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Posted by Beethoven on Mar-26-2007 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by eckmek

Many people keep on saying that Ti�sto has taken trance to "the next level" and whatever but the next level of what? In my opinion the thing he has most taken to the next level is DJ worship


how do u know?


Posted by Dilmeet on Mar-26-2007 15:42:

i know chuck norris jokes are old now, but this is actual truth,

chuck norris did when he did a roundhouse on trance


Posted by eckmek on Mar-26-2007 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
how do u know?


How do i know what? I know for a fact that a lot of people seem to think Ti�sto has taken trance to "the next level", because i have seen a fucking lot of those posts with my own eyes.

And i don't "know" that he has taken DJ worshipping to the next level, that's why there's "in my opinion" in there .


Posted by oziel on Mar-26-2007 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
i know chuck norris jokes are old now, but this is actual truth,

chuck norris did when he did a roundhouse on trance


haha you are funny


Posted by isamu on Mar-26-2007 22:54:

Re: Who Killed Trance?

quote:
Originally posted by Muff2K
Tiesto or Oakey??

i would have to say oakenfold started the death of trance. but once tiesto got huge, hold sold out quicker than Paul.


very disappointed in the scene the last couple years. everything is so copycat, and nowadays everyone is jumping on the electro bus.

anyone who's been around here since 98/99 can relate.

Oakenfold owned 1999
Tiesto owned 2001

and now? both sellouts, money does some dirty things to people. like steal their creativity.


What the hell are you talking about? The only person that killed trance is John Digweed.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-26-2007 22:58:

Re: Re: Who Killed Trance?

quote:
Originally posted by isamu
What the hell are you talking about? The only person that killed trance is John Digweed.

Huh? All Digweed did is stop spinning it.


Posted by Jake Benson on Mar-27-2007 01:18:

That vacuum hoover sound killed trance.


Posted by Dj EntycE on Mar-27-2007 01:27:

Re: Re: Who Killed Trance?

quote:
Originally posted by isamu
What the hell are you talking about? The only person that killed trance is John Digweed.


Digweed spins Prog House for a very long time now...


Posted by spc on Mar-27-2007 02:15:

say whaaaaat?


Posted by kibnetc on Mar-27-2007 14:12:

the drugs were obviously better than back then


Posted by Ishkur on Mar-27-2007 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
To tell you the truth, there's a lot of trance that to those who really like the early and mid 90s sound, the later 90s and even the early 00s stuff, isn't that much different if you remove the grandiose breakdowns.


No.


Posted by Benshin on Mar-28-2007 04:29:

If trance was really dead you guys wouldn't be here...the forum would only have like only 10 people on at one time.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-28-2007 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Benshin
If trance was really dead you guys wouldn't be here...the forum would only have like only 10 people on at one time.



Shows what you know!


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-28-2007 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Benshin
If trance was really dead you guys wouldn't be here...the forum would only have like only 10 people on at one time.


It has about 10 people who don't bitch about it all the time and actually talk about it. The rest of the 71,248 people on here...yeah that's what they do

TA is a place for recovering tranceaddicts, former tranceaddicts and addicts who are addicted to bitching about trance. Ala the continued "Who killed trance?" or "trance is dead!" threads that pop up at least 3 or 4 times a month and last for that long near the top.....30 or 40 pages later


Posted by Clovis on Mar-28-2007 05:15:

I've never made one of these threads, and I've given up bitching about trance, as it's really useless to do so.


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-28-2007 05:18:

On a side note, Daft Punk tickets for New York go on sale March 31st


Posted by richg101 on Mar-28-2007 13:13:

asot is the main thing that is holding the trance scene together. armin might not be playing my favourite sounds, but he is certainly doing a great job of promoting the genre.

the people who ruin trance are the geeks who constantly complain about it. there is only so much people can take of supersaws, and now not so many people are interested in the dated sound then less music is made in that style. get used to it. trance is different these days. and it is better on the dancefloor too.


Posted by sljiva on Mar-28-2007 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
asot is the main thing that is holding the trance scene together.



Posted by richg101 on Mar-28-2007 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva


???? asot is the biggest trance radio show. if a radio show hosted by the owner of the biggest trance label in the world, that gathers the biggest group of listeners isnt one of the main foundations, then what is? wise acre???


Posted by GILLES on Mar-28-2007 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
???? asot is the biggest trance radio show. if a radio show hosted by the owner of the biggest trance label in the world, that gathers the biggest group of listeners isnt one of the main foundations, then what is? wise acre???



ASOT is only now 30 to 40 % trance, and this is shit trance. This is electro trance / house, bad techno, and dance (filo & peri style)
I don't consider this as the biggest trance radio show.


Posted by RJT on Mar-28-2007 15:19:

Needs more


Posted by isoterra on Mar-28-2007 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
asot is the main thing that is holding the trance scene together. armin might not be playing my favourite sounds, but he is certainly doing a great job of promoting the genre.


it may be the most popular radio show/label but to say it's the main thing holding the trance scene together is laughable. armin is doing a great job of promoting the certain kinds of trance he plays, but judging/promoting an entire genre based on what one dj spins is what's 'killing trance', if anything is


quote:
the people who ruin trance are the geeks who constantly complain about it.


now this is just utterly nonsensical. the only way that complaining can have any affect on trance is when producers decide to change their sound off the back of receiving criticism, and this (in theory) would make things better, not worse. realisitically the only thing ruined by complaining is the rose-tinted 'omg armin' attitude among certain messageboard users


quote:
there is only so much people can take of supersaws, and now not so many people are interested in the dated sound then less music is made in that style. get used to it. trance is different these days. and it is better on the dancefloor too.


since when did the majority of anti-trancers complain about the lack of supersaws?

don't get me wrong here.. i still like trance, new and old.. and can't see any other genre overtaking it any time soon, nor can i see it 'dying'. but there is an increasingly large amount of bollocks getting released & getting popular.. armin plays a worryingly large amount of it & a worryingly large amoung of DJs are influenced by him. and no i don't think it works better on the dancefloor. hearing a shit tune on a big soundsystem doesn't necessarily make it better.. more often than not it just makes it a LOUD shit tune


Posted by Swamper on Mar-28-2007 17:20:

^ Good post.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-28-2007 19:16:

I have a little theory, that people like Armin, and Tiesto are just bored of trance, they dont have any emotion attached to it, and only seem to base the music they play on the reactions on the Dancefloor.

I mean, what happened to Armin ? he used to make good music, awesome compilations.. with great trance music on them, until a point were he started to play those crap type of trance like Envio, Filo & Peri and Robert Nickson.. from his Universal Religion CD it all went downhill in my opinion..


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-28-2007 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I have a little theory, that people like Armin, and Tiesto are just bored of trance, they dont have any emotion attached to it, and only seem to base the music they play on the reactions on the Dancefloor.

I mean, what happened to Armin ? he used to make good music, awesome compilations.. with great trance music on them, until a point were he started to play those crap type of trance like Envio, Filo & Peri and Robert Nickson.. from his Universal Religion CD it all went downhill in my opinion..


I don't think that the stuff on Universal Religion was all that different from some of the stuff he played on his earlier CDs and sets. It did show that trance was evolving away from super-saws and epic anthems, and moving into something that wasn't quite prog but not quite epic either. And there was still some of the same artists he's played before (Midway, Airbase, Signum, M.I.K.E., Lolo). I think it was after with his ASOT 2005 and ASOT 2006 CDs, where he got big into the vocal prog-house/dance/trance or mcprog type stuff (I guess you could call it that).


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