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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I hate the BB, but if you have to get one, wait. Otherwise, Droid X or Droid Pro (Droid2 with global roaming) is what I would choose.

for some reason i just like the bb. can't give a concrete reason why. don't really know all that much about phones. maybe i'll just get the droid. did you mean wait as in wait until the torch is on verizon?

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights for some reason i just like the bb. can't give a concrete reason why. don't really know all that much about phones. maybe i'll just get the droid. did you mean wait as in wait until the torch is on verizon?

I meant wait because the whole BlackBerry OS 6 is going to create an onslaught of new devices.

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Originally posted by Frenkieee I'm loving the Galaxy S too! Thanks for bringing it to my attention Ben. And yeah, Swype isn't very useful when using abbreviations, slang, etc. Just using the default keyboard makes texting a lot easier.

no it is easy, man! type your slang word manually on swype, then after long press in the box and click "add word to dictionary". swype just learned your slang. i have some retarded ones on there, it's fantastic

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 no it is easy, man! type your slang word manually on swype, then after long press in the box and click "add word to dictionary". swype just learned your slang. i have some retarded ones on there, it's fantastic

Yeah I knew about this, but for me, it isn't the slang. It just blows for people that prefer to actually type. Especially ones that type fast such as myself. I changed to the default Android keyboard and things improved greatly.

Picked up the Samsung Vibrant from T-Mobile, yesterday. This is my first Smart Phone, but wanted to get into one that had good reviews and some future proofing. I'm looking forward to the Android 2.2 upgrade that's slated to be coming in September.

Battery life is the only real gripe I have with it, it's not horrible, but it's definitely not great, either. I'm not having the issues some users are describing when it comes to battery life, so I don't think I'll return it, but I'm patiently awaiting a higher MAh battery to come out for it.

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Originally posted by cmay119 Picked up the Samsung Vibrant from T-Mobile, yesterday. This is my first Smart Phone, but wanted to get into one that had good reviews and some future proofing. I'm looking forward to the Android 2.2 upgrade that's slated to be coming in September. Battery life is the only real gripe I have with it, it's not horrible, but it's definitely not great, either. I'm not having the issues some users are describing when it comes to battery life, so I don't think I'll return it, but I'm patiently awaiting a higher MAh battery to come out for it.

That is my only complaint, too. I have been using it as an mp3 player today, and the damn thing is pretty low right now. It is already telling me to charge my phone.

The FLAC playback is flawless though. Absolutely LOVE this feature.

Oh and rooting the phone is super easy. Will be loading CyanogenMod on it as soon as it is available.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I have both an iPod touch and the new HTC Evo4. I laugh when people talk about how awesome their iPhone is.

haha same except i now have the htc desire: The touch is nice for apps, would shoot myself if i had to use it as a phone though!!

for the samsung guys, have you tried Swiftkey?? It's in the market, pretty sweet keyboard, it actually scans your msgs for words, adds them to your dictionary and recomends what you would say next after entering a word: You can pretty much type a whole message only typing the first word (if you send similar messages all the time )

edit: I don't think i made any sense, check out the WEBSITE

edit 2: If you don't wanna go to the site,



my desire is going fucking well, I love the Sense UI as well, so good to finally have a stock UI that isn't complete shit (since i got it outright, no stupid carrier apps etc too!)

still will be getting the streak when it comes out here though muahahaha

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel That is my only complaint, too. I have been using it as an mp3 player today, and the damn thing is pretty low right now. It is already telling me to charge my phone. The FLAC playback is flawless though. Absolutely LOVE this feature. Oh and rooting the phone is super easy. Will be loading CyanogenMod on it as soon as it is available.

Ben, if I'm a linux noob (especially with command-line), is rooting my phone worth my time? I understand after you do it, it gives you administrative access to everything on the phone, but I also don't want to void my warranty either (I'm not sure if this is a warranty voiding move?).

What do you think? Worth it, if I'm just getting my feet wet in this fandangled app world? Or just play in the shallow end of the pool for the time being? I have no problem admitting I may be in a little over my head with what this phone is capable of doing.

Thanks, man!

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Originally posted by cmay119 Ben, if I'm a linux noob (especially with command-line), is rooting my phone worth my time? I understand after you do it, it gives you administrative access to everything on the phone, but I also don't want to void my warranty either (I'm not sure if this is a warranty voiding move?). What do you think? Worth it, if I'm just getting my feet wet in this fandangled app world? Or just play in the shallow end of the pool for the time being? I have no problem admitting I may be in a little over my head with what this phone is capable of doing. Thanks, man!

You haven't a reason to even need to bother with the command line on the phone for the most part. There are graphical solutions for pretty much everything I have seen.

The whole warranty voiding is a crock of shit. There are a bunch of places online that tell you how to remove root (it is pretty much just delete 3 files and reboot) and once you do that, it is reverted back. I used root though to delete some things like Slacker Radio, GoGo in flight internet, TeleNav, and one other thing I can't remember.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel You haven't a reason to even need to bother with the command line on the phone for the most part. There are graphical solutions for pretty much everything I have seen. The whole warranty voiding is a crock of shit. There are a bunch of places online that tell you how to remove root (it is pretty much just delete 3 files and reboot) and once you do that, it is reverted back. I used root though to delete some things like Slacker Radio, GoGo in flight internet, TeleNav, and one other thing I can't remember.

When you say that the warranty voiding is a crock, do you just mean that you're apposed to companies voiding warranties for it? Or, do you mean that they don't void warranties at all for it? Just trying to understand, before I make any decision on the matter.

Besides removing apps, does it really give me any true advantages over what I already have access wise with my phone? I don't really mind waiting for the official release of Froyo, so if an early OS update is the only really good selling point to rooting the phone, I think I may just hold off. Just afraid of bricking the phone...

Obviously, I can google for this, which I have, but I'm just trying to get an end-users opinions to my questions directly, if you don't mind.

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Originally posted by EgosXII haha same except i now have the htc desire: The touch is nice for apps, would shoot myself if i had to use it as a phone though!! for the samsung guys, have you tried Swiftkey?? It's in the market, pretty sweet keyboard, it actually scans your msgs for words, adds them to your dictionary and recomends what you would say next after entering a word: You can pretty much type a whole message only typing the first word (if you send similar messages all the time ) edit: I don't think i made any sense, check out the WEBSITE

WANT!!
looks so much better than swype

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Originally posted by cmay119 When you say that the warranty voiding is a crock, do you just mean that you're apposed to companies voiding warranties for it? Or, do you mean that they don't void warranties at all for it? Just trying to understand, before I make any decision on the matter. Besides removing apps, does it really give me any true advantages over what I already have access wise with my phone? I don't really mind waiting for the official release of Froyo, so if an early OS update is the only really good selling point to rooting the phone, I think I may just hold off. Just afraid of bricking the phone... Obviously, I can google for this, which I have, but I'm just trying to get an end-users opinions to my questions directly, if you don't mind.

You won't brick the phone. There are advantages other than that. Some apps require root to be able to be used. It just makes it easier if you root it, because you never have to worry if the app requires root or not.

Hey Ben I'm interested in what's mediocre on the iPhone? I've been using different android phones like desire and I don't see much difference at all. Droid got widgets but I like app store better. iPhone 4 got better screen IMO and slighty better smoothness overall in animations with no slowdowns that I notice in eg desire. You can root the android which is awesome but there is jailbreak. But I don't like to pirate software anymore since I got the money to pay. But it's not about pirate software I know. I'm just curious. I'm no fanboi in any direction since I got apple products but still love win 7 etc and use Linux as well.

Written on my iPhone in a hotel room.

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Originally posted by narcism WANT!! looks so much better than swype

it's awesome AND free

I pretty much don't type anything with it... i guess i send pretty repetitive messages though

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Originally posted by cmay119 Ben, if I'm a linux noob (especially with command-line), is rooting my phone worth my time? I understand after you do it, it gives you administrative access to everything on the phone, but I also don't want to void my warranty either (I'm not sure if this is a warranty voiding move?). What do you think? Worth it, if I'm just getting my feet wet in this fandangled app world? Or just play in the shallow end of the pool for the time being? I have no problem admitting I may be in a little over my head with what this phone is capable of doing. Thanks, man!

Dude, check out this link to Modding without hacking...

Cyanogenmod uses ADW launcher as it's base home-screen... Try out ADW Launcher (which is free) And the Launcher pro homescreen replacements, they're great, really easy to install (and uninstall if you don't like them) and are heaps better than the stock Galaxy S one imo


LINK to modding instead of hacking

Fuck, 2.2 is so awesome, watching embedded YouTube thru the browser is epic win

Gonna get on the Chrome to phone app too which looks great

Samsung Galaxy S sporting Gorilla Glass to protect that precious AMOLED

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Remember this horribly painful video? The Gorilla Glass protection on the Dell Streak is undoubtedly a selling point, and now Corning, the maker of said glass, has announced that the Samsung Galaxy S (which includes the Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate, and Epic 4G in its brood) employs the same alkali-aluminosilicate glass shield. The glass is similar to the "helicopter windshield" stuff Apple uses on the iPhone 4, which was rumored to be Gorilla Glass at one point, and while neither tech is impervious to shattering, they certainly can take a beating -- but just try and do that pen stab torture test while we're not looking, alright? We don't have the stomach to witness another beautiful Android handset so roughly handled. PR is after the break.

Source

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Originally posted by Cloudburst Hey Ben I'm interested in what's mediocre on the iPhone? I've been using different android phones like desire and I don't see much difference at all. Droid got widgets but I like app store better. iPhone 4 got better screen IMO and slighty better smoothness overall in animations with no slowdowns that I notice in eg desire. You can root the android which is awesome but there is jailbreak. But I don't like to pirate software anymore since I got the money to pay. But it's not about pirate software I know. I'm just curious. I'm no fanboi in any direction since I got apple products but still love win 7 etc and use Linux as well. Written on my iPhone in a hotel room.

The whole ecosystem of Apple and the requirement to use what they deem okay is the biggest reason it is mediocre. No real innovation allowed, because they stifle it if it competes with their own offerings or is thinking outside the box. Which most of the best apps do.

In the general sense, jailbreaking shouldn't even be considered an option. I don't think rooting is either, but you can download an app that will root your phone from the market. You shouldn't HAVE to jailbreak just to get lots of apps. Just like root isn't something really needed, but some apps require it because of the way in which they work. Most of the apps that do require it though, have non-root alternatives.

Yes, the screen is amazing, cool, but do you buy a phone based on the fact that it comes in the color you want? Or do you buy it based on its capabilities?

Plus, the update schema on the iPhone sucks balls. Android has gotten the scheme right. It just sucks that the platform itself is a bit fragmented.

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Originally posted by EgosXII Fuck, 2.2 is so awesome, watching embedded YouTube thru the browser is epic win Gonna get on the Chrome to phone app too which looks great

Flash is on the Galaxy S and it only has 2.1, but 2.2 is awesome because there was a lot of focus on optimisation of the entire OS.

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Originally posted by leph555 Samsung Galaxy S sporting Gorilla Glass to protect that precious AMOLED Source

FUCK YES!!!

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Yes, the screen is amazing, cool, but do you buy a phone based on the fact that it comes in the color you want? Or do you buy it based on its capabilities?

The screen is a capability though really isn't it?

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 The screen is a capability though really isn't it?

The screen is not a capability, just an enabler. Think of the screen like a lens on a DSLR. You can have the best camera in the world, but if you have shit lenses coughHTCANDPLASTICLENSEScough, you will still have shit pictures no matter how hard you try. The screen is just a lens on an input source. A really nice screen makes the input look equally fantastic, but you can't take a shit input source and expect perfection.

i know you are f5'ing the frenchie thread

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Originally posted by epicaricacy i know you are f5'ing the frenchie thread

I don't even know what thread you are talking about. Is there seriously another frenchie thread? *goes to the thread index*

lol.

jew lies.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy lol. jew lies.

I really hadn't looked at the index in a long while, but fuck me, lulz. Reading now.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel The screen is not a capability, just an enabler. Think of the screen like a lens on a DSLR. You can have the best camera in the world, but if you have shit lenses coughHTCANDPLASTICLENSEScough, you will still have shit pictures no matter how hard you try. The screen is just a lens on an input source. A really nice screen makes the input look equally fantastic, but you can't take a shit input source and expect perfection.

Yes I understand this, but the camera is only one source of imagery for the screen. Everything else from applications to browsing will look sharp as a lemon soaked pin.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel The screen is not a capability, just an enabler. Think of the screen like a lens on a DSLR. You can have the best camera in the world, but if you have shit lenses coughHTCANDPLASTICLENSEScough, you will still have shit pictures no matter how hard you try. The screen is just a lens on an input source. A really nice screen makes the input look equally fantastic, but you can't take a shit input source and expect perfection.

Yes I understand this, but the camera is only one source of imagery for the screen. Everything else from applications to browsing will look sharp as a lemon soaked pin.

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