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Posted by Slylee on Sep-23-2008 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Just an FYI not all saleens have that much power.


S302 Saleen

Id say a CL65 AMG (V12 604hp)it heavy as shit though...so not faster but similar strength. But you can write off both of those cars if they are against a new ZR1.620hp, Its torque peak of 604 pound-feet comes at a low 3800 rpm.






Murci�lago LP640 : 640 Bhp at 8000 Rpm
Veyron retains the record-breaking 1001 hp
2000 Ferrari Enzo. Horsepower: 660 bhp @ 7800 rpm.
2008 Porsche Carrera GT 5.5-liter V10 612 horsepower

Dont let just horsepower numbers form your opinion though. Gearing and all around design can make a lesser hp car stomp the car with higher numbers. Like the porsche carrera GT would kill that saleen even though on paper the saleen might look better...its a pig. The exotics are made from carbon fiber and are alot lighter and agile.


yea i don't usually. the thing that influences my opinion the most is the size of the car immediately following the hp. porsche always comes to mind first...they are 2 wheel drive right? so the car is lighter i think.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-23-2008 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
they are 2 wheel drive right? so the car is lighter i think.
Porsche makes alot of cars... most of the 911 models are 4 wheel drive. The other models are all rwd


Posted by Slylee on Sep-23-2008 23:38:

the gt2 is definitely rwd. i sat in one at a porsche expo one time and the salesmen told me that about porsche.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-23-2008 23:40:

ya, i think the c4, targa and turbo are 4 wheel drive.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-23-2008 23:44:



god i love porsche. all of them. black cayenne turbo with/black rims & white leather interior w custom black trim on it? OH YEAUR


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-23-2008 23:47:

Turbo and cayenne are only awd, carrera gt gt2, gt3, boxter and cayman are only rwd. Everything else, take you'r pick.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-23-2008 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Turbo and cayenne are only awd, carrera gt gt2, gt3, boxter and cayman are only rwd. Everything else, take you'r pick.
c4 and targa are 4 wheel drive.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-23-2008 23:52:

the cayenne has like 380 hp which is pretty damn nice for an suv


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-23-2008 23:55:

500 on the turbo i think... i remember hearing on top gear its limited to 160 or something because the tires would burst becuase of the weight of the car.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-23-2008 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
c4 and targa are 4 wheel drive.


Sure they cant e bought as RWD? Always thought that they could, most 997s around here are RWD i was assuming that was the case with all models even the targas.


EDIT: 521 HP on the Turbo S Mad horsepower but also insane fuel consumption.

And if i had the money to buy a Cayenne (i dont and even if i did, i would rather buy an X5) i would as the guys at Techart to make it slightly less ugly and much more agressive


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-23-2008 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Sure they cant e bought as RWD? Always thought that they could, most 997s around here are RWD i was assuming that was the case with all models even the targas.
I think thats the c2.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Sep-24-2008 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
the gt2 is definitely rwd. i sat in one at a porsche expo one time and the salesmen told me that about porsche.

The GT2 is RWD because of the class that it competes in does not allow AWD.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
The GT2 is RWD because of the class that it competes in does not allow AWD.


how do you know that?


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
500 on the turbo i think... i remember hearing on top gear its limited to 160 or something because the tires would burst becuase of the weight of the car.


yea and add rims in the mix and you've got a tire life of about 3 months lol


Posted by gehzumteufel on Sep-24-2008 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
how do you know that?

GT2 Class in FIA GT racing is RWD only. They have a production version to meet homologation regulations.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
GT2 Class in FIA GT racing is RWD only. They have a production version to meet homologation regulations.



funny how those cars are actually made for shit like that and not just driving around w/ the top down thinking, "yea...i drive a porsche"


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-24-2008 00:13:

Well to be perfectly hones you can get the "Holly fuck im driving a Porsche" even in the cheapest boxter, a GT2 is basically an unforgiving race car which will kill you if you're not at the top of your game all the time while behind the wheel. And it will kill you, Porches are knows for taking out lousy drivers who have more money than brains. There is a reason why the first turbo was nicknamed "The Widowmaker"


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Well to be perfectly hones you can get the "Holly fuck im driving a Porsche" even in the cheapest boxter, a GT2 is basically an unforgiving race car which will kill you if you're not at the top of your game all the time while behind the wheel. And it will kill you, Porches are knows for taking out lousy drivers who have more money than brains. There is a reason why the first turbo was nicknamed "The Widowmaker"


it was?? lol that's great trivia thanks

i rode in a boxter before it was alright. they still don't make me give a 2nd glance. also rode in a carrera S.

i get confused w/ all the carrera models. like which is fastest and slowest, and other specs.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-24-2008 00:19:

The boxter.. the poor mans porsche. It is supposed to be a proper roadster but if you have one it just means you cant afford a 911


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
The boxter.. the poor mans porsche. It is supposed to be a proper roadster but if you have one it just means you cant afford a 911


it's the porsche that rich dudes buy the dumb wife lol or what the dumb ex wife gets w/ the divorce money.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-24-2008 00:30:

That can be true, but even new Boxters don't come that cheap and are quite useless as the primary car so if you can afford a boxter and another car for doing boring family stuff you are still quite well off.


And even porsche dealers get confused with the 911 range sometimes, so its quite understandable that everybody else gets confused too


Posted by Slylee on Sep-24-2008 00:32:

a lot of people who aren't really into cars or have any knowledge of them, don't realize how expensive the faster porsches are. i told a friend of mine one time that they get up to 180k for the gt2 + and he was like "WHAT? a porsche?" lol

and porsche is really big in south florida. i see some sick ones...and i mean SICK ones (custom paint, kits, etc... on GT2s) at least once a week driving around ft. lauderdale.


Posted by denys envy on Sep-24-2008 00:39:



perfectly happy with this little bitch.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-24-2008 00:42:

Custom kits on a GT2? I see that on the same level as using a really really big brush to paint a moustache on a Mona Lisa, with bright red paint no less. I can understand modifying cheaper, slower porches, but a gt2 has been hand crafted to perfection and the only thing that that car needs to shine at its brightest is a race track or an empty patch of curvy road during the night.

And porsches are one of my favourite cars, even if money was no object i would take a porsche over any other supercar with the only exception of a Ferrari, but that holds a very special place in my heart.


Posted by Fledz on Sep-24-2008 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Its just the grill. Its not even a US car. Looks better as the AUS commodore IMO. Im glad most just write them off as " another pontiac". In a few years I should be able to pick one up for cheap just like the GTO/monaro


Definitely. Why do they make the US versions so ugly?


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