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Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 02:38:

So what's the picture supposed to prove?


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
In the attempt to dissuade people from talking about all the holes in the official story, I think ridicule must be one of your favorite techniques.


How ironic. What the fuck do you do here everyday? Plz, STFU dude...


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2008 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Because all the answers are unsatisfactory nonsense that people who "need to believe" (in govermenet propaganda) have readily accepted. PKC, why are you obsessing over this topic? All that says to me is that you obviously don't think alternative hypothesis and explanations are so utterly ridiculous as you keep bumping this thread over and over again. Weather you're poking fun at it, being serious, or whatever the case might be, the kind of attention you're giving to it reflects a nagging discomfort on your part. Why does it bother you if everything's fine, which relatively speaking it is according to the official conspiracy theory?


I appreciate your insights! It all makes more sense now.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2008 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
How ironic. What the fuck do you do here everyday? Plz, STFU dude...


I'd love nothing less than for you to try and make me.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-28-2008 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_z
Because all the answers are unsatisfactory nonsense that people who "need to believe" (in govermenet propaganda) have readily accepted. PKC, why are you obsessing over this topic? All that says to me is that you obviously don't think alternative hypothesis and explanations are so utterly ridiculous as you keep bumping this thread over and over again. Weather you're poking fun at it, being serious, or whatever the case might be, the kind of attention you're giving to it reflects a nagging discomfort on your part. Why does it bother you if everything's fine, which relatively speaking it is according to the official conspiracy theory?


why? because liars piss me off. especially the pseudo-(anti)intellectual ones. i have a real admiration for proper research and peer-reviewed analysis, and i resent these frauds propogating ignorance and half-truths. ive told you before, intellectual honesty is something that i care about.

that's really all there is to it.


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
I'd love nothing less than for you to try and make me.


o0o0o0oo0 tough guy......or paranoid fuck. PKC, which one?


Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
That is the Pentagon. I believe it's from the inside of ring C.

Here's a better view of the hole:




Yes it is the C ring.


Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 17:37:

Here is another angle of the C ring with the firefighters spraying water on top on the B ring.


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 17:38:

Any missile parts?


Posted by dcougar99 on Oct-28-2008 17:48:

any plane parts???


Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
any plane parts???




Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Any missile parts?


If you are implying a missile hit the pentagon which is not what we are saying then no. Missiles blow up and blow shit up.

What we are saying is if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon then show us it was Flight 77 with 100% proof.

Picture of random plane parts on a lawn are not doing you any good.


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
If you are implying a missile hit the pentagon which is not what we are saying then no. Missiles blow up and blow shit up.

What we are saying is if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon then show us it was Flight 77 with 100% proof.

Picture of random plane parts on a lawn are not doing you any good.


I'm not implying anything. I'm INFERRING from your guy's conspiracies that a missile hit the Pentagon. Now that we're switching to accepting a plane hit it, you guys now want proof that it was Flight 77. Ok, let me ask you a question? WTF else would it have been? Flight what? What proof do you need? Someone to come back from the dead and tell you, "Yep, I was on Flight 77."?


Posted by colonelcrisp on Oct-28-2008 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm not implying anything. I'm INFERRING from your guy's conspiracies that a missile hit the Pentagon. Now that we're switching to accepting a plane hit it, you guys now want proof that it was Flight 77. Ok, let me ask you a question? WTF else would it have been? Flight what? What proof do you need? Someone to come back from the dead and tell you, "Yep, I was on Flight 77."?



they are looking for that secret DOD document that states all plane wreckage lawn ornaments shall be stored on the premises in the event we need to use them as part of a mass cover up.......


Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 23:15:

You guys sure like to move goal posts when presented with a serious question.


quote:
I'm not implying anything. I'm INFERRING from your guy's conspiracies that a missile hit the Pentagon. Now that we're switching to accepting a plane hit it, you guys now want proof that it was Flight 77. Ok, let me ask you a question? WTF else would it have been? Flight what? What proof do you need? Someone to come back from the dead and tell you, "Yep, I was on Flight 77."?



No you are referring to your mixed up mind, you will not find any post that I ever mentioned a missile hitting the pentagon. I always said from the get go that if Flight 77 crashed there then show us the 100% proof because everything else that has been presented shows a much different story.


Posted by culorut on Oct-28-2008 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
they are looking for that secret DOD document that states all plane wreckage lawn ornaments shall be stored on the premises in the event we need to use them as part of a mass cover up.......


Oh no, the "engineer" that could not even prove that the official BS story is correct is back!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-28-2008 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Oh no, the "engineer" that could not even prove that the official BS story is correct is back!



we don't need to prove jack shit. the onus is with you little boy. 7 years and still no peer-review. no second investigation. losers!

everyone should check out the growth of the truth!

quote:

The decline of the 9/11 "truth" movement


For most of this year I haven't thought much about truthers. Nearly all measurements (see one exception below) indicate that their movement has been moving backwards since it peaked in 2006. They certainly haven't moved a single step closer towards achieving their goal of a major new investigation, and we know they won't be conducting or funding a serious investigation themselves. A few additional indicators of the decline:

�Attendance at the big NYC Sept. 11 truther rally
2006: 1000+
2007: about 300
2008: 120-150 (truthers' estimates)

�Even after it was opened to discussion of all conspiracies, traffic at the largest 9/11 truther website has fallen drastically over the past year.
911blogger.com unique visits, Sept. 2007: 337,000
911blogger.com unique visits, Sept. 2008: 187,000

911blogger.com had fewer visits this September, the big month for truther attention, than in all but four other months in the past year. Overall, unique visits are down by 47% over last year.

�Steven E. Jones' craptastic Journal of 9/11 Stu(n)dies published 29 articles in 2007 and 6 to date in 2008. The "Scholars" websites get almost no traffic these days.


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=126090

i shudder to think how much time the really dedicated morons are wasting with this shit.


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
No you are referring to your mixed up mind, you will not find any post that I ever mentioned a missile hitting the pentagon. I always said from the get go that if Flight 77 crashed there then show us the 100% proof because everything else that has been presented shows a much different story.


I am referring to my mixed up mind. LOL, WTF are you talking about?

So now, each one of you has a different version of the same conspiracy. Oh wow, this is getting good......so you accept it was plane, just not Flight 77? So what flight was it?


Posted by Krypton on Oct-28-2008 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=126090

i shudder to think how much time the really dedicated morons are wasting with this shit.


PKC, there is a conspiracy against the 911 truther websites. The corporate ISP's are diverting and blocking people from accessing the site, so as to limit their traffic. If you don't believe me, you're brainwashed, a troll, and a government operative.


Posted by culorut on Oct-29-2008 00:34:

Still moving goal posts I see.

Trolls....


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-29-2008 00:38:

Hearing a truther complain about 'moving goalposts' is funny considering that's the technique they practically designed!


Posted by culorut on Oct-29-2008 00:38:

quote:
[b]Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=126090

i shudder to think how much time the really dedicated morons are wasting with this shit.



The randi forums again? LOL

Surely you can do better then a bunch of other trolls who just try to attack the messengers and not the message.

Maybe the website statistics are just down because everyone already now realizes the fucking scam that 9/11 was, just a thought...


Posted by culorut on Oct-29-2008 00:42:

quote:
Hearing a truther complain about 'moving goalposts' is funny considering that's the technique they practically designed!


Sure troll I have not seen you bunch of fools directly answer the obvious facts that where just posted up a few pages back.

Who's moving goal posts and posting website statistics again?

Yeah I thought so.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-29-2008 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
The randi forums again? LOL

Surely you can do better then a bunch of other trolls who just try to attack the messengers and not the message.


the randi forums have been a force to be reckoned with in educating people about all things 911. there are (or were at least) plenty of truthers on there too, and unlike the loose change forum they weren't banned for having differing viewpoints.

i know someone like you is scared of a forum dedicated to critical thinking, so you can always head over to 911 blogger and try to get the net stats up!!

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Maybe the website statistics are just down because everyone already now realizes the fucking scam that 9/11 was, just a thought...


hahahahaha. hahahahahaha. ahhahahahahah. ahhhhhh, thanks i needed that this morning!!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-29-2008 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Sure troll I have not seen you bunch of fools directly answer the obvious facts that where just posted up a few pages back.


You havent asked a single question that hasn't been answered elsewhere. I see no reason to waste more time providing answers you highschool dropouts will never understand.

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Who's moving goal posts and posting website statistics again?


this sentence just proves you don't even understand what 'moving goalposts' actually means!!


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