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Posted by trance-ecj on Oct-23-2004 00:47:

I lost interest in Tiesto a long time ago so I don't plan on listening to this at all...but this talk of him nearly trainwrecking got me interested.

Which mix is it? I might listen to the stations copy to get a good laugh.


Posted by Abhay on Oct-24-2004 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by trance-ecj
I lost interest in Tiesto a long time ago so I don't plan on listening to this at all...but this talk of him nearly trainwrecking got me interested.

Which mix is it? I might listen to the stations copy to get a good laugh.



I"m not a producer (no money), so I'm not the authoritty on TWs...

WEll... Listen to the transition between Heroes and Breda 4Pm... that's kinda dodgy...

Then listen to Olympic flame and it's transittion to Lethal Industry...That's just poor....

I just think the guy could take a few tips from Sasha and Digweed.... BUt i think Tiesto is just to lazy to fix up these little technical points... He shoudl release an album just to remind everyone he can mix.... Anyone who's listened to Magik 1-3 will know he is capable of good mixing... but then again.... they're albums...:P I'm not into live sets as much anyhow....


Posted by Abhay on Oct-24-2004 14:43:

U know guys can obviously tell what Tiesto did can't u???....

Obviously the guy just grabbed all of his previous productions... He then just got rid of some parts (???Layers of sounds????), added some new bits, maybe cut it around a bit... and vola!.... new tracks... The rest he flogged off other albums

BUt hey.... he didn't have much time to make it... I forgive him....


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-24-2004 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
U know guys can obviously tell what Tiesto did can't u???....

Obviously the guy just grabbed all of his previous productions... He then just got rid of some parts (???Layers of sounds????), added some new bits, maybe cut it around a bit... and vola!.... new tracks... The rest he flogged off other albums

BUt hey.... he didn't have much time to make it... I forgive him....

So what? People do it all the time and nobody seems to care.

Some artist have been doing the same track for years.


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-24-2004 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
So what? People do it all the time and nobody seems to care.

Some artist have been doing the same track for years.



indeed... look at probspot and ozgur can but nobody gives a fuck about them.
And probspot and ozgur DO have time to release something new and refreshing. Tiesto hardly had any time for this album.


Posted by idoru on Oct-24-2004 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
indeed... look at probspot and ozgur can but nobody gives a fuck about them.
And probspot and ozgur DO have time to release something new and refreshing. Tiesto hardly had any time for this album.


Mm-hmm. People attack Tijs because hes number one. If he only made it to second or third (and still did TiC and the Olympics), he wouldn't be getting ragged on like this, or at least not as much. Everybody who hits number one will have to deal with this. It's a shame, because they do their best with the time that they have, but for many people, it's never enough.


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-24-2004 17:52:

I think this is better than Just Be, personally speaking...


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2004 01:28:

WEll...

I know personally I don't give a fuck what "NUMBER" a DJ is... If he's good I listen to him... It's quiete simple...

BUt u have to admit... most people out there (from my experience anyhow) who isn'aren't really into EDM just know one thing: Who the #1 is....

Then they go out and buy all the guys stuff... I think what bothers people is that Tiesto is so damn different. And certainly, if ur #1 u have that "AURA" around ur head... becasue so many more people listen to u, simply because they only know ur no.1. So expectations on the guy are a hell of a lot higher... I think that's kinda understandable.

Personally, I don't think he's all that good a representation of trance anymore... I've loved his music from like 1999-2003... but it's kinda dying out... maybe it's just my preferences changing. I think it's only the #1 3 times in a row think that's keeping him popular, mainly because of the people who don'aren't into EDM all that much just listen to him because all they know is that he's been #1 3 times in a row....

Take for example a TV show in AUstralia, that's for music... It's all EDM shit... Now, those guys don't have a god damned clue who good artists are. It's obvious when they describe Ferry Corsten as being a breakbeat artist. What's worse, is that Ferry Corsten appears on a breakbeat album by MOS featuring Australis's number #1 DJ, Kid Kenobe (anyone actually heard of him??? lol) , which was promoted on the show... so more people will buy it thinking, Ferry Corsten does breakbeat....

So basically, the retards never play anything half decent, ebcause they don't know shit about EDM. BUT! The minute a Tiesto Track comes out... IT"S ON THE SHOW! They GO ON AND ON ABOT WHAT A GREAT DJ HE IS and tell ya everything about him.... people watching the show are gonna go out and buy Tiesto shit... not knowing any better... and only buying his stuff, purely because he's #1.

I think when a DJ is in that statuss... everythign he makes had better be damned good, and nothing cheap...

but like i said before.... I forgive Tijs, because he does have more pressure, he someone who always tries to keep up with the latest style (probably not realising that HE IS the latest style), and because he had no fucking time to make Parade of The Atheletes...


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2004 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
indeed... look at probspot and ozgur can but nobody gives a fuck about them.
And probspot and ozgur DO have time to release something new and refreshing. Tiesto hardly had any time for this album.


Well, does the fact that I've never heard of either artist (and I'm sure this is the case for many other people) suggest that what u said, was LITERALLY TRUE????

It sux when they just make minor changes to old tracks man... I guess a littel bit is OK, but seriously, there has to be a limit doesn't there?


Posted by stamper on Oct-25-2004 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Well, does the fact that I've never heard of either artist (and I'm sure this is the case for many other people) suggest that what u said, was LITERALLY TRUE????

It sux when they just make minor changes to old tracks man... I guess a littel bit is OK, but seriously, there has to be a limit doesn't there?


Can you please explain which songs on the album are the same as previous work he has done?


Posted by idoru on Oct-25-2004 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Well, does the fact that I've never heard of either artist (and I'm sure this is the case for many other people) suggest that what u said, was LITERALLY TRUE????


Yes. Just because you haven't heard the songs, does not mean that they re-created it from old works.

Saying what you just said is like saying, "I've never heard of John Doe in South Africa, so I'm sure he doesn't exist."


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2004 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Yes. Just because you haven't heard the songs, does not mean that they re-created it from old works.

Saying what you just said is like saying, "I've never heard of John Doe in South Africa, so I'm sure he doesn't exist."


no no no...

Dude, I mean... are the guys u mentioned very popular? WERE they very popular?... if not... maybe it's because they just grab their old shit too much....


Posted by idoru on Oct-25-2004 04:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
no no no...

Dude, I mean... are the guys u mentioned very popular? WERE they very popular?... if not... maybe it's because they just grab their old shit too much....


Probspot and Ozgur? Yeah, they're very popular.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-25-2004 10:39:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Probspot and Ozgur? Yeah, they're very popular.

Not outside the "scene" (god, I hate that word) they're not.


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-25-2004 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Not outside the "scene" (god, I hate that word) they're not.


true.
But my point is that if you're number 1 you are getting bashed... Good or bad, that doesn't matter you'll get bashed anyway.


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-25-2004 13:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay

I think it's only the #1 3 times in a row think that's keeping him popular



Tiesto is voted number 1 2 times in a row, not 3.


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2004 14:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
Tiesto is voted number 1 2 times in a row, not 3.


U honestly recon he won't win this time again???

I think it's no question he'll win...


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2004 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
true.
But my point is that if you're number 1 you are getting bashed... Good or bad, that doesn't matter you'll get bashed anyway.


I still don't understand if those guys are popular or not...

ALl I'm trying to say is that the reason they're harrased so much is because they get so much damned spotlight/attention, whether they truly deserve it or not....


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-25-2004 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay

ALl I'm trying to say is that the reason they're harrased so much is because they get so much damned spotlight/attention, whether they truly deserve it or not....


that is EXACTLY what i was saying also


Posted by Abhay on Oct-27-2004 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
that is EXACTLY what i was saying also


(Whether or not they deserve teh extra spotlight)...


Posted by tubularbills on Nov-03-2004 05:35:

So i finally got this album. I should really stop buying music from amazon.com because it always seems like they get things a month later than everyone. oh well.

Anyways, I'm listening to it right now and it's decent. Heroes is pretty cool, and i'm enjoying that one. Just from a quick run through of everything, there are a few tracks that stick out because they sound good, and others that don't do it for me. we'll see in a few days how much this has grown on me.

question: is this Tiesto's first album that doesn't have lyrics on it? kind of surprised me.


Posted by Chewporka on Nov-03-2004 06:13:

oh man I am gonna have to get a copy of this.


Posted by drpeer_holland on Nov-03-2004 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
question: is this Tiesto's first album that doesn't have lyrics on it? kind of surprised me.


Yes i think, but he was not allowed to use any vocals on this cd, because of the fact, that the vocals can be anticipated differenty in other countries...


Posted by Abhay on Nov-04-2004 04:00:

Shame / Disagreement

quote:
Originally posted by drpeer_holland
Yes i think, but he was not allowed to use any vocals on this cd, because of the fact, that the vocals can be anticipated differenty in other countries...


That's the biggest load of horseshit that the olympic commitee could've come up with... They obviously bought into the stupid fucking thinking that lyrics in EDM would be about sex and drugs...

Why the fuck was Bjork able to use her lyrics then? I mean fuck... her lyrics could easily have been considered by many people to be very much disgusting....

"Your sweat is salty, I am why"...

I mean.... THAT'S likely to be ANTICIPATED WRONG...

FUCK the IOC wankers, they could've atleast just been honest and said we're not risking it with ur genre.... it's good enough just to be able to play trance, but don't BUllshit to us about ur decisions....


Posted by idoru on Nov-04-2004 04:51:

Settle down, that's not the reason. Think about it...

He was playing all of these tunes during the parade of the athletes. He also dropped dub mixes of tunes like Walking on Clouds at the event itself. Why? Simple; as the athletes walked out, the stadium announcer would speak in the arena, announcing their arrival in two or three different languages. It'd be a bit odd to hear that during a vocal tune, isn't it?


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