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Posted by administrator on Jul-24-2008 20:32:

interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

/ducks

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-24-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by administrator
interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

Where are you getting that?

Bach could "crank out new music" as well, perhaps even more efficiently than Mozart, but no one ever considered his stuff "mindless trash." As a court or church musician in the 17th and 18th century, you either "cranked out new music" or you got fired. So as you might imagine churning out new stuff each week was pretty common at that time.

Of course the general attitude then was that all composers were "lackeys" of sorts, paid employees meant to please their employers in the courts and churches, not "artists" displaying their own independent visions to the public at large. But that social fact says little about attitudes toward Mozart's music in particular. Cultural icons like Goethe and Haydn praised Mozart when they heard his compositions, so I'm inclined to think that you just pulled that statement out of your ass.

Posted by Ivand on Jul-24-2008 20:58:

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Originally posted by Clovis
Supermayer - 2 Of Us (Deadmau5 Edit) (Kompakt)
Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink (Deadmau5 Edit) (Border Community)

Fuck...

i think i died inside a little

Posted by deadmau5 on Jul-24-2008 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Where are you getting that?

Bach could "crank out new music" as well, perhaps even more efficiently than Mozart, but no one ever considered his stuff "mindless trash." As a court or church musician in the 17th and 18th century, you either "cranked out new music" or you got fired. So as you might imagine churning out new stuff each week was pretty common at that time.

Of course the general attitude then was that all composers were "lackeys" of sorts, paid employees meant to please their employers in the courts and churches, not "artists" displaying their own independent visions to the public at large. But that social fact says little about attitudes toward Mozart's music in particular. Cultural icons like Goethe and Haydn praised Mozart when they heard his compositions, so I'm inclined to think that you just pulled that statement out of your ass.

leave it to trance addict to throw in mozart, danny howells, the bernstein bears, the mother fuckin easter bunny and some ninjas for good measure, into some thread made up of 99.9% "whine" because some self proclaimed "critics" don't like what i want to do with my music.

i am eternally grateful that, no matter what, at the end of the day i can still run my musical career however the hell i want. *bonus* you don't have to love it.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-24-2008 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by administrator
interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

/ducks

What? Dude, Mozart was lauded by kings.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-24-2008 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by deadmau5
leave it to trance addict to throw in mozart, danny howells, the bernstein bears, the mother fuckin easter bunny and some ninjas for good measure, into some thread made up of 99.9% "whine" because some self proclaimed "critics" don't like what i want to do with my music.

i am eternally grateful that, no matter what, at the end of the day i can still run my musical career however the hell i want. *bonus* you don't have to love it.

I don't recall anyone mentioning the Berenstein Bears. I think you meant to say "leave it to trance addict to compare people who care about advancing music into a thread about people who just want to self-promote."

Posted by deadmau5 on Jul-24-2008 22:22:

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I don't recall anyone mentioning the Berenstein Bears. I think you meant to say "leave it to trance addict to compare people who care about advancing music into a thread about people who just want to self-promote."

so i should leave the promoting to..... you? i'll take my chances with the ninjas bro.

** i didnt start this thread... i just jumped in for a laugh. mission accomplished!

Posted by Clovis on Jul-24-2008 22:28:

Its just a matter of perspective. If you're happy playing for the big fuck-off festival crowd, making rather formulaic predictable dance music for the masses, bomb.com...you're gonna make bank sooner or later (that means props to Joel Zimmerman), it's clear tons of people are already loving it.

Some of us would rather search for something deeper, push creativity and inspiration further, and strive to be more like DJs such as Howells, or producers like The Mole. We'll always be that fringe viewpoint that generates this kind of backlash...fortunately for all of us dance music is big enough to where all of these perspectives can exist and thrive, even though there is friction when they meet, like in this thread.

Posted by Stef on Jul-24-2008 22:33:

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-24-2008 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by deadmau5
so i should leave the promoting to..... you? i'll take my chances with the ninjas bro.

** i didnt start this thread... i just jumped in for a laugh. mission accomplished!

So did the "ninjas" create that EM setlist too?

Posted by jupiterone on Jul-24-2008 22:43:

you people and your internets

Posted by Stef on Jul-24-2008 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Its just a matter of perspective. If you're happy playing for the big fuck-off festival crowd, making rather formulaic predictable dance music for the masses, bomb.com...you're gonna make bank sooner or later (that means props to Joel Zimmerman), it's clear tons of people are already loving it.

If he enjoys what he is doing and so do the people that he plays for, what exactly is wrong? Go ahead and argue technical points, but at the end of the day it all comes down to whether you are enjoying yourself and waking up in the morning ready to do what you love.

Posted by Clovis on Jul-24-2008 23:01:

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Originally posted by Stef De Roux
If he enjoys what he is doing and so do the people that he plays for, what exactly is wrong? Go ahead and argue technical points, but at the end of the day it all comes down to whether you are enjoying yourself and waking up in the morning ready to do what you love.

Because this is a music discussion forum and as such points of view will clash and be discussed.

Posted by nefardec on Jul-25-2008 01:00:

his complete and almost scornful dismissal of certain others who entertain differening ideas is pretty telling IMO

anyways i'm seeing identical discussions across messageboards

Posted by elFreak on Jul-25-2008 02:05:

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Originally posted by steve angello
leave it to trance addict to throw in mozart, danny howells, the bernstein bears, the mother fuckin easter bunny and some ninjas for good measure, into some thread made up of 99.9% "whine" because some self proclaimed "critics" don't like what i want to do with my music.

i am eternally grateful that, no matter what, at the end of the day i can still run my musical career however the hell i want. *bonus* you don't have to love it.

you must have expensive shoes.

Posted by winston on Jul-25-2008 02:14:

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Originally posted by deadmau5

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Originally posted by deadmau5

and quoted a third time for redundancy.

quote:
Originally posted by deadmau5

Posted by Stef on Jul-25-2008 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
you must have expensive shoes.

Posted by miamitrance04 on Jul-25-2008 03:12:

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Originally posted by infectedskills
Deanmau5 played the normal sick deadmua5 set tag with bsod before his set but it was a crazy he got the nyc crowd going on the 19th but I was hoping there where gonna be more tas didn't see so many but if u guys saw some one playing with photon orbits and blue sunglass that had blue lsd light in them that was me hope to see u all at pvd and mike aka push at love for the pvd after party

post of the year, seriously this made this whole thread worth reading.
my 2 cents: everyone is right to have an opinion at the end of the day though its all the same. if you listen to "underground" a.k.a. dubfire and someone listens to deadmau5 its the same at the end of the day. why? because each individual is happy with what they are listening to. all the criticism by the "elitists" is falling on deaf ears. Joel couldnt care less and thats evident.
However this is a music discussion forum so theres nothing wrong with stating why in your opinion his EM sucked.
I listened to the mix and i thought it mediocre at best. I tried to pretend that i didnt know all the tracks were by deadmau5 so that I wouldnt be biased to hate. At no point did I say wow and at no point did I stop the mix sooooo just ok in my book...

Posted by iammesol on Jul-25-2008 04:00:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
you must have expensive shoes.

ohshit

Posted by Gillis maximus on Jul-25-2008 04:11:

What a difference 10 years makes in producing .....(as far as the E M Mix goes)

The Man With No Name Broadcasted on Sunday 26th July, 1998

Sifteck - "Cosmic Love" (Nephalism)
Michael Kohlbecker - "Cadillac" (Qube)
Man With No Name & Mark Gardenor - "The First Day" (Perfecto)
Elyssium - "Wind Of Dust" (Nova Zehbla)
Greece 2000 - "Three Drives On A Vinyl" (Hooj Choons)
X-Dream - "Psychomachine" (Blue Room Released)
The Delta - "Faster Than The Speed Of Thought" (Blue Room Released)
Oforia - "Maximiser" (Dragonfly)
Man With No Name - "Own The World" (Perfecto)
Infernal Machine - "The Lion Mix" (Twisted)
Man With No Name & Mickey Banks - "Seratonin Sunrise" (Perfecto)
Genetic - "Floor" (Dragonfly)
X-Dream - "Radio" (Blue Room Released)
Johann - "Stranded" (Blue Room Released)
Man With No Name - "Teleport" (Perfecto)
Man With No Name - "Vavoom" (Perfecto)
Man With No Name - "Sugar Rush" (Perfecto)
Juno Reactor - "Jardin De Cecile" (Blue Room Released)

.....

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Teleport, Vavoom, and Sugar Rush ......massive!!!!

Posted by bucke on Jul-25-2008 04:46:

if you couldn't tell by now everything to deadmouse is a joke. his name is a joke. his stupid mouse suit is a joke. his music is a joke. his uber intelligent replies and comebacks are a joke. and clearly he doesn't give a shit because the whole dj thing is pretty much a joke to him and it really doesn't matter as long as he's making bank. amirite?
deadmau5 is not an artist he's a joke.

....and i really gotta hand it to the guy, he does provide me with plenty of lolz through threads like these.

Posted by LoveHate on Jul-25-2008 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by bucke
if you couldn't tell by now everything to deadmouse is a joke. his name is a joke. his stupid mouse suit is a joke. his music is a joke. his uber intelligent replies and comebacks are a joke. and clearly he doesn't give a shit because the whole dj thing is pretty much a joke to him and it really doesn't matter as long as he's making bank. amirite?
deadmau5 is not an artist he's a joke.

....and i really gotta hand it to the guy, he does provide me with plenty of lolz through threads like these.

Posted by bucke on Jul-25-2008 05:14:

hell yeah i'm fucking serious!!!!!!!!

MERCEDES TERRELL IS HAWT!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Stylz on Jul-25-2008 05:14:

to all the nay sayers check this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8TSMYh9UCI

Posted by bucke on Jul-25-2008 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Stylz
to all the nay sayers check this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8TSMYh9UCI

i waited 3 minutes for something interesting to happen and nothing happened, so i closed it. i want my 3 minutes of my life back goddamnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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