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Posted by The17sss on Jun-16-2010 19:50:

kind of a good thing that BP makes "obscene profits" eh? now they can pay for the damages without going bankrupt and leaving taxpayers on the hook.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-16-2010 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
kind of a good thing that BP makes "obscene profits" eh? now they can pay for the damages without going bankrupt and leaving taxpayers on the hook.


i would still recomend shorting htem. when the bbl total leakage comes out and they are paying 4300 per barrel in damages and penalties, lets see how much of their revenue is eaten up.

This spill is going to make ixtoc look like a cakewalk. I hope we see 100 dollars per bbl by end of summer.


Posted by ReclusNdangrmnt on Jun-17-2010 01:10:


Posted by Lews on Jun-17-2010 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i would still recomend shorting htem. when the bbl total leakage comes out and they are paying 4300 per barrel in damages and penalties, lets see how much of their revenue is eaten up.

This spill is going to make ixtoc look like a cakewalk. I hope we see 100 dollars per bbl by end of summer.


I said like a few days afterward I should have shorted it, and I definitely should have

Just part of me isn't too keen on the idea of shorting something just because you never know what could happen and I feel like I missed the opportunity when I had it.


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Jun-17-2010 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit


This spill is going to make ixtoc look like a cakewalk. I hope we see 100 dollars per bbl by end of summer.


Why? I want our dependency on oil to diminish as much as possible too, but this would just hurt EVERYONE. Small business owners, the average citizen, etc.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-17-2010 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
Why? I want our dependency on oil to diminish as much as possible too, but this would just hurt EVERYONE. Small business owners, the average citizen, etc.


the same reason why everyone doesnt drive a ferrari.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-17-2010 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
I said like a few days afterward I should have shorted it, and I definitely should have

Just part of me isn't too keen on the idea of shorting something just because you never know what could happen and I feel like I missed the opportunity when I had it.


that and when the time comes, you have to pay out a largesum dividend.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-17-2010 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
the same reason why everyone doesnt drive a ferrari.


That's kind of heartless and suggests that everyone who wants to make a livable wage would also like to be making one while driving a Ferrari. It's not enough that your principles have no efficacy. They also seem to be missing a moral compass.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Jun-17-2010 10:38:

20 billion to escrow lol


Posted by we_R_DNA on Jun-17-2010 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by get nyce
20 billion to escrow lol


Where is the fund that helps pay for all of the creatures of the sea being killed?

Humanity has a lot to learn; and one thing to learn is that no price tag can be put on the lives of the creatures in the sea.

Nor do I think paying people off will help either

Humans are to blame;
Humans are the ones who will ultimately experience the Karma of their actions

On a whole I am apart of that experience and I am deeply perturbed by the actions of a few


Think of the US economy; is this money really going to help clean up the mess?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-17-2010 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
That's kind of heartless and suggests that everyone who wants to make a livable wage would also like to be making one while driving a Ferrari. It's not enough that your principles have no efficacy. They also seem to be missing a moral compass.


no, actually it suggests that the cost for a barrel of oil is something we take for granted and shouldn't put our planet in perril just to have cheap gas. The simple rules of supply and demand. The viable supply of oil demands that gas is more expensive. This will encourage people to use public transit more, carpool etc. You're response to me suggests that you don't think that crude oil is a luxury when in fact it is. This as well as wallmart and the burkenstocks you wear.


Posted by w_ashley on Jun-17-2010 15:46:

I wonder if this 20 billion compramises the taxes BP would pay to the Federal Government anyway?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-17-2010 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
I wonder if this 20 billion compramises the taxes BP would pay to the Federal Government anyway?


obviously they would pay less taxes if they earn less income end of year. It all depends on how they ammortize this fund.


Posted by wing on Jun-17-2010 18:01:









rest are here (worth checking out):

http://www.aladding.com/newsDetail.cfm?postid=496714


Posted by Moongoose on Jun-17-2010 18:43:




This pic always brings me down.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-17-2010 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
no, actually it suggests that the cost for a barrel of oil is something we take for granted and shouldn't put our planet in perril just to have cheap gas. The simple rules of supply and demand. The viable supply of oil demands that gas is more expensive. This will encourage people to use public transit more, carpool etc. You're response to me suggests that you don't think that crude oil is a luxury when in fact it is. This as well as wallmart and the burkenstocks you wear.


I wear neither Wal*Mart nor Birkenstocks. If appropriate measures had been taken to manage the impact, I might agree with you, but you're merely justifying your position out of expediency and not out of any altruistic intention.


Posted by we_R_DNA on Jun-18-2010 03:15:

http://inspiredeconomist.com/2010/0...-the-oil-spill/


Posted by UWM on Jun-18-2010 03:26:

http://joebartonwouldliketoapologize.com/


Posted by Lews on Jun-18-2010 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
that and when the time comes, you have to pay out a largesum dividend.


True, though in this case hasn't BP said they aren't going to pay a dividend for a while?


Posted by RandomGirl on Jun-18-2010 03:47:

Sorry if this is a repost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4eSqSu2hWk

Hopefully it works and they get enough out there to prevent the oil from spreading too much.

I haven't really been following what has been going on with this for the most part. Would someone please let me know what Obama said about it? Is the gov't paying anything to fix this or is BP going to be held responsible?


Posted by ModernNosferatu on Jun-18-2010 03:57:

If I had the money to do so, I would be out there helping clean those poor aniamls and fish.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-18-2010 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose



This pic always brings me down.


Shitmonster!


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-18-2010 05:03:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Shitmonster!


You didn't see the hearings where the COO of BP coated our hallowed halls with think layers of bullshit.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-18-2010 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You didn't see the hearings where the COO of BP coated our hallowed halls with think layers of bullshit.


haha.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-18-2010 05:28:

It was ridiculous. They start off detailing all of the information they have, then say that Hayward's been given questions in advance. Every single answer he gave was either PR pablum or it was strictly plausible deniability. He never once answered any question, but either the most basic or to which an answer was already obvious. Waxman kept leaning into him, too, saying, "Didn't you promise to focus like a laser on safety issues?"

He was like a prize fighter focusing on Hayward's "Laser" quote like it was a cut above his eye. Of course the guy sat there like a teenager who'd just been caught steeling on video camera but is too stupid to realize that they already had all the evidence to crucify him in the eyes of the public. I don't think I've seen such a passive-aggressive display, in quite a long time.


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