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Originally posted by boris_the_bear subjective.... right. lol ignorance is bliss. gravity is subjective or non-existent. newton was a stupid conservative with limited views

God you are so good at COMPLETELY evading responsibility to defend your biased topics. Please can you just kill yourself now? No seriously I think humans in general will benefit because they'll have more air to breathe.

can you not fucking read?

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Originally posted by jennypie It actually isn't subjective though. There has been much definitive research to show that children fare better with both male and female bonding partners, especially with the presence of a MOTHER in the first few years of life.

i don't get paid to recite and summarize a ton of scientific literature on the subject so if you want answers, why don't you at least google, you lazy fag

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear i don't get paid to recite and summarize a ton of scientific literature on the subject so if you want answers, why don't you at least google, you lazy fag

You don't win arguments by refusing to cite proof, either.

i don't really want to win the argument anymore. enough has been said on the subject

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear oh lord

There are plenty of studies that show homosexual parents have no influence on a child's behaviour, so Jake is right and you are wrong. I'm not going to show them to you though.

Incidentally, didn't you inadvertently come out of the closet on TA a month or so back?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There are plenty of studies that show homosexual parents have no influence on a child's behaviour, so Jake is right and you are wrong. I'm not going to show them to you though.

the fact that you wrote this with irony proves that you are obviously aware that no such studies exist. and as so, you've now taken away my burden to actually stack a bunch of citations and links to the facts/research jennypie and i mentioned. good job.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Incidentally, didn't you inadvertently come out of the closet on TA a month or so back?

of course. and there was this other thread where i confessed in eating babies. do you happen to have an underage kid, btw?

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear the fact that you wrote this with irony proves that you are obviously aware that no such studies exist. and as so, you've now taken away my burden to actually stack a bunch of citations and links to the facts/research jennypie and i mentioned. good job.

Actually I have read scientific claims that sexuality is determined in the womb, and I really am not going to show you anything until you link the slightest shred of evidence yourself.

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of course. and there was this other thread where i confessed in eating babies.

There's a difference between your crap humour and the kind of slip you made.

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Originally posted by Fledz Yep, my understanding was that a mother was in most cases critical within the first 3-4 years and then a father between that and 9-10, especially for young boys.

So thaaaat's why I'm so fucked up.

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Originally posted by Lews So thaaaat's why I'm so fucked up.

Well not necessarily, nothing is absolute though it does make sense when you look at it generally. I'm sure there's plenty of kids who turn out fine too.

No wait a minute, you're than vegetarian right? Yea, that's why you're fucked up!

can't be a vegan because cum is not a vegetable.

Haven't heard that one before Jay

Hey Fledz fuck you man . It's cool for me to say it, not you asshole.

I don't think vegetarians should be allowed to adopt.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I don't think vegetarians should be allowed to adopt.

Vegetarians are okay, it's them damn vegans we need to be keeping our children away from.

Ugh, those cunts.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear i don't really want to win the argument anymore. enough has been said on the subject

You can't win the argument because you can't site anything to back your opinion other than your own bias and occasionally specious reasons. That's the only that motivates your opinion. You don't think about it logically. That's why you can't win. Stupid neanderthal.

Funny this reminds me so much of my straight friend who told me one day he's glad Prop 8 passed because he thinks gays shouldn't marry and shouldn't adopt. I was like WHAT I thought we were friends?!?!? Funny thing while I was jacking off I ran across him naked doing porn. Fucking idiot. I bet you do porn too boris_the_buttplug. I bet you get paid to masturbate on gay sites and then preach about how gay people shouldn't become families hahahahaha. Oh you would do it too, wouldn't you. idiot.

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Originally posted by idoru Vegetarians are okay, it's them damn vegans we need to be keeping our children away from.

No no no, vegetarians shouldn't be allowed to adopt, vegans shouldn't be allowed to live.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Children up for adoption don't get the luxury of being ignorant to how uncaring the world is for a time. It's either be miraculously found by a loving couple who sought adoption, or growing up in the orphanage/foster home. I don't know what experience you have with those, and I certainly do not know what the differences would be between an orphanage in the US and one in Ukraine, but if you believe that children are in any way better off in those than they are in an actual home with a loving couple to learn from and grow with, you are dead wrong and are fortunate to have the luxury of taking your moral scruples for granted.

Well said.

At the end of the day, when given an option between being in a foster home/orphanage, or being with a same sex couple, the latter is indisputably better. With that being said, and the fact that almost 130 thousand children in the U.S. each year alone are left in the system, there should be no restriction on any couple who wants to adopt (outside of regular expectations.)

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Originally posted by Fledz No no no, vegetarians shouldn't be allowed to adopt, vegans shouldn't be allowed to live.

Ideally, more people should be sterilized/prevented from having children in the first place, not just gays.

Does everyone discussing cock2cock in this thread plan on telling their hypothetical 5-year-old son that it is normal for him to want to kiss little Ashley on the playground but that he can also kiss little Bobby if he wants to?

Just stirring the pot here.

"If you're not for us, you're against us"

Are you going to tell your 4-year-old son that one day he is going to grow up and meet a girl that he loves (just like you met mommy/you met daddy) and then have a family? Or are you going to throw "girl or boy" in there because you support equality in terms of sexual preference?

"One day you are going to meet a girl, or a boy, that you love. And you will want to be with him or her all the time, and so you will want to be together and maybe buy a house and get married. Whatever makes you happy - mommy/daddy/mommy and daddy will support you when this happens"

Or are you just going to avoid the topic altogether?
What if your kid asks you "Mama/Daddy... will I ever grow up and have a family?" How will you explain the possibilities to them?


What about the idea of chivalry? Out-dated, to some. I think it's still nice for men to open doors. Shows class and good manners.
This becomes funny if I were to teach my male child to factor the possibility that he/she is gay while teaching him good manners (because they seem to be based on the premise of a purely hetero world)
"Son, you should always open doors for girls and let them walk ahead of you. It's the polite thing to do. Or for a boy who has smaller arms and is meeker than you are (???????) especially if you think he's cute"

This chivalry thing made much more sense in my head
I think what I am trying to say is that a lot of what is considered to be "good manners" is ingrained in a purely heterosexual society
i.e. "ladies first" or lifting something heavy for a woman ... it seems to be a sort of social conduct. A little backwards? Maybe. I still find that sort of thing very nice and comforting.

Say the Titanic sunk during a time where there was 100% equality in terms of sexual preference. Would they still just call for women and children, first? Or would it be something like "Women and children and those men in a homosexual relationship who play the less dominant roll or who have less body mass - please step forward!" ????

My musings sound retarded because this I have never thought about this before until now.

Honestly, I believe in traditional gender roles. But I'm not going to shit on someone else's preferences, or even force my own onto my children. At the end of the day it really isn't that big of a fucking deal if I have taught my children to be polite, considerate, and tolerant - qualities that transcend gender.

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Originally posted by jennypie But I'm not going to shit on someone else's preferences, or even force my own onto my children. At the end of the day it really isn't that big of a fucking deal if I have taught my children to be polite, considerate, and tolerant - qualities that transcend gender.

This. I'm going to bring my kids up in an environment that will make them feel completely comfortable with who they are, whether or not they want to kiss Ashley or grab Grant's ass. As long as they're brought up to be respectful, upstanding citizens then their sexual preference won't matter.

Edit: To relate this to Ania's post, all gay couples I know have also said the same thing.

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Originally posted by idoru grab Grant's ass

i love this

It would have been funnier if it was an alliteration, like "Kiss Katie's cooter and grab Grant's groin."

Just saying.

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