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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch of course .. the yankee bandwagon is starting to churn forward now .. .. especially with the way sheff and a-rod are hitting, the yankees could go somewhere .. and why is kevin brown still their starting pitcher ?? .. .. the yankees should be smart, and use him as their setup man, because the more starts he gets, the more he is going to be burnt, which means his confidence is going down lower ..

So they should start Tim Redding and Darrell May instead? That's why...

They have no other choice!!! They desperately need starting pitching now.

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Originally posted by jonze234 i saw the second "incident" on tv last night and i was thinking to myself, why was that guy even videotaping him getting booked? rogers turned himself in, its not like they put out a man-hunt for the guy. i think the guy was trying to get him to do something.

Notoriety i suppose. The media love to delve on potential powederkegs. "hey this guy explodes whenever he sees a camera! lets follow his arraignment and court dates and see if he shoves someone else!"

but you gotta love the exchange:

Rogers "You're getting really close, you know that? Do You hear me?"

(few seconds later) Rogers " You must be pretty proud of yourself"

Cameraguy "Its just my job, Kenny"

Rogers "Yeah. Your Job. That's just your excuse"


seriously whats up with his adversion to cameramen, i mean yeah i wouldnt like camera all up in my face and shit, but if they're far away and not bothering me, its not like he has to take immediate offense to it. Your a ballplayer in the major leagues, Kenny. Grow up and act like it. You're in the major league spotlight.

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Originally posted by Mebot Your a ballplayer in the major leagues, Kenny. Grow up and act like it. You're in the major league spotlight.

it's not that kenny rogers is young .. he's 40, going to turn 41 in november .. ..

why doesn't he take some ethics lessons from roger clemens .. oh wait .. how many more rings does clemens have, compared to rogers ?? case closed.

i wonder who needs to grow up more.. bonds or rogers ?? i am still going to be rough on bonds until he either confesses that he did the illegal substances, or he calls it quits to rid of the giants fans misery from awaiting his return .. it's not like the fans are really hoping for his return anyways ..

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch it's not that kenny rogers is young .. he's 40, going to turn 41 in november .. ..

All the more reason that there is no excuse for this kind of behavior. You'd figure he'd know better by now...or at least not let him faze him as much.

Kenny Rogers is an idiot

allright so rumor is the Marlins wanna trade Lowell
I mean I know he's struggling, but I think we should be a little more patent on him, I mean he was like in the top 5 3rd baseman the past couple of years.Alot of stars have had a bad year.
And get this, they wanna trade him for...Larry Bigbie! gosh wtf, I dunno much about him , maybe mebot cause he used to be a orioles fan, but his numbers are not all that, they also might package him with Burnett, we might also get Jorge Julio.Burnett has been the guy that is without a doubt most likely to leave, but letting go of Lowell is stupid IMO.

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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI Kenny Rogers is an idiot allright so rumor is the Marlins wanna trade Lowell I mean I know he's struggling, but I think we should be a little more patent on him, I mean he was like in the top 5 3rd baseman the past couple of years.Alot of stars have had a bad year. And get this, they wanna trade him for...Larry Bigbie! gosh wtf, I dunno much about him , maybe mebot cause he used to be a orioles fan, but his numbers are not all that, they also might package him with Burnett, we might also get Jorge Julio.Burnett has been the guy that is without a doubt most likely to leave, but letting go of Lowell is stupid IMO.

Perhaps they know something about Lowell and ... le juice?

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch of course .. the yankee bandwagon is starting to churn forward now .. ..

I don't think it ever really stopped. At least, I knew it was way too early unlike these retarded Red Sox radio and newspaper analysts.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Perhaps they know something about Lowell and ... le juice?

was he on the same offseason program as bret boone?

Say it ain't Sosa?

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Perhaps they know something about Lowell and ... le juice?

lol your the 3rd person to tell me that today.

eh who knows

rumors

Responding to a request by the Minnesota Twins to expand a potential trade, the Red Sox are in discussions to acquire starting pitcher Joe Mays and reliever J.C. Romero for third baseman Bill Mueller and first baseman Kevin Millar, league sources said yesterday. According to sources, the Twins aren't as willing to part with Mays as they are Kyle Lohse.

According to a club source, the Orioles have also contacted the Los Angeles Dodgers about Jeff Weaver and the San Francisco Giants about their ace, Jason Schmidt. The source said the club has discussed bringing up 24-year-old right-hander John Maine, who is 6-7 with a 4.25 ERA for Triple-A Ottawa, and sending the struggling Sidney Ponson to the bullpen.

info taken from www.benmaller.com

pnc park and jacobs field are two really nice ballparks...i highly recommend that you hit both

can anyone explain the logic behind the orioles trading away ponson? i thought that club was looking to get pitching. maybe they have something up their sleeves but from what im reading the deal for burnett is dead. maybe they're going to ship nevin to florida in a deal for aj and lowell.

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Responding to a request by the Minnesota Twins to expand a potential trade, the Red Sox are in discussions to acquire starting pitcher Joe Mays and reliever J.C. Romero for third baseman Bill Mueller and first baseman Kevin Millar, league sources said yesterday. According to sources, the Twins aren't as willing to part with Mays as they are Kyle Lohse.

WOW!

That's just surprising because the thought that some team would actually take Millar is ludicrous... I pray Theo trades Millar... he is so awful... PLEASE TAKE that bum...

I don't know why the O's traded Ponson... but I'm an idiot... and I always take NAMES over talent... so I tend to think Nevin might hit like he did a few years ago... but probably not... so I don't know why they got rid of Ponson... kind of sucks, because Sidney had to endure all those shitty years of losing in Baltimore... then he's the first to go... that sucks...

Perhaps because Ponson's part of the problem, not the solution. ERA of 5.91 and a WHIP of 1.70. That's dreadful! The guy is a big fat tub of goo and has sucked for the last two years. Last year he had an ERA of 5.30 with a WHIP of 1.55. That's bad for anyone.

And they say that they would have to get rid of Ponson's salary so they can acquire some more later in a trade (like for Burnett). I think it's a spin move, trade him to free up salary to get someone else.

Mark Redman is a possibility I read somewhere too.

Just like the Yankees, when does Kevin Brown stop being an answer and becomes part of the problem? His ERA is 6.50 with a WHIP of 1.72. Tough to even keep the Yankees in the ballgame at those numbers. When do you give up on these guys performing?

pics from my baseball park trip this weekend

saturday
pnc park, pittsburgh PA


sunday
jacbos field, cleveland, OH

Nevin dosnt want to be traded so that deal is off, so its back to baltimore wanting Lowell and Burnett
that pic of PNC Park is really nice

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Originally posted by Member of X Just like the Yankees, when does Kevin Brown stop being an answer and becomes part of the problem? His ERA is 6.50 with a WHIP of 1.72. Tough to even keep the Yankees in the ballgame at those numbers. When do you give up on these guys performing?

you cant give up on the bionic arm. brown has had so many surgeries that hes like the bionic man. kerry wood is on pace to break his record.

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Originally posted by verndogs pics from my baseball park trip this weekend

those are great pics. it must be nice to look out over the outfield bleachers and see the city. i heard that ESPN rated PNC the best stadium in the league last year, now i see why. at comiskey (or US Cellular as it says on the outside now) all we have to look at is the ghetto. they put up this kids area in left field to prevent people from seeing it.

Somebody please stop those streaking Athletics and AstrosZ!!!!!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Somebody please stop those streaking Athletics and AstrosZ!!!!!

all you have to do is kill rich harden, barry zito, and nick swisher .. anyways, the a's did an awesome job by picking up jay payton from the red sox .. great move .. the yankees could have picked him up to fill the cf spot obviously bernie williams seems not to be filling ..

and for the astros, well just take away berkman and ensberg's juices, then you have a minor league team ..

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch all you have to do is kill rich harden, barry zito, and nick swisher .. anyways, the a's did an awesome job by picking up jay payton from the red sox .. great move .. the yankees could have picked him up to fill the cf spot obviously bernie williams seems not to be filling .. and for the astros, well just take away berkman and ensberg's juices, then you have a minor league team ..

I don't think the Red Sox would trade with the Yankees in the heat of pennant race for anybody. Or if ever for that matter. Only perhaps if Oakland was willing to spin him around to NY. But Billy Beane isn't enamored with the Yankees and rarely wants to trade anybody to them. Especially since they are competing for the wild card as well at the moment.

Yanks need pitching and should just put Bubba Crosby in CF to spell Bernie. Don't trade minor league talent for a guy that doesn't upgrade the area that much. Like Randy Winn.... no thanks!

Most overpaid players in baseball according to ESPN. Funny that Kevin Brown and Sidney Ponson are on this list. Ha ha Here's the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page...age=list/050727

10. Bernie Williams (OF, Yankees, $12,357,143)
Oh, Bernie. He's one of our favorite Yankees (and we don't have many). But he's hitting .240 with six HR and 37 RBI, which projects out to well off his lifetime marks in those categories, and he's one of the worst regular outfielders in the bigs, ranking 79th in win shares.

7. Sidney Ponson (SP, Orioles, $8,500,000)
Left-handed hitters must drool when they see they'll be facing Baltimore's 253-pound warrior. They're hitting .361 against him this year, with a nifty .928 OPS. If only that were the whole story. Ponson never has been much better than average, but in 2004 (11-15, 5.30 ERA) and again this year, he has been much worse. Hence the 7-9 record, and the 5.91 ERA. And in July, he has been just awful, losing four straight and piling up an 8.84 ERA for the month. That's trade bait only for a team that's starving.

3. Kevin Brown (SP, Yankees, $15,714,286)
The best thing that can be said about Brown is that he has been consistent this season. He has been hit hard at home, and he has been hit hard away. Both lefties and righties get on base at about a .390 clip against Brown, a dismal stat. Well, not as dismal as his 6.51 ERA -- almost double his lifetime mark.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch all you have to do is kill rich harden, barry zito, and nick swisher .. anyways, the a's did an awesome job by picking up jay payton from the red sox .. great move .. the yankees could have picked him up to fill the cf spot obviously bernie williams seems not to be filling .. and for the astros, well just take away berkman and ensberg's juices, then you have a minor league team ..

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Originally posted by Member of X Most overpaid players in baseball according to ESPN. Funny that Kevin Brown and Sidney Ponson are on this list. Ha ha Here's the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page...age=list/050727 10. Bernie Williams (OF, Yankees, $12,357,143) Oh, Bernie. He's one of our favorite Yankees (and we don't have many). But he's hitting .240 with six HR and 37 RBI, which projects out to well off his lifetime marks in those categories, and he's one of the worst regular outfielders in the bigs, ranking 79th in win shares. 7. Sidney Ponson (SP, Orioles, $8,500,000) Left-handed hitters must drool when they see they'll be facing Baltimore's 253-pound warrior. They're hitting .361 against him this year, with a nifty .928 OPS. If only that were the whole story. Ponson never has been much better than average, but in 2004 (11-15, 5.30 ERA) and again this year, he has been much worse. Hence the 7-9 record, and the 5.91 ERA. And in July, he has been just awful, losing four straight and piling up an 8.84 ERA for the month. That's trade bait only for a team that's starving. 3. Kevin Brown (SP, Yankees, $15,714,286) The best thing that can be said about Brown is that he has been consistent this season. He has been hit hard at home, and he has been hit hard away. Both lefties and righties get on base at about a .390 clip against Brown, a dismal stat. Well, not as dismal as his 6.51 ERA -- almost double his lifetime mark.

A contract is a contract, remember?

I agree Bernie is not producing like all Yankee fans want him too, but only two or three years ago, he was spanking 30 homers and 100 RBI no problem. When he signed his 6 (or was it 7) year deal, he was a "true" Yankee, a clutch hitter and a great fielder who definitely helped them win four world series. But that's what happens when you sign long term contracts...Bernie has declined very rapidly and Brown, ugh...don't even get me started on him.

That's why, as a GM, I'd be leery of signing guys to more than a 4 or 5 year deal these days. Obviously, people like Jeter and Arod are the exception but what if they got injured sometime? The team is fucked.

Overpaid this year? Hello Carlos Beltran.

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