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No cover up here, ignorant fuks please do not read.


Newly Released Memo: Government �Minders� at 9/11 Commission Interviews �Intimidated� Witnesses


A recently released 9/11 Commission memo highlights the role of government �minders� who accompanied witnesses interviewed by the commission. It was added to the National Archives� files at the start of the year and discovered there by History Commons contributor paxvector.

The memo, entitled �Executive Branch Minders� Intimidation of Witnesses,� complains that:

* Minders �answer[ed] questions directed at witnesses;�
* Minders acted as �monitors, reporting to their respective agencies on Commission staffs lines of inquiry and witnesses� verbatim responses.� The staff thought this �conveys to witnesses that their superiors will review their statements and may engage in retribution;� and
* Minders �positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves in a manner that we believe intimidates witnesses from giving full and candid responses to our questions.�

The memo was drafted by three staffers on the commission�s Team 2, which reviewed the overall structure of the US intelligence community. One of the drafters was Kevin Scheid, a senior staffer who led the team. His co-writers were Lorry Fenner, an air force intelligence officer, and lawyer Gordon Lederman. The complaint was sent to the commission�s counsels, Daniel Marcus and Steve Dunne, in October 2003, about halfway through the commission�s 19-month life.

The memo makes clear that the problems were not occurring only with witnesses talking to Team 2, but also in �other teams� interviews.� A hand-written note on a draft of the memo says, �not one agency or minder � also where we�ve sat in on other Teams� interviews.�

According to the memo, some minders merely policed prior agreements between the commission and their parent agency about what the commission could ask witnesses, and others were simply there to make a list of documents the commission might want based on a witness� testimony. However, some minders saw their role differently.


The rest,

http://hcgroups.wordpress.com/2009/...0%99-witnesses/

The memo,

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13279605/...on-of-Witnesses

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Originally posted by culorut The only reason you will ever need is the last administration. Tell me do you believe they are angels or are you ignorant as fuk to all the other blatantly obvious war crimes they have committed in the last decade or so?

Tell me, why are you talking about angels? No wonder everybody thinks you'r a fucktard. Just because the last administration tortured, spied, and ruined the economy, does not substantiate the accusation that you have made that they'v committed essentially treason. You accuse them of treason, FUCKING PROVE YOU IDIOT...

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Originally posted by culorut It's "cretino" for starters (Italian). And at least use a web translator, the internet is not that hard to figure out nowadays jerk off.

PKC's got a good one. Cretinrot. I think I'll stick to that one...

so now everyone is a dumb fuk? bc we don't believe in these theories of grand conspiracies :S c'mon dude- I don't think we are the ones that need to open our eyes..

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Just because the last administration tortured, spied, and ruined the economy, does not substantiate the accusation that you have made that they'v committed essentially treason.

And there you have it. Blind as a fuking bat.

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Originally posted by yukii so now everyone is a dumb fuk? bc we don't believe in these theories of grand conspiracies :S c'mon dude- I don't think we are the ones that need to open our eyes..

No I am speaking to Krypton and the usual suspect trolls in the thread.

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Originally posted by culorut And there you have it. Blind as a fuking bat.

that's it? lol, you'r a fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by culorut No I am speaking to Krypton and the usual suspect trolls in the thread.

No, you'r speaking to everyone who disagrees with your paranoid conspiracy theory.

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Originally posted by culorut And there you have it. Blind as a fuking bat.

Okay, so torture, spying, & the ruining the economy is now under the definition of Treason?

Wiki - Treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation.

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FUCKING PROVE YOU IDIOT...

Did you go to school? You are supposed to write perfect grammar here in this forum otherwise you are not to be taken seriously.

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Originally posted by culorut Did you go to school? You are supposed to write perfect grammar here in this forum otherwise you are not to be taken seriously.

ad hominem much?

I mean, I believe I would at least *consider* this theory if I just had some plausible real evidence in front of my nose, that's all.

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Treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation.

No offense yukii but why are you trying to defend war criminals. There were WMD's in Iraq I suppose?

A few hundred thousand deaths is a dam good enough reason with absolutely no evidence of WMD's.

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Originally posted by yukii ad hominem much?

I am playing the same game they do to me and others in here when not vouching for the official conspiracy theory. The thread is over 300 pages long and the bullshit ad hominem started from page 1 with these same assholes.

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Originally posted by culorut No offense yukii but why are you trying to defend war criminals. There were WMD's in Iraq I suppose? A few hundred thousand deaths is a dam good enough reason with absolutely no evidence of WMD's.

& no offense colorut, but now we're talking about Iraq & WMD?
I defend war criminals??

The same people who lied to you about WMD's in Iraq lied to you about 9/11.

Does it make a difference?

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Originally posted by culorut Did you go to school? You are supposed to write perfect grammar here in this forum otherwise you are not to be taken seriously.

Yea, I am in school? Are you? I have a habit of typing faster than I think. But once again, I ask you to prove their treason, and duly, you refuse. Perhaps you should go to law school and figure out what circumstantial evidence is?

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Originally posted by culorut The same people who lied to you about WMD's in Iraq lied to you about 9/11. Does it make a difference?

It does make a difference. Why? Because one happened & the other one didn't. I mean, if they lied about 9/11- what reasons would they have? I'd like for you to just jot down some bullets on that for me please, & who would 'they' be- Bush Admin. secretly working with Islamic radicals?

Like I said, one happened- & one didn't.

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Originally posted by culorut I am playing the same game they do to me and others in here when not vouching for the official conspiracy theory. The thread is over 300 pages long and the bullshit ad hominem started from page 1 with these same assholes.

LOL, what are we, or I supposed to do when you call us/me, blind, stupid, ignorant, sheep, sheeple, etc. Sit back and take it? Stop and I stop. But don't bitch when you get a taste of your own medicine...

Look for example I just posted what a farce the 9/11 commission was again and not one person has/will reply on the matter because they cannot. There is nothing to discuss because it is an obvious scam. Why debate over it when you can just fukin troll in the thread instead and ignore the reality of it.

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Originally posted by culorut No cover up here, ignorant fuks please do not read. Newly Released Memo: Government �Minders� at 9/11 Commission Interviews �Intimidated� Witnesses A recently released 9/11 Commission memo highlights the role of government �minders� who accompanied witnesses interviewed by the commission. It was added to the National Archives� files at the start of the year and discovered there by History Commons contributor paxvector. The memo, entitled �Executive Branch Minders� Intimidation of Witnesses,� complains that: * Minders �answer[ed] questions directed at witnesses;� * Minders acted as �monitors, reporting to their respective agencies on Commission staffs lines of inquiry and witnesses� verbatim responses.� The staff thought this �conveys to witnesses that their superiors will review their statements and may engage in retribution;� and * Minders �positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves in a manner that we believe intimidates witnesses from giving full and candid responses to our questions.� The memo was drafted by three staffers on the commission�s Team 2, which reviewed the overall structure of the US intelligence community. One of the drafters was Kevin Scheid, a senior staffer who led the team. His co-writers were Lorry Fenner, an air force intelligence officer, and lawyer Gordon Lederman. The complaint was sent to the commission�s counsels, Daniel Marcus and Steve Dunne, in October 2003, about halfway through the commission�s 19-month life. The memo makes clear that the problems were not occurring only with witnesses talking to Team 2, but also in �other teams� interviews.� A hand-written note on a draft of the memo says, �not one agency or minder � also where we�ve sat in on other Teams� interviews.� According to the memo, some minders merely policed prior agreements between the commission and their parent agency about what the commission could ask witnesses, and others were simply there to make a list of documents the commission might want based on a witness� testimony. However, some minders saw their role differently. The rest, http://hcgroups.wordpress.com/2009/...0%99-witnesses/ The memo, http://www.scribd.com/doc/13279605/...on-of-Witnesses

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Originally posted by culorut The same people who lied to you about WMD's in Iraq lied to you about 9/11. Does it make a difference?

Difference, the lies about Iraq WERE PROVEN! The "lies" about 9/11 ARE NOT PROVEN.

Okay, no more name-calling from either side- sheep, dumb fuk, igorant, etc, from either side cos no one deserves it no matter how frustrated you might be.

Just raw evidence please.

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL, what are we, or I supposed to do when you call us/me, blind, stupid, ignorant, sheep, sheeple, etc. Sit back and take it? Stop and I stop. But don't bitch when you get a taste of your own medicine...

I am telling someone else that I was just playing your retarded game. I do not stop when you and others continue to do so. Good luck if you have not noticed.

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Originally posted by culorut Look for example I just posted what a farce the 9/11 commission was again and not one person has/will reply on the matter because they cannot. There is nothing to discuss because it is an obvious scam. Why debate over it when you can just fukin troll in the thread instead and ignore the reality of it.

No one is going to reply to your constant copy and pasting. Are you capable of thinking for youself or do you always need to resort to copy and pasting other people's text? Guess what? The author is not here to respond to any criticism we have. So what the fuck is the point? You didn't write that.

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Originally posted by culorut I am telling someone else that I was just playing your retarded game. I do not stop when you and others continue to do so. Good luck if you have not noticed.

Well then, don't bitch when you get a taste of your own medicine...

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Difference, the lies about Iraq WERE PROVEN! The "lies" about 9/11 ARE NOT PROVEN.

Yeah and they are all in jail for committing treason right?

LOL, what a douche bag.

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