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They should have that 'no-guaranteed contracts' rule like in NFL. That way the players will strive for the better, otherwise they get signed to huge contracts and do nothing.

i heard that the yankees have picked up hideo nomo from waivers .. ..

i don't think the yankees have learned yet .. they haven't seen the effects of picking up washed up players .. first kevin brown, then al leiter, now hideo nomo ... who's next ?? bret saberhagen and frank tanana ?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium They should have that 'no-guaranteed contracts' rule like in NFL. That way the players will strive for the better, otherwise they get signed to huge contracts and do nothing.

yeah but I wouldn't say somebody like Bernie Williams or even Kevin Brown didn't deserve their contracts when they signed them. It's the length of the deal and the inability for teams to buy out players that's a problem. Bernie has only recently become a mediocre player (as much as it pains me to say that, I always loved Bernie) because his body won't allow him to do what he used to. He's 36 but hasn't aged as gracefully as others...same with Brown.

It's these guys who sign huge contracts (like Beltran and Beltre) who are really young guys, have one great year, then ink a 6 year deal. It's nuts, but there is a difference.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch i heard that the yankees have picked up hideo nomo from waivers .. .. i don't think the yankees have learned yet .. they haven't seen the effects of picking up washed up players .. first kevin brown, then al leiter, now hideo nomo ... who's next ?? bret saberhagen and frank tanana ?

it's either sign washed up veterans who may possibly rediscover their form or bring in absolute SHITE from the minors in the form of Redding, May, Franklin, etc.

What does everyone have against the Yankees making these deals? What are they supposed to do? Pavano, Wright and Wang (all in their 20s) have gone down to injury and the Yanks are STILL in playoff contention. They need arms FFS.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 it's either sign washed up veterans who may possibly rediscover their form or bring in absolute SHITE from the minors in the form of Redding, May, Franklin, etc. What does everyone have against the Yankees making these deals? What are they supposed to do? Pavano, Wright and Wang (all in their 20s) have gone down to injury and the Yanks are STILL in playoff contention. They need arms FFS.

Yup yup, totally agree.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 it's either sign washed up veterans who may possibly rediscover their form or bring in absolute SHITE from the minors in the form of Redding, May, Franklin, etc. What does everyone have against the Yankees making these deals? What are they supposed to do? Pavano, Wright and Wang (all in their 20s) have gone down to injury and the Yanks are STILL in playoff contention. They need arms FFS.

maybe you're right .. this may be a backlash from overpaying many players on the team, and not having enough money to do some kind of trade-money or pay extra for players coming into the team ..

but at least they can talk to other teams other than florida (burnett) for better pitching .. they can go for minor league prospects, thinking about their future, since they have many players 30+.

the yankees transactions as of late clearly states that they are thinking about the "present" rather than "the future" ..

do you blame them for thinking about the present?

Jeter is 31, Arod is 30, Matsui 31, Sheffield 36, Mussina 35, Rivera 35, RJ 41, etc. Their only starting player is Cano at 22. That's what happens when you form a core group of guys and build a team around them but still....they need to win now. The yanks will contend for the next few seasons but once guys like Jetes and Arod start reaching their mid 30s, it could be a really bad run in the Bronx for awhile.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 yeah but I wouldn't say somebody like Bernie Williams or even Kevin Brown didn't deserve their contracts when they signed them. It's the length of the deal and the inability for teams to buy out players that's a problem. Bernie has only recently become a mediocre player (as much as it pains me to say that, I always loved Bernie) because his body won't allow him to do what he used to. He's 36 but hasn't aged as gracefully as others...same with Brown. It's these guys who sign huge contracts (like Beltran and Beltre) who are really young guys, have one great year, then ink a 6 year deal. It's nuts, but there is a difference.

I see what you are seeing. Thats not my point, however. My point is, if the team signs the player for 6 years but then when his performance drops it SHOULD be able to end the contract, if it wishes. All fair ... That way the players will strive for their best, knowing they risk termination.

I read enough about buy-outs and players being lazy when it comes to improving performance ... stupid stupid stuff

I kinda like the new clause in the NHL CBA...if a player starts to suck, they can buy them out at 2/3 of the contract....sounds fair I think. Teams need to stay away from these 7-10 year deals. I think five should be the maximum.

Anyway, Manny wants a trade apparently. He can come to the Yankees as a DH any day.

back with news about the yankees and pitching again .. .

hahhahaha ..

the yankees get shaun chacin from colorado .. i guess he'll help them out .. right ?

the nationals are starting to really slide right now ..
they got swept by the braves the other day .. the nationals seem to worry more about teams outside their division instead of the ones inside .. not much easier, with the marlins coming up, and the braves again at atlanta ..

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch back with news about the yankees and pitching again .. . hahhahaha .. the yankees get shaun chacin from colorado .. i guess he'll help them out .. right ?

let's see how he does before you start writing him off. His ERA was slightly over 4.00 at Coors Field in Coloroda...and as we all know, the ball carries differently there because of the altitude difference. Plus he was playing on absolutely the crappiest team in the entire MLB with Single A calibre offence.

Man, that NL West is so weak - Padres (50-51) are leading it with a losing record by 2 GAMES ...

Realistically, Giants are like 45-57 or something like that, yet only 5 and 1/2 games back. With that record they are still in the hunt for the division ...

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Man, that NL West is so weak - Padres (50-51) are leading it with a losing record by 2 GAMES ... Realistically, Giants are like 45-57 or something like that, yet only 5 and 1/2 games back. With that record they are still in the hunt for the division ...

that's the luck of the draw sometimes. The NL and AL Easts are both tight and the AL West is going to be close too.

August and September are great months for baseball.

news just in ..

the giants trade two prospects to the mariners for randy winn .. seems the giants still think they can win the division, and barry bonds will come back to save the team .. hahahaha ...

and soriano's and ramirez's name has been popping up a lot for trade rumors .. we will see tomorrow ..


oh yeah .. and the yankees get another pitcher .. alan embree .. and chacon was solid today against the angels .. i can't judge the yankees pitching now .

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch news just in .. the giants trade two prospects to the mariners for randy winn .. seems the giants still think they can win the division, and barry bonds will come back to save the team .. hahahaha ... and soriano's and ramirez's name has been popping up a lot for trade rumors .. we will see tomorrow .. oh yeah .. and the yankees get another pitcher .. alan embree .. and chacon was solid today against the angels .. i can't judge the yankees pitching now .

Arizona is now in the tie for NL West division lead with a 52-55 record. NOW THAT'S TIGHT!!

other news ..

texas gets phil nevin .. .. don't understand there .. who can explain that ?

raffy palmeiro suspended 10 games for steroid use

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Originally posted by trunks1022 raffy palmeiro suspended 10 games for steroid use

i just saw that story on espn. looks like asterisks are going to be placed next to his stats.

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Originally posted by jonze234 i just saw that story on espn. looks like asterisks are going to be placed next to his stats.

let's try to guess how many asteriks he is going to have .. and how many before and after "certain circumstances" stats lines he is going to have ..

he is going to have "before and after the roids" .. "before and after he has taken his impotence pills" (i dont want to say viagra .. did he represent viagra .. not sure) .. before and after brady anderson's "so called roid" year .. hahhahaha ...

can anyone name any other stretches in his career ?

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch can anyone name any other stretches in his career ?

his gold glove in 1999

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch "before and after he has taken his impotence pills" (i dont want to say viagra .. did he represent viagra .. not sure)

"i take fielding practice
i take batting practice
i take viagra"

one of the best commercials ever

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Originally posted by verndogs his gold glove in 1999

the steriods gave him super vision and the reflexes of a jungle cat.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 raffy palmeiro suspended 10 games for steroid use

no way ...REALLY!!!!.....

no suprise there.....us guys my age were just raised watchin guy with roids, its no secret anymore of course...kinda sad huh...then again players before the 80s used to do alot of illegal (non steroids) shit too(mainly the pitchers , Gaylord perry cough...)
so when you think about it...baseball = *************** anyways

ima start calling it *ball

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Originally posted by jonze234 the steriods gave him super vision and the reflexes of a jungle cat.

for all 15 games he played at 1B that year

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