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Originally posted by culorut Yeah and they are all in jail for committing treason right? LOL, what a douche bag.

Lying about the reasons for invading Iraq are not treason you fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by Krypton Lying about the reasons for invading Iraq are not treason you fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by Krypton No one is going to reply to your constant copy and pasting. Are you capable of thinking for youself or do you always need to resort to copy and pasting other people's text? Guess what? The author is not here to respond to any criticism we have. So what the fuck is the point? You didn't write that.

I understand, you are too fukin stupid to read that the 9/11 commission was hindered from both sides. The questions asked were monitored and the answers given where planned out.

Bush and Cheney would not even testify alone. They had to be in each others presence.

And we all know just how honest of a man Cheney is especially while running Halliburton and making billions from the war on terror/WMD's in IRAQ.

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Lying about the reasons for invading Iraq are not treason you fucking idiot.

Really? how about if this same individual runs a military company and it is in his best interest to go to war (money) while using the innocent people of his own nation to do the dirty work?

Yeah your fukin right on that one you fukin tool.

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Originally posted by culorut I understand, you are too fukin stupid to read that the 9/11 commission was hindered from both sides. The questions asked were monitored and the answers given where planned out. Bush and Cheney would not even testify alone. They had to be in each others presence. And we all know just how honest of a man Cheney is especially while running Halliburton and making billions from the war on terror/WMD's in IRAQ.

No I don't answer to plagiarized material. Learn to construct your own thoughts before copy and pasting others.

By the way, I'm all for an independent 911 commission.

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Originally posted by culorut Really? how about if this same individual runs a military company and it is in his best interest to go to war (money) while using the innocent people of his own nation to do the dirty work?

That is not "aiding and abetting the enemy". Do you know what treason is? You'r accusing our government of treason. You have yet to prove it. In fact, you think don't even know what treason is!

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Originally posted by Krypton No I don't answer to plagiarized material. Learn to construct your own thoughts before copy and pasting others. By the way, I'm all for an independent 911 commission.

I can see the ignorance unfolding once again. You choose to see what you want to see. If you cannot read and decipher what my latest post means whether it was c/p from another website does not mean it is not true. Nor does it take away from the fact that the 9/11 commission was an absolute scam.

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Originally posted by culorut I can see the ignorance unfolding once again. You choose to see what you want to see. If you cannot read and decipher what my latest post means whether it was c/p from another website does not mean it is not true. Nor does it take away from the fact that the 9/11 commission was an absolute scam.

9/11 commission being a scam: explain.

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Originally posted by Krypton That is not "aiding and abetting the enemy". Do you know what treason is? You'r accusing our government of treason. You have yet to prove it. In fact, you think don't even know what treason is!

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation.

Tell us then how you believe that Cheney specifically is not a war criminal after knowing that he lied to go to war while profiteering and using his own people (thousands dead) to do the job.

Over nothing.

If that is not treason you need to check your head.

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Originally posted by yukii 9/11 commission being a scam: READ.

It's only been three times I have posted it.

http://hcgroups.wordpress.com/2009/...0%99-witnesses/

Bush Cheney Rumsfeld Powell- The Lies Uncovered

WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld

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Tell me you think those guys are not lying or covering up information about 9/11 so I can laugh at you again.

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Originally posted by culorut In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Tell us then how you believe that Cheney specifically is not a war criminal after knowing that he lied to go to war while profiteering and using his own people (thousands dead) to do the job. Over nothing. If that is not treason you need to check your head.

No, this is treason. Read Article III Section 3 of the United States Constitution...

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Now that you hopefully know what treason is as defined by the constitution, nobody in the Bush Administration, as of yet (bc you don't have any evidence), can be charged with treason. You'r more than welcome to work towards that goal or continue to pointlessly argue with me here over the internet.

lol, hurling Youtube videos at us again...

It's common knowledge the lies about Iraq. But you are accusing the government of treason. A completely different issue and crime. Stop linking the two.

The enemy is Cheney and no two witnesses is exactly the problem. You know yourself that they committed war crimes because of the bullshit WMD's in Iraq but I do not see you wanting to testify anytime soon.

It's not that black and white.

Okay, we get it- no one is arguing with you over the bullshit on Iraq & WMD- So because Cheney, Bush, etc, lied about WMD- now we have to believe they also lied about 9/11? Because they are prone to lying right? Because one accusation was true, doesn't make the other as well..

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Originally posted by culorut The enemy is Cheney and no two witnesses is exactly the problem. You know yourself that they committed war crimes because of the bullshit WMD's in Iraq but I do not see you wanting to testify anytime soon. It's not that black and white.

The enemy is Cheney? And I am a witness? Stop, please.

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Originally posted by yukii Okay, we get it- no one is arguing with you over the bullshit on Iraq & WMD- So because Cheney, Bush, etc, lied about WMD- now we have to believe they also lied about 9/11? Because they are prone to lying right? Because one accusation was true, doesn't make the other as well..

The problem you have with that argument is that their record is a little shaky to say the least. Billions made over war crimes (that can be prosecuted as treason) and yet you are still trying to convince yourself they were being honest about 9/11?

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Originally posted by Krypton The enemy is Cheney? And I am a witness? Stop, please.

Well apparently this same war criminal was running the country you live in. You agree that he lied and took the country to a bullshit war for his own agenda but yet you are on a message board defending the same people who lied about 9/11.

Who looks stupid now?

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Originally posted by culorut Well apparently this same war criminal was running the country you live in. You agree that he lied and took the country to a bullshit war for his own agenda but yet you are on a message board defending the same people who lied about 9/11.

Lol, first, you didn't know how treason is defined by our constitution. Second, you said Cheney was the enemy. Then, you said I am a witness to your accusation that Cheney is a traitor. Did I miss anything?

You want to charge him with war crimes? Fine, there is plenty of evidence for that. You want to charge him with treason? Go ahead. Your case will be dropped on the first day in court. You have no evidence of treason by anyone.

That's all I'm asking. After 8 years, I would have thought you truthers would have already brought an indictment of treason before a court. I'm not surprised that none of you have. Why don't you call up Alex Jones and ask him why?

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Who looks stupid now?

lol, you shouldn't be allowed to ask that question...

But that's my point- I don't assume & go straight to conclusions based on someone's shaky track record. I just want facts.
I could care less if he was a war criminal or was brought up by Mother Theresa- I just don't care or see how someone's past decisions have to influence whether an accusation is true or false. If that were the case, then I guess when I leave my house I can't trust any one! Because we've all said a lie at one point of our lives. It's just dumb logic.

Plus, I have no reason to defend Bush, Cheney, or any of those low lifes because I don't like them in the first place. So we're not defending anyone and looking ignorant because we defend war criminals. We just don't agree with 9/11 having been a conspiracy.

Are Bush and Cheney guilty of Treason?


US Constitution Article 3 Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

On Sept 20th, 2001, George W. Bush announced a "war on terror". "Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20010920-8.html

If we are engaged in a war on terrorist groups, then anyone who gives aid and comfort to terrorist groups is an enemy.

One major aim of terrorist groups is to get hold of weapons of mass destruction, in order to better terrorize a target population, such as the people of the US.

At the time Bush gave his speech, Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent, running an international ring of CIA assets, whose job was tracking WMD's through world black markets and preventing them from falling into the hands of terrorists. Two years later, her undercover identity was leaked to the press. Her outing did serious and lasting damage.
Several intelligence officials described the damage in terms of how long it would take for the agency to recover. According to their own assessment, the CIA would be impaired for up to "ten years" in its capacity to adequately monitor nuclear proliferation on the level of efficiency and accuracy it had prior to the White House leak of Plame Wilson's identity. http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed...ng_on_0213.html

In other words, the outing of Valerie Plame made it much easier for "every terrorist group of global reach" to acquire WMD's.

Thus, the outing of Valerie Plame gave aid and comfort to terrorist groups.

In other words, whoever "leaked" her undercover CIA identity to the press gave aid and comfort to terrorist groups, by making it easier for them to acquire WMD's.

OUTING VALERIE PLAME WAS AN ACT OF TREASON

"Scooter" Libby took the fall for the administration on the Plame outing, after being convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice by Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury. Bush suspended his sentence, so he did no jail time.

Now Scott McClelland, who was presidential spokesman at the time, tells us that both Bush and Cheney were directly involved into misleading him, Scott McClelland, into telling the press that no one in the White House did the outing of Plame.

In other words, Bush and Cheney are co-conspirators in the outing of Plame, or at least in the coverup and obstruction of justice. They have both committed treason.

If Congress does not impeach them immediately, then the whole Congress is guilty of treason.

When the 2008 election comes around, We the People should turn out of office any Representative who has not cosponsored HR 333/799- to impeach Cheney.

We're forming a New Broom Coalition, for a clean sweep of Congress. If you, or someone you know, is running for Congress on an impeachment platform, please contact us through our website: http://sances.info/newbroom/

http://www.opednews.com/articles/op...and_cheney_.htm

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Originally posted by culorut Are Bush and Cheney guilty of Treason? http://www.opednews.com/articles/op...and_cheney_.htm

Valerie Plame is a completely different issue. I thought we were talking about your 911 conspiracy theory. Now you want to change the subject? You are accusing the government of orchestrating a treasonous terrorist act. Don't change the subject.

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Because we've all said a lie at one point of our lives.

Their lies lead to their own people being killed for no reason other than profit and control. I was not talking about the white lies everyone makes at some point in their lives. "Serious" enough to be tried as treason.

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We just don't agree with 9/11 having been a conspiracy.

Good I am all for it, debate the facts like the 9/11 commission post I just made about it being a scam then. It's pretty undeniable considering the vice chairman of the same board said it was also.

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