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Its the pro 53, not 52, the 52 is its predecessor and doesn't have the same clean sound.

Yeah I use it inside of FL Studio.

Oh, now I see.. Sorry about that pro 52 thing , don't really know why I didn't see the difference between 52 & 53

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Originally posted by State of Matter Mr. Mystery why don't you seem to approve of anything I do (you've answered everything i've said with something negative/condescending)? Anyways, what do you mean by software sound?

Er... what? I don't even know who you are.
Is it so freaking hard to realise that when I comment on something it's not a personal attack against you? Do you really think I'd waste my time listening to something only because I wanna be an asshole and post negative feedback without any reason? Are we ever going to progress anywhere if all we get is praise?

The software sound is something I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's because the elements don't have enough fx or something, it just doesn't sound as "warm" as the original. Or maybe it needed a different kind of pad. I don't know what you did to the update because I can't listen to it right now but I'm guessing this surrounding pad you added is going to fix at least some of it.

Woah, calm down, I wasn't considering them personal attacks, I was more commenting on your general demeanor. And of course Im not counting on praise all the time, I want feedback more than anything so I can continue to improve. But from the general tone of your messages all I ever seem to feel is negativity. Maybe its the lack of elaboration. The best way to give constructive criticism is to start off with a positive and then follow up with the negatives or vice versa like:

That sounds pretty good, but there's still some software sound to it.
or
It still sounds like it was made with software. It sounds pretty good though, keep working on it.

Showing encouragement as well as criticism makes it seem like you are actually trying to help and not just spouting off negative comments. That's all I'm saying.

About the loop yeah I didnt spend nearly as much time as DT8 and Koglin probably did when they arranged and mastered the elements, I was going for the lead sound and then just loaded up some presets I made before to complete it.

hi!
i've done some strings... (rank1 airwave)
click here

it's done with reason(malstr�m)

Wow what an amazing thread! You guys are champs.

I seem to learn better with hands on and being new i'm not very good with names of effects and other settings, so could any of you guys post flp files for FL Studio so i can see what u really mean...

dj. unni,
those strings sound awesome!

sounds like a nice start unni, but it's too noisy.
need's some more work

unni how did you do that? I am messing around with reason but am having no luck with getting anything neat out of Malstrom...

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Originally posted by BumpinTitaniums unni how did you do that? I am messing around with reason but am having no luck with getting anything neat out of Malstrom...

What excalty are you trying to do ?
Ill try to help out.

So would it be premature to say that VAZ modular and spectrasonics atmosphere/trilogy are the answer to the original question this thread asked (how to get phat sounds form software)? Or is the Virus/JP8000/x hardware synth still consistently better in some department?

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Originally posted by szuchy So would it be premature to say that VAZ modular and spectrasonics atmosphere/trilogy are the answer to the original question this thread asked (how to get phat sounds form software)? Or is the Virus/JP8000/x hardware synth still consistently better in some department?

Maybe you'll find it out when you try to program your own sounds with one of those spectrasonics synths?

What do you mean - that the lack of good presets is what holds software back?

No, the presets of softsynths like Atmosphere and Trilogy are fantastic, but that's all you get: presets. Creating your own sounds is not possible on such sample based synths.

I don't know VAZ modular, but I don't think creating good sounds with that synth is as easy as it is with a Virus or JP.

Even if there will be a softsynth as good as a virus in the near future, which costs 1/10 the price, I still won't give up my Indigo. I want to use 10 fingers when I'm producing, not just one clicking a mouse.

Well, I guess hardware is the best choice for you then. But for those of us who can only do something different with up to eight fingers at once, this might save you some money, if you can find a vsti as good as a virus:

http://www.kmkd.com/blueboy/eng_pro...ce8morpheus.htm

Besides, are hardware and software really that different? Both a PC and hardware synth contain both hardware and software. The main different is control interface (knobs vs mouse) and the software. Am I wrong?

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Originally posted by szuchy Besides, are hardware and software really that different? Both a PC and hardware synth contain both hardware and software. The main different is control interface (knobs vs mouse) and the software. Am I wrong?

Well there are some differences between hardware and software. I don't know this for sure, but I think hardware-synth are equipped with special oscillators. I know for sure analog ones are. So you do get a different sound when using hardware instead of software.

However, these last years soft-synths have become increasingly better and I think they will be able to match or even outperform hardware-synths in the near future.

Some hardware synths have as far as I know an internal dithering / rendering up to 96Khz which cannnot be beaten by any softsynth yet I think.

Hardware sounds for me a little bit clearer and the difference between hardware and software synths is more audible if you got high quality monitors.

I think that the sound quality which can be achieved with ( home studio ) software ( synth ) is good enough to get attention from labels...

But it's impressive what results can be achieved when you have some cool hardware samples and use them in software ( CHECK This, no update since long time: http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/minds...pes/Index2.html )

or awesome software synth patches --> novation v station patches http://www.vengeance-music.de/Virus...%20Soundset.mp3 )...

Trancevision

anybody has an Idea how to come to that
j�rgen vries - the theme
sound ?
I uploaded a sample:
click me to hear

1. Get Synth 1 (free)
2. Use this setting
3. Too lazy to post a midi but basically the notes are
G5 - G4 - F4 - D4 - C4 - Bb5 - A5 (2 beats)- Bb5 - A5 - G5 (2 beats)- A5 - G5 - F5 (2 beats) - G5 - A5 - D5 (4 beats)
4. Should sound similar to this

enjoy

thx buddy, I had everything except for the settings on synth 1




*edit* tried that setting out, the envelope ist right, but the sound not, and that was the thing I wanted... but thx anyway

If you've got Pro53 I've got an ever better setting for you. PM me for the settings...

heres some sounds im working on for pro-53

(its a zip with mp3 inside)

dj rob & wandii - trance 2004 - mp3 demo.zip

its just pro-53 with good eq and whatnot.

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Originally posted by dj-rob heres some sounds im working on for pro-53 (its a zip with mp3 inside) dj rob & wandii - trance 2004 - mp3 demo.zip its just pro-53 with good eq and whatnot.

wooow!!!! a really good sound you got there i acutally heard lots of good sound from pro53 but the sounds you have made are just amazing i did some simillar stuff like you did there but not really the same can you explain how did you done it and in wich software?

used flstudio, so i used the default fx. basically most of the fat sounds are 2 instances of pro-53 one normal pitch, and one set with the root note higher so it makes all the notes lower. then u eq them out.

if u want the sounds msn me on msn or aim..
msn: [email protected]
aim: robhasabanana

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Originally posted by dj-rob heres some sounds im working on for pro-53 (its a zip with mp3 inside) dj rob & wandii - trance 2004 - mp3 demo.zip its just pro-53 with good eq and whatnot.

WOW, rob that is one f00cking awesome sounding synth you got there.
I would never think this was made using software, are you sure your jp 8080 was not evolved in the process of the making?
heh
Amazing work man!

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