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Basically what I am getting from this thread is that you all think that killing yourself is perfectly fine if you feel like doing it.

Gotcha.

I have to break my silence and just interject with this really quick...

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The whole behavior and anything related to it is meant to cause harm and destruction to those that loved that person.

I love you, man, but you're an absolute fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by jennypie For real Nou, you don't get it. Stfu.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby No they have some other condition, thats treatable, or at least can be controlled to some degree. That or they are mentally weak.

So why shouldn't suicide be a viable option? Some don't want to take pills or go to therapy. What's wrong with just wanting to die? Have you ever known a severely depressed or mentally fucked person?

What do I not get? I think I get it very fucking well. I think we all get it. I think though that we all have different opinions on the validity of suicide as a means for dealing with a situation.

Getting mad, Nou? Calm down, princess.

much of the stigma attached to suicide is because of religious beliefs. In many cultures suicide is not frowned upon and in some cases even considered hounorable.

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Originally posted by jennypie Because it's not YOUR choice.

how can suicide not be the choice of the person doing it? and honestly, i believe that thinking about how other people will feel afterwards is the last thing on their minds at the moment they swallow the pills or pull the trigger, since they have already taken the decision to end their life.

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Originally posted by jennypie So why shouldn't suicide be a viable option? Some don't want to take pills or go to therapy. What's wrong with just wanting to die? Have you ever known a severely depressed or mentally fucked person?

Yes, but how many of these people that kill themselves actually seek the right treatment. A lot of this stuff that people don't deal with can be helped with out pills in therapy and other activities.

If the person is out and out totally mentally compensated than yes, they should be allowed to kill themselves. They are no longer viable genetic stock and their persistence is only a drawback to human propagation and advancement. I mean thats a viable way of looking at it as well right? Maybe we should cull the mentally ill, depressed people? Put them in the same camp as the autistics and down syndromes people were in during the Nazi eugenics programs?

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Originally posted by epicaricacy much of the stigma attached to suicide is because of religious beliefs. In many cultures suicide is not frowned upon and in some cases even considered hounorable.

this is true. mayan culture believed suicide was the only way into heaven, suicide by hanging was especially honorable

Of course. And the problem with a guy like Nou is not that he thinks suicide is wrong...it's that he obviously hasn't thought about or examined the values underlying his beliefs.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy in some cases even considered hounorable.

certainly not your case though. had you gone through with it that is..which is good that you didn't.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I mean thats a viable way of looking at it as well right? Maybe we should cull the mentally ill, depressed people? Put them in the same camp as the autistics and down syndromes people were in during the Nazi eugenics programs?

Uh, how you even got to this point I don't know.

are you anti abortion too nou?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean how can suicide not be the choice of the person doing it?

Of course it is. I meant not NOU's choice. As in, not anyone else's choice but the person doing it.

aaaaalright.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy are you anti abortion too nou?

No. I am pro-choice.

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Originally posted by jennypie Uh, how you even got to this point I don't know.

Because you allow people to take themselves out of the gene pool and you justify it because they are mentally handicapped, then obviously a more proactive method would be to cull them from the start. Prevent those genetic lines from even starting. Less depressed people means a more happy and productive society.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Thats not the point though. Its the psychological aspect of a suicide bomber that makes people really scared. These people are willing to kill themselves, straight up with out a doubt die, for their cause.

Their lives aren't worth much to begin with, so they are hardly making any big sacrifice. Moreover, I doubt that death is the greatest contribution they could make to their cause. It's really kind of pathetic.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby No. I am pro-choice.

Seeing such intense stupidity, as well as such certainty for the rationales for what is a very personal decision, from most sides of this debate is making me want to kill myself...

The only thing I'm sure about when it comes to someone's choice to end it is that at that time, they didn't want to live anymore. Some people make an impulsive decision and some people go though 15-20 years of suffering where they want to die a good percentage of the time, but hope that it'll change someday, somehow. Everyone's different. Stop trying to make it sound like you understand it completely. Most of you have no experience with it personally, and even if you do, it's too small of a sample size to make sure broad generalizations.

I wonder how many times Nou has thought about killing himself?

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Originally posted by Arbiter Their lives aren't worth much to begin with, so they are hardly making any big sacrifice. Moreover, I doubt that death is the greatest contribution they could make to their cause. It's really kind of pathetic.

Thats still not the point. The people on the receiving side get that sense of fear. "Fear of death does not thwart these people" etc fear.

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Originally posted by jennypie I wonder how many times Nou has thought about killing himself?

Twice. Very serious contemplations over situations that I was dealing with in my life.

My realization?

If I am dead, than I am dead, what good is that for anyone? I am not better off. I am fucking dead! My family isnt better off, they lost a son.

So why do it? Its fucking pointless and will only hurt people that I care about deeply. They did nothing to me. I have nothing to spite them for.

So yea. Its something you can think about, but if you have any sense of empathy for the ones you love you realize that you play a role outside of your own Id and you are part of other peoples lives. You can not make selfish decisions like that.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Seeing such intense stupidity, as well as such certainty for the rationales for what is a very personal decision, from most sides of this debate is making me want to kill myself... The only thing I'm sure about when it comes to someone's choice to end it is that at that time, they didn't want to live anymore. Some people make an impulsive decision and some people go though 15-20 years of suffering where they want to die a good percentage of the time, but hope that it'll change someday, somehow. Everyone's different. Stop trying to make it sound like you understand it completely. Most of you have no experience with it personally, and even if you do, it's too small of a sample size to make sure broad generalizations.

This. End of discussion.

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