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Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-22-2009 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
i'd rather saw my dick off with a rusty butter knife connected to a tesla coil than watch this movie


Yeah, but you did that like twice last week, so just how are we supposed to interpret that?


Posted by ZeJayMan on Mar-23-2009 00:03:

none of this is relevant. this should have been given to a director with a shred of talent, it could have been fucking outrageously good.

the film was a 5/10, superbly average affair.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Mar-23-2009 00:04:

Let's look at the resume and play "SPOT THE GOOD!"

# Watchmen (2009)
... aka Watchmen: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
# 300 (2006)
... aka 300: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
# The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed (2004) (V)
# Dawn of the Dead (2004)
... aka Arm�e des morts, L' (France)
... aka Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead (USA: long title)
# Morrissey: �Oye Esteban! (2000) (V) (video "Tomorrow")


Posted by chach on Mar-23-2009 00:14:

Idk I kinda liked "Oye Esteban"


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-23-2009 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Yeah, but you did that like twice last week, so just how are we supposed to interpret that?


now you know, this is what it feels like


Posted by wotyzoid on Mar-23-2009 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
none of this is relevant. this should have been given to a director with a shred of talent, it could have been fucking outrageously good.

the film was a 5/10, superbly average affair.


I'll wait until I watch to confirm, but I sort of feel, after reading the novel, that I kind of agree with Alan Moore when he said it is "inherently unfilmable". The plot is just too complex and deep and hectic to be 100% successfully brought to film unharmed by the typical Hollywood move to make it mass friendly.

I think this is the same case as V for Vendetta; although the movie was wonderful it didn't do the novel as much justice as some people hoped. And although I haven't seen the movie yet I am skeptical to see for myself if it really is about the director and not the difficulty of translating the deepness and brilliance of the written novel to Hollywood script paper.


Posted by NeoPhono on Mar-23-2009 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
I'll wait until I watch to confirm, but I sort of feel, after reading the novel, that I kind of agree with Alan Moore when he said it is "inherently unfilmable". The plot is just too complex and deep and hectic to be 100% successfully brought to film unharmed by the typical Hollywood move to make it mass friendly.

I think this is the same case as V for Vendetta; although the movie was wonderful it didn't do the novel as much justice as some people hoped. And although I haven't seen the movie yet I am skeptical to see for myself if it really is about the director and not the difficulty of translating the deepness and brilliance of the written novel to Hollywood script paper.


I think Watchmen is filmable but not in a Hollywood-length big screen format. It would make a good miniseries ala "Band of Brothers" where you aren't so constrained by time. I think the biggest thing the movie lacked was the ability to really explore the characters and messages that the novel was able to.

My biggest fear is that someday someone will want to make a movie of "Sandman." That IMHO is the greatest graphic novel of all time in creating a mood and "experience" and it would be absolute shit if anyone ever tried to make it into a motion picture. To me, Sandman is the ultimate unfilmable comic.


Posted by wotyzoid on Mar-23-2009 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
I think Watchmen is filmable but not in a Hollywood-length big screen format. It would make a good miniseries ala "Band of Brothers" where you aren't so constrained by time. I think the biggest thing the movie lacked was the ability to really explore the characters and messages that the novel was able to.


Yes! I think that would have been a much better alternative.


Posted by Renzo on Mar-23-2009 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
My biggest fear is that someday someone will want to make a movie of "Sandman." That IMHO is the greatest graphic novel of all time in creating a mood and "experience" and it would be absolute shit if anyone ever tried to make it into a motion picture. To me, Sandman is the ultimate unfilmable comic.


I heard once Keanu Reeves was set to star in it. But maybe it was just rumors.

Though I did find this:





Posted by King_Mack on Mar-23-2009 20:19:

dunno if this was posted before, but I found this pretty funny hehe

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/Med...The_Video_Game/


Posted by 8Wonders on Mar-23-2009 22:05:

Probably one of the worst movies I've seen in a long time. It gives Daredevil a run for its money for 'best' comic adaptation


Posted by Ivand on Mar-25-2009 04:49:

So, i got to see it today, and as a movie it was at most a little above average. As a statement, a deconstruction of the super-hero story, i kind of know where it wanted to get, but it fell quite short too.


The opening sequence, awesome, AWESOME. But after that.. first they failed to capture the sense of urgency and ARMAGEDDON that those days had, that was what made the graphic novel move forward. Second, they needed to vilify/soften Veidt's character a bit more for my to care about what he did, in the end he just did it and I didnt care, it could've been a russian conspiracy for all i care (Also i hope theres an explanation to Bubastis in the director's cut)


Posted by Cloudburst on Mar-28-2009 01:43:

Never heard of watchmen before, didn't watch trailers.

I really liked the movie, it was weird, but I liked it. Can't say why.

(PS. I thought No Country For Old Men was awesome too)


Posted by wotyzoid on Mar-28-2009 16:35:

Ok so I went yesterday and I think everything I felt about the movie has been said already. I couldn't help but being disappointed after having read the brilliance of the novel, no matter much I tried to like it. What got to me the most was the acting, Veidt and Silk Spektre I in particular. It was weak and I couldn't help but going in expecting something else.


Posted by pmoisse on Apr-12-2009 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Cloudburst
Never heard of watchmen before, didn't watch trailers.

I really liked the movie, it was weird, but I liked it. Can't say why.



Agreed. I had no idea what to expect and was pleasantly suprised by an interesting and different film. The character development was done really well. Enough detail, but not at all boring.

And Malin Akerman is hot.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-12-2009 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand
Second, they needed to vilify/soften Veidt's character a bit more for my to care about what he did, in the end he just did it and I didnt care





Yeah they really didn't go far enough in depth with his character...seeing the full scope of his character/his past is so integral to understanding his motives and actions(DUH). It left the ending kinda weak, imo. In the book it was just like "Wow, that's fucked up." and really made you think. Here it was just like blue-balls...or losing interest altogether and rolling over and sleeping in the wet spot. It didn't strike the same moral chord.

I also agree that it lacked the same sense of urgency the novel had...and it's too bad that so much of these characters' history is explained in newspaper clippings, journals, etc., in the book. Can't really see how they would have translated that correctly without taking up even more time.

There are just so many concurrent things going on in the book, and I can see why it's hard to get all those layers out properly.


That aside, I honestly thought they did a great job with this movie...as best they could do, with so much material, I suppose. For the most part all the important shit was there.

I dunno...it's hard to say, having read the book. All the gaps were filled in by what I already knew. I can see how anyone who hasn't read it would be like WTF CRAP. The subtleties are definitely lost on the big screen.


That sex scene was hot as fuck though (Leonard Cohen as background music?? FUCK YEAH). And Patrick Wilson fucking nailed Night Owl.


Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-13-2009 00:39:

I also hated that rorschach killed the guy with a cleaver instead of burning him like in the novel. And that part where he bites of the other kid's cheek as a kid was just too much.


Posted by raynbo on Apr-15-2009 19:08:

OK I'm officially confused. This novel you guys keep referring to, is it graphic or no? And who wrote it? I tried looking but found mostly comic stuff. Thanks.
I really enjoyed the movie having had no background on it but it makes more sense knowing its adaptation background.


Posted by bas on Apr-15-2009 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by raynbo
OK I'm officially confused. This novel you guys keep referring to, is it graphic or no? And who wrote it? I tried looking but found mostly comic stuff. Thanks.
I really enjoyed the movie having had no background on it but it makes more sense knowing its adaptation background.

Graphic novel written by Alan Moore.


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