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Posted by malek on Oct-15-2008 03:33:
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Originally posted by Nick Cenik
Fuck |
smell the coffee
Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-15-2008 04:42:
for my riding;
Thank fcuking gad Tim Jones didn't make it... I'm glad the community didn't forget how much of a dickwad he was as a mayor... what were the Liberals thinking? If Martha Hall Findlay stayed here, she would have my vote. Why in the hell did the Liberals pick such a loser candidate for Aurora-Newmarket?
I chose Conservative this time, as I am consistant with the last election, to vote for who the best person is for the job.
Posted by activate on Oct-15-2008 04:49:
what a pointless waste of money
Posted by Jer on Oct-15-2008 04:52:
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Originally posted by DigiNut
you know about neorhino.ca right? |
Ah, man - If this is the offshoot of the guys that wanted to dam up the St. Laurence to turn Montr�al into the Canadian Venice..
..they've got my vote.
Posted by Yohan on Oct-15-2008 04:58:
Interesting. Kitchener used to be a liberal stronghold but cons swept here. Pretty close race though. (And my vote actually made a difference lol)
Posted by Ania_xox on Oct-15-2008 05:12:
as elected minister of silly things, it very well should
Posted by malek on Oct-15-2008 05:21:
mini budget ahead?
tax cuts prease
Posted by Yohan on Oct-15-2008 05:30:
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Originally posted by malek
mini budget ahead?
tax cuts prease |
yes please!
Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-15-2008 05:34:
Here in Cambridge:
code:
Green Party Scott Cosman 4,261 8.3%
Conservative Gary Goodyear 24,883 48.7%
NDP-New Democratic Part Max Lombardi 10,018 19.6%
Liberal Gord Zeilstra 11,970 3.4%
Total votes 51,132
Posted by MarkT on Oct-15-2008 05:38:
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Originally posted by activate
what a pointless waste of money |
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat.
Posted by Yohan on Oct-15-2008 05:41:
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Originally posted by MarkT
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister
Posted by activate on Oct-15-2008 05:57:
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Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
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Dion is definitely gone, but i don't think it will be immediate. next spring of summer. I don't think they'll want to give the impression that they made the wrong choice in electing him as their leader.
Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-15-2008 12:29:
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Originally posted by Yohan
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister |
Green votes are merely ideological. Greens swept the high schools' trainerbra elections. They got a lot of great ideas, but so long someone else pays for them. Green dominated last election too. It's different when teens get out in the real world and their opinions change when they pay their own roof over their head.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-15-2008 13:03:
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Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
A change is needed and personally, I think Ignatieff is the right choice...although I wouldn't mind seeing Ken Dryden take a shot at it.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-15-2008 13:05:
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
Green votes are merely ideological. Greens swept the high schools' trainerbra elections. They got a lot of great ideas, but so long someone else pays for them. Green dominated last election too. It's different when teens get out in the real world and their opinions change when they pay their own roof over their head. |
one of the biggest problem for the green party is people under 30 don't normally vote.....and that is the core of their supporters.
Posted by MarkT on Oct-15-2008 17:25:
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Originally posted by Yohan
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister |
They can't be too disappoitned with 900,000 votes and 7% of the popular vote. That's incredible for a 'new' party and considering how many Greens probably did vote for someone else at the last minute.
Some pointed out that May was smart to run in a near-hopeless race against MacKay, and do well, rather than potentially lose to a lesser name somewhere else.
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Originally posted by activate
Dion is definitely gone, but i don't think it will be immediate. next spring of summer. I don't think they'll want to give the impression that they made the wrong choice in electing him as their leader. |
It will have to be a delicate move, you're right...but I think it will be earlier, for two reasons.
Firstly, the leadership review is in May, I believe (whatever convention takes place at that time). Secondly, if the Liberals are smart, they will move on this sooner, rather than later. They spent so much time deflecting criticism for being a lame-duck official opposition, they had far too little to 'fix' the party.
I bet Dion is pushed out before he steps down.
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
A change is needed and personally, I think Ignatieff is the right choice...although I wouldn't mind seeing Ken Dryden take a shot at it. |
Dryden is a very bright guy too...but has been rather quiet. At least his days tending net for the Canadiens might hold some sway with Quebec voters, LOL!
Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-15-2008 17:29:
it almost seems like some sort of weird grand plan that the public doesn't know anything about.
conspiracy!
Posted by Yohan on Oct-15-2008 17:32:
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Originally posted by MarkT
Some pointed out that May was smart to run in a near-hopeless race against MacKay, and do well, rather than potentially lose to a lesser name somewhere else.
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There must be some ridings where the Greens have strong support. (Vancouver/Toronto?) Putting their star candidate for running in one of those ridings surely would improve their chances to win a seat. (though May did pretty well against Mackay I thought)
Posted by Aleks_B on Oct-15-2008 17:34:
I'm pretty relieved at the results! The representation is not ideal at all but i had worse premonitions leading up the election, than what actually unfolded.
Posted by MarkT on Oct-15-2008 17:55:
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Originally posted by Yohan
There must be some ridings where the Greens have strong support. (Vancouver/Toronto?) Putting their star candidate for running in one of those ridings surely would improve their chances to win a seat. (though May did pretty well against Mackay I thought) |
yeah...I was thinking they'd come out of it with a seat or two, at least.
Still...it's a building phase. Her being a part of the leadership debates (and looking good) was a successful election for the party, period.
Duceppe and May should be congratulated...the other three leaders all failed to live up to expectations, IMHO.
Harper will be pleased with gaining seats, but the CPC made no such proportionate gain with the popular vote (about 2% gain).
Posted by Orko on Oct-15-2008 18:03:
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Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
Except that they are $2million in the hole.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...y/National/home
On a side note, I feel pretty ripped off that we just spent $300million to get rid of Dion. At least the libs and NDP won't be crying election every three weeks anymore.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-15-2008 18:08:
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Originally posted by MarkT
Dryden is a very bright guy too...but has been rather quiet. At least his days tending net for the Canadiens might hold some sway with Quebec voters, LOL! |
Honestly, I think he would have some sway in Quebec as he is a recognizable figure face in Quebec and Ontario...if not all of Canada. He is very well spoken and he now has some political experience under his belt. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw his name in the hat.
Posted by MarkT on Oct-15-2008 18:08:
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Originally posted by Orko
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On a side note, I feel pretty ripped off that we just spent $300million to get rid of Dion. At least the libs and NDP won't be crying election every three weeks anymore. |
and if a CPC candidate or supporter knocked on my door to seek my support, that's the FIRST question that I would have asked them.
"before I even comment on my vote, can you please explain to me the rationale for spending an exhorbitant amount of taxpayer money on an election that none of us wanted or needed, AND despite fixed election date legislation?"
the consequent "uh, uh, uh..." would have resulted in me closing my door after asking them to return when they have an answer that was a little less bullshit than Harper's "Parliament is dysfunctional".
Posted by Yohan on Oct-15-2008 18:14:
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Honestly, I think he would have some sway in Quebec as he is a recognizable figure face in Quebec and Ontario...if not all of Canada. He is very well spoken and he now has some political experience under his belt. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw his name in the hat. |
yeah but Quebec is so disgrunted with libs right now, though this can change in few years when Cons aren't as popular as Quebecers as originally thought and people will get fed up with Bloc eventually
Posted by malek on Oct-15-2008 18:49:
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Originally posted by Yohan
people will get fed up with Bloc eventually |
uhu
that's a canadian wet dream... won't happen as long as we have guys like Harper or Dion or maybe even Trudeau jr running for prime ministers.
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