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THE NEW PEARL HARBOR
Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11

by David Ray Griffin

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Making the assumption there were actual explosions, could it be that there was perhaps something combustible in the buildings that may have caused the explosions, that weren't bombs? What I can't think of....
Just asking.

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Originally posted by skot_e Making the assumption there were actual explosions, could it be that there was perhaps something combustible in the buildings that may have caused the explosions, that weren't bombs? What I can't think of.... Just asking.

They would've had to have been mighty powerful to crack the walls in the basement (before the planes even hit)

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Arriving at 8:30 on the morning of 9-11 he went to the maintenance office located on the first sublevel, one of six sub-basements beneath ground level. There were a total of fourteen people in the office at this time. As he was talking with others, there was a very loud massive explosion which seemed to emanate from between sub-basement B2 and B3. There were twenty-two people on B2 sub-basement who also felt and heard that first explosion. At first he thought it was a generator that had exploded. But the cement walls in the office cracked from the explosion. "When I heard the sound of the explosion, the floor beneath my feet vibrated, the walls started cracking and everything started shaking." said Rodriguez, who was crowded together with fourteen other people in the office including Anthony Saltamachia, supervisor for the American Maintenance Company. Just seconds later there was another explosion way above which made the building oscillate momentarily. This, he was later told, was a plane hitting the 90th floor. Upon hearing about the plane, he immediately thought of the people up in the restaurant. Then there were other explosions just above B1 and individuals started heading for the loading dock to escape the explosion's resulting rampant fire. When asked later about those first explosions he said: "I would know if an explosion was from the bottom or the top of the building." He heard explosions both before and after the plane hit the tower. http://www.theconservativevoice.com...le.html?id=7762

Trancer-X:

As long as you admit that you could be wrong, and that your sources might be inaccurate. I'm comfortable with your point of view as a possible theory, but nothing more than a theory.

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Originally posted by DJFreaq As long as you admit that you could be wrong, and that your sources might be inaccurate. I'm comfortable with your point of view as a viable theory, but nothing more.

If only the Bush administration would do the same.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X If only the Bush administration would do the same.

Agreed

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Trancer-X: As long as you admit that you could be wrong, and that your sources might be inaccurate. I'm comfortable with your point of view as a possible theory, but nothing more than a theory.

pfft..you're way to lenient on this idiot, imho.

Trancer is a waste of usable body organs...the sooner he donates them to someone who counts in this world, the better off the world will be.

MAKE A DIFFERENCE TRANCER! Kill yourself so that others may live! PLEASE!!

Sysmagraphs or however you spell it showed no explosions before the collapse...case closed.

And i do not care to discuss this anymore....no credibal person on this planet takes the 9.11 conspirqacy seriously...no real engineers have agreed with the explosion theory bringing down the towers, no politician has hinted at a conspiracy, Osama and Hussein have yet to speak up, Osame took the blame etc etc etc...

Only theorists with strong hatred for themselves see something negative in every situation...next thing trancer-x will be saying is that Bush blew up the levies in New Orleans because he is working in tandem with the KKK to rid the south of blacks.

But what do i know...i am just a blinded, uneducated, misguided sheep who beleives everything the media tells me...

speaking of media...do you know what this would do for a jouranlist to uncover such a theory and prove it to be right...omg he would win every award possible and be paid mucho mucho money...but no he wont tell cus he is a puppet in Bushs army...

Donny...your best bet is to stay clear of people like this...they are the types who scream of free speach but stand at the Republican National Convention with bullhorns....they are genuinly unhappy people who beleive they can uncover things that no serious scholar cares to entertain...they are to be pitied.

I am done here.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Sysmagraphs or however you spell it showed no explosions before the collapse...case closed. And i do not care to discuss this anymore....no credibal person on this planet takes the 9.11 conspirqacy seriously...no real engineers have agreed with the explosion theory bringing down the towers, no politician has hinted at a conspiracy, Osama and Hussein have yet to speak up, Osame took the blame etc etc etc... Only theorists with strong hatred for themselves see something negative in every situation...next thing trancer-x will be saying is that Bush blew up the levies in New Orleans because he is working in tandem with the KKK to rid the south of blacks. But what do i know...i am just a blinded, uneducated, misguided sheep who beleives everything the media tells me... speaking of media...do you know what this would do for a jouranlist to uncover such a theory and prove it to be right...omg he would win every award possible and be paid mucho mucho money...but no he wont tell cus he is a puppet in Bushs army... Donny...your best bet is to stay clear of people like this...they are the types who scream of free speach but stand at the Republican National Convention with bullhorns....they are genuinly unhappy people who beleive they can uncover things that no serious scholar cares to entertain...they are to be pitied. I am done here.

lol what happened to leaving it

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org

http://www.911truth.org

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Originally posted by seval lol what happened to leaving it

I had to comment to trancer-x....he is the most delusional person on this board....he would beleive his mother is part of a body snatching scheme originating from the planet Crazy Pants if he could find one web page that said so...he is the classic example of someone who beleive everything he reads in the internet...he is insane..and i do not mean insane in a facetious way...i mean insane, as in he should be commited or on serious medication...he proballey sits home each and every day sifting through evidence, meanwhile dismissing all evidence contrary to his beleif, to find one flaw in everything...he most likely has no friends and likes to sit in the dark....surely has disdain for everyone who doesnt agree with him and feels he is the most intellectual human being to walk this earth, apart from the quacks who post the web sites for him to uncover the "TRUTH"...his weekend nights consist of reading Chomsky and Zinn and writing letters to William Blum while watching the Discoveriy channels TRUE expose on Roswell, New Mexico..altering between that and the History channels proof that Lyndon Johnson had a part in the JFK assasination...he seldom leaves his house and when he does he looks at everyone as a sheep but keeps his head down because secrelty he wants to be wanted...yet he knows he can never find anyone as intellectual and unblinded as himself...so he will end up writing a book about all his conspiracies and how he found the truth but no one will buy it, exceot of course the other nuts who also know jsut where to look for their secret information...here i will give you a hint..it starts with www....he is a scarey individual and will probally post in repsonce to this that i am uneducated, have my head my ass, blinded and .or stupid...he predictable and will never truly be happy...regardless of what he tells you he is sad inside and very lonely...trancer will you be my Valentine?

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Originally posted by seval lol what happened to leaving it

Much like his idol Dubya, he's just another idiotic flip-flopper.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Much like his idol Dubya, he's just another idiotic flip-flopper.

Dont you mean your beloved "i voted for before i voted against" Kerry?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Dont you mean your beloved "i voted for before i voted against" Kerry?

Not at all, I was talking about the bigger flip-flopper, the one who does it on a regular basis and especially in the wake of National emergencies.

Kerry and Bush are distant relatives and they're BOTH scum.

trancer x - tiesto14 its a debabte about 911, not handbags at 10 paces haha, i think a good post in TA would be slag fest where you just go in and slag the shit out of everyone regardless of conspiricy theorys or ego's, cant you just kiss and make up its valentines day ffs

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Originally posted by seval trancer x - tiesto14 its a debabte about 911, not handbags at 10 paces haha, i think a good post in TA would be slag fest where you just go in and slag the shit out of everyone regardless of conspiricy theorys or ego's, cant you just kiss and make up its valentines day ffs

See i LIKE people like you....granted we disagree on some political matters you still are upbeat, funny and an all around cool person regardless if we disagree or not. You are unlike most people on here who go on and on about how anyone who disagrees with you is stupid or blinded....stay cool man!

TrancerX
I read that link about the building's being cracked and I just couldn't help but think as I read that it was written as a creative piece. Then I got to this bit:

William spent hours testifying before the 9-11 Commission behind closed doors. His testimony as an eye witness does not appear anywhere in the 576 page report. But after all, Bush told us who did it, so why bother to examine the evidence or talk with the witnesses. The only agency that was allowed to investigate the circumstances of the event was FEMA.


Now, if someone appeares as a witness, then surely they would HAVE to be in the report. I just can't imagine the report by the 9/11 commision would be edited to suit the govt. Isn''t the commision made up from both democrats and republicans?

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Originally posted by skot_e Making the assumption there were actual explosions, could it be that there was perhaps something combustible in the buildings that may have caused the explosions, that weren't bombs? What I can't think of.... Just asking.

There was the parking garage but after the '93 explosion it was turned into an employees only lot I believe.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 See i LIKE people like you....granted we disagree on some political matters you still are upbeat, funny and an all around cool person regardless if we disagree or not. You are unlike most people on here who go on and on about how anyone who disagrees with you is stupid or blinded....

Exactly.

Trancer resorts to profantiy like a child who can't win his bad argument.

I suspect we're not the first to tell him that he's not right in the head. There must be some relative some where who's ALWAYS told him this (mom, dad...or maybe even everyone he meets in the real world, etc.,lol). So we're likely touching a chord here with him when we call him "nuts".

Still, no excuse to be hauling of with the profanity.

thats rich coming from you donny. at least t-x is wonderfully articulate with his insults, which are hardly profane.

if you want profane you should hear what i did to PKCs mum

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Originally posted by tathi if you want profane you should hear what i did to PKCs mum

i wouldnt be proud of begging my mum for a hot lunch

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats rich coming from you donny. at least t-x is wonderfully articulate with his insults, which are hardly profane.

I don't use profanity unless it's brought out on me first, and usually even then, it takes a lot of it.

My insults are not profane, you obviously don't read well. I'm WAY more "Articulate" than Trancer..and you for that matter.

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Originally posted by tathi if you want profane you should hear what i did to PKCs mum

So just like her son, is she always begging for it?

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Originally posted by donnybrasco I'm WAY more \"Articulate\" than Trancer..and you for that matter.

thats a negative on both counts. but thanks for playing!!

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