digging for....

What else was on the reaction sheet?? If he can remember. Any info, no matter how obscure, might help.


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