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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: _A_ true _Gent_leman

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Honestly, you don't know what Newton's Second Law states here. The mass of the body of the plane is far, far greater than the mass of the wings. That should be your first hint at why a 37 foot wide object only created a 65 foot wide hole. The velocity and mass of the wings were not sufficient enough force to punch a similar hole in the side of the building as the body of the plane was. Why is it that you think the plane's mass was borne equally by the wing and the body? The amount of force the clipped-off wing was able to exert was minimal in comparison to the amount of resistance brought to bear by the reinforced walls.

So why isn't there two 100 foot wings any where to be seen? WHERE IS THE MASSIVE FUCKING JET LEBOWSKI?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} So why isn't there two 100 foot wings any where to be seen? WHERE IS THE MASSIVE FUCKING JET LEBOWSKI?

That depends - when was your picture taken?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} lol, touche. I actually questioned the material after I posted it, but would rather leave it there, as it was said.

This is one of the reasons people don't take any of your stuff seriously - you blindly post fact with bullshit so willingly that it's a tremendous task just to separate it sometimes. You do your own position a tremendous disservice everytime you discredit it like this.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov This is one of the reasons people don't take any of your stuff seriously - you blindly post fact with bullshit so willingly that it's a tremendous task just to separate it sometimes. You do your own position a tremendous disservice everytime you discredit it like this.

What do you mean? I've demonstrated quite clearly in the past my views on the whole situation. No one has been able to debunk anything that I have stated, I've only received dodgy, character questioning replies, that indicate that no one wants to take this seriously until someone makes a mistake.

Find me a plane in this picture. I'm getting tired of rhetorical bullshit.

I see unbroken windows. I don't see a plane. I see a few isolated fires, but no raging inferno that incinerated a plane.

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Note that the center of the impact hole in this photo taken soon after the crash is right above the standing cable spool on the left.

No one can seem to get it through their head that Pandora's Black Box clearly indicates that the Official Story is lying yet again?
Because you're agents.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} That's a 747, but if you want to use that wing span of 211 ft and compare it to the 65 ft wide gap in the Pentagon...I don't expect you to understand. Naturally you avoided all confrontation of me disproving your use of Newton's Second.

Speaking of Newtonian physics.....


Fuel load of a 727 around 18 metric tonnes.

Gross takeoff weight of a 727 85 to 100 tonnes

The majority of that mass is located in the fuselage

Lets say for arguments sake that the total mass of each fueled wing would be 15 metric tonnes (which may be a stretch). With that assumption you now have 70% of the total impulse force generated by the momentum of the aircraft acting through the centroid of the fuselage which i would argue is far more ridged than the wing by design.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} No one can seem to get it through their head that Pandora's Black Box clearly indicates that the Official Story is lying yet again? Because you're agents.

And again, you discredit yourself.

Read colonelcrisp's post - he more eloquently explained the physics I tried to earlier.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} I quickly move on? I destroyed you. The hole in the Pentagon does not fit a Boeing 757, the black box does not match the official story, the bodies look fake - there is no identification of the bodies, there is no plane except for a pittance's worth, and you're telling me I'm full of bullshit? Aluminum doesn't destroy concrete, laddy, no matter what sort of names you call me.

i have a reasonable vocabulary but i am lost for words to describe what a fucking idiot you are. i can't believe you losers are wasting your life away with this shit.

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i can't believe you losers are wasting your life away with this shit.

Funny, I could say that with how much time you waste on covering up the official story on this forum.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} So why isn't there two 100 foot wings any where to be seen? WHERE IS THE MASSIVE FUCKING JET LEBOWSKI?

Forget about the wings and the hollow aluminum fuselage, WHERE ARE THE HOLES FROM THE ENGINES? (and the engines themselves)

Don't you think that those two multi-ton engines would have made holes of their own had they actually hit that building?

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Originally posted by culorut Funny, I could say that with how much time you waste on covering up the official story on this forum.

It's amazing that despite all of the omissions, distortions, discrepancies, mistruths, and outright lies that were incorporated in the official story, we're somehow labeled as the ones who don't seem to get it simply because we don't believe in all their bulls*t. lol

I guess Orwell's supposedly fictional Ministry of Truth has in fact become a reality.

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Originally posted by culorut Funny, I could say that with how much time you waste on covering up the official story on this forum.

tell me about it. you frauds and liars make me waste my own time too.

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tell me about it. you frauds and liars make me waste my own time too.

Sure troll, trying a bit too hard you think?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X It's amazing that despite all of the omissions, distortions, discrepancies, mistruths, and outright lies that were incorporated in the official story, we're somehow labeled as the ones who don't seem to get it simply because we don't believe in all their bulls*t.

Yukihisa Fujita questions 9/11 in Japanese Parliament - Oct. 22, 2008

The conspiracy loons need to understand the differences between unsubstantiated opinion and actual evidence.

Where's the second investigation? The indictments? the peer-reviewed science?

7 years and nothing. Talk about a whole lot of wasted time!

Blueprint for Truth � The Architecture of Destruction

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Yes troll because a Japanese parliament member and multiple people (watch the last clip) that where actually at ground zero are loony.

Yes, yes they are.

If your loonies actually had some evidence to bring to bear then we wouldn't be arguing over shitty youtube videos, we would be seeing some action in the courts at the very least.

How long before you just give up? Imagine what you could have achieved had you not been wasting the last 7 years of your life. Well, YOU probably couldn't have achieved that much but im sure some of the other loonies could.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov And again, you discredit yourself. Read colonelcrisp's post - he more eloquently explained the physics I tried to earlier.

If you're addressing the magnetic declination issue..?

I reply only with this. I'm tired of getting drawn into these pointless debates. This fundamentally explains why the black box data is corect, and can be used as a reference point for logical thinking and rationale for those who need more than just a black box to tell them that the report was fudged. You don't have a plane, you do have, however, official documented lies, black box data that differs from the official version - whether you want to invoke the ridiculous idea that magnetic declination was responsible for the black box's "erroneous" flight path. If you shift anything on a map 10 degrees you're going to be miles off. I've thoroughly searched for a debunking of the black box data, to no avail, no.. I'm really interested to see how this might possibly be. lol

Nothing in any of these arguments come close to courting explanations of the astounding differences of what is common perception and scientific fact, and all aspects of the Official Story, which are perfectly addressable. A critical mind is swayed only by evidence and rational thought, and while many of you appear to do so, you propose mockeries to the standard of reality, and should be shunned for it; instead you run amok with venomous bullshit. Your breath smells like strychnine

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i have a reasonable vocabulary but i am lost for words to describe what a fucking idiot you are. i can't believe you losers are wasting your life away with this shit.

So uptight!

My vocabulary must exceed that of yours, since I have more than a few words to describe you.

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The conspiracy loons need to understand the differences between unsubstantiated opinion and actual evidence. Where's the second investigation? The indictments? the peer-reviewed science? 7 years and nothing. Talk about a whole lot of wasted time!

Many murders have been solved many years after the fact. A new, independent investigation needs to be created, with the power of subpoena and to bring charges against those who might be implicated.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yes, yes they are. If your loonies actually had some evidence to bring to bear then we wouldn't be arguing over shitty youtube videos, we would be seeing some action in the courts at the very least. How long before you just give up? Imagine what you could have achieved had you not been wasting the last 7 years of your life. Well, YOU probably couldn't have achieved that much but im sure some of the other loonies could.

You're delusional

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN The conspiracy loons need to understand the differences between unsubstantiated opinion and actual evidence.

Man.

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What do you think a black box is?
http://video.google.ca/videosearch?...24626286859522#

It goes to show how utterly detached you are from reality.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} My vocabulary must exceed that of yours, since I have more than a few words to describe you.

the difference being that i actually know how to use all of my words in a sentence. whereas you use your words incorrectly ie infer

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Many murders have been solved many years after the fact. A new, independent investigation needs to be created, with the power of subpoena and to bring charges against those who might be implicated.

so tell me, which experts would examine the evidence since all the experts that have already done so are 'in on it'?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} You're delusional

coming from the guy that thinks the fed is a private corporation profiteering from the populace, that christianity is really sun worship, that think no plane hit the pentagon and probably believes in the NWO, im glad you think im delusional. coz i'd hate to be considered sane by someone like you.

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