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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Still a virgin at 20 due to a multitude of reasons. I think these are the main factors: * No friends at all left in this city * My looks are "just" OK, which means that all girls ever bother to talk to me for is to have a venting channel for their issues, so that they can go to other good looking guys who won't listen for everything else. After I refused to listen to their rantings anymore, they all fucked off. * Half the girls in this city won't have sex till marriage (and of course all the female friends I did get had to end up being those kind of people) * Got sick of the whole courting process after being rejected again and again cos I didn't look good enough and/or wasn't popular enough * Always been the odd one out where I live (different ethics and morals, different interests, different tastes etc.) * Dramatic shifts in my personality scared people away, since they no longer knew where they had me * And of course my overall moodiness and depressive tendencies aren't exactly the biggest girl magnet there is. So I'm stuck for now it seems. I hope something happens this summer or when I move to Oslo this autumn though.

that reallly sucks. go on extreme makeover. i used to be ugly. its called the ugly duckling stage. i think we all go through it once in our lives. when you have braces, acne, your skinny, and your voice cracks. but then, you start lifting weights, washing your face at night, the braces come off, and your voice finally matures.

i kind of have the same problem as you. a lot of girls like me, and i get lots of looks places i go, but no girl like, likes me. its just im something good to look at, but other than that, they wont even admit that they have a thing for me.

and what pisses me off, is the ugly girls. i fuc*in hate when one of them likes me. i think the ugly people should stick with the ugly people, and the beautiful people with the beautiful people.

PS. i want to go to Oslo. is it cold there?

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That's just your opinion, If a girl is "a nice catholic girl", your less likely to score some poontang

Yes but your more likely of getting a mature girl who will love you for who you are and not for how good you kiss or are in bed. sex is not all in life and when have the girls are sallow as they are in this world I dont wonder why there aer so many divorces each day....

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Originally posted by Electronicmaji Yes but your more likely of getting a mature girl who will love you for who you are and not for how good you kiss or are in bed. sex is not all in life and when have the girls are sallow as they are in this world I dont wonder why there aer so many divorces each day....

is it the same way in cambodia?? dont they have forced marraiges there?? a guy and girl get married after knowing each other for like a week...

EDIT: Is Cambodia communist?? i thought communist gov'ts dont allow the internet..

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Originally posted by Heinz is it the same way in cambodia?? dont they have forced marraiges there?? a guy and girl get married after knowing each other for like a week... EDIT: Is Cambodia communist?? i thought communist gov'ts dont allow the internet..

Cambodia =/= Colombia

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Originally posted by Heinz that reallly sucks. go on extreme makeover. i used to be ugly. its called the ugly duckling stage. i think we all go through it once in our lives. when you have braces, acne, your skinny, and your voice cracks. but then, you start lifting weights, washing your face at night, the braces come off, and your voice finally matures.

It's not that, I don't consider myself to be ugly at all, I've seen far more ugly people than me get girlfriends who I consider to be goodlooking. And no offense, but at 20 most of your pubertal appearance issues have worn off, well at least mine have

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i kind of have the same problem as you. a lot of girls like me, and i get lots of looks places i go, but no girl like, likes me. its just im something good to look at, but other than that, they wont even admit that they have a thing for me.

I know the feeling. I guess I'm another one of those who suffer from the well known nice guy-syndrome. I figured to do something bout that I'd start biting back and. And it worked, all the girls who want me as their vent have now fucked off. I'm still lonely though :/

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PS. i want to go to Oslo. is it cold there?

Depends what you define as cold. It can drop to like -8 or -10 degrees celsius at worst.

sorry I dont live in Cambodia I dont know anything about prearranged marriages

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I'll be @ Cube for Quivver this saturday, perhaps I'll see you there?

too bad for me you won't, since I'm still under 18

Oi, Leapa:

Having no friends left in Kristiansand is not actually a bad thing. You can use this time to withdraw a bit from social life and work on yourself for a LITTLE while. You said you had some mood changes and was often depressed, didn't you? Well, work on this. Do stuff you like. As for courting, it really depends on how you're doing it. If you look too desperate, doing far more than what the girl expects from blokes (remember girls are usually insecure and often have low self-steem), or if you're too slow, you're automatically out. Confidence is also the key: self-pitty will turn you into a cute boy, not in a potential lover.

Looks aren't that much important, as you know. All you need is to have that little something to make you different (ie: ever noticed girls fancy blokes who have the spotlight?). Impress her. I've had girls liking me because I speak many languages, because I play the saxophone, because I knew how to entertain them... ie, you can't be "just another one". You said you're the "odd" one, didn't you? This is the good part, all you need is to attract (good) attention to this peculiar side of yours. Most girls know I'm a lot into electronic music, and when I speak about it, I make it sound like the world's eigth wonder, and they seem to like the passionate feeling I have for it. Being well with yourself makes her well with her self, and once she's confortable, you're halfway through

Also, if you're looking for a girlfriend, as long as I've noticed, you're already wrong. This sort of thing is supposed to flow naturally (have you ever actually "looked for friends"?).

I think he lives in Kristiansand, a bit further away from oslo. Speaking of that, I think I'll be going to quart this year btw

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Originally posted by noonboy I think he lives in Kristiansand, a bit further away from oslo. Speaking of that, I think I'll be going to quart this year btw

Oops, my bad

Yea, Kristiansand is a 5 hour drive to Oslo.

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Originally posted by Lira Having no friends left in Kristiansand is not actually a bad thing. You can use this time to withdraw a bit from social life and work on yourself for a LITTLE while. You said you had some mood changes and was often depressed, didn't you? Well, work on this. Do stuff you like.

Yup, in fact I was the one who pulled all the plugs on my previous friends intentionally, since I never got along with them or anybody else I tried to get along with for the last 3-4 years, but that's another story.

I've been doing a lot of travelling in order to experience the music I love, which I've gained many amazing experiences from. So I am in the process of doing what I want to myself, but unfortunately it doesn't help much when I get back home to my usual misery. I honestly believe that I don't show my depression much in real life though, as I've never had any comments on it whatsoever. For the very same reason I believe that my looks aren't anything special since noone ever compliments me or notices me due to my looks either.

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As for courting, it really depends on how you're doing it. If you look too desperate, doing far more than what the girl expects from blokes (remember girls are usually insecure and often have low self-steem), or if you're too slow, you're automatically out. Confidence is also the key: self-pitty will turn you into a cute boy, not in a potential lover.

Good point, I know the first few times I tried it I obv overdid it wayyyy too much, but after that I think my overall bad rep + the fact that I'm not really popular or particularly good looking has pretty much burned all my bridges when it comes to getting any girlfriends around my city. It's a long story I don't want to go through again, but that's pretty much what has happened.
And like I said, the times I have succeeded in getting close to a girl while playing it cool and capturing her interest, it all ended up with me turning into her venting wall while she went off with others for everything else. This has happened several times and I'm so sick and tired of it, which again makes me draw the conclusion that I'm either not good looking enough to evoke sexual interest in girls, or I'm just suffering from the nice guy-syndrome. So although it isn't the smartest choice, I've decided to not make any effort whatsoever until a girl actually shows some interest in me on her own. Although the chance that it happens is small, at least the risk for making an ass of myself again is a lot smaller.

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Looks aren't that much important, as you know. All you need is to have that little something to make you different (ie: ever noticed girls fancy blokes who have the spotlight?). Impress her. I've had girls liking me because I speak many languages, because I play the saxophone, because I knew how to entertain them... ie, you can't be "just another one". You said you're the "odd" one, didn't you? This is the good part, all you need is to attract (good) attention to this peculiar side of yours. Most girls know I'm a lot into electronic music, and when I speak about it, I make it sound like the world's eigth wonder, and they seem to like the passionate feeling I have for it. Being well with yourself makes her well with her self, and once she's confortable, you're halfway through

Unfortunately all my qualities are no good in the social circuit I'm currently in. Noone likes EDM around here, and that I can speak german fluently just gives me an edge intellectually, and that isn't enough around here, at least that's my impression. The fact that I'm the odd one out is not a good thing around here either, because the effect is that people shun you rather than take interest in you out of curiosity. In my experience that's a general attitude problem around here, and I'm left to suffer for it. Add the fact that I have no stunning looks to support me, and things look very bleak

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Also, if you're looking for a girlfriend, as long as I've noticed, you're already wrong. This sort of thing is supposed to flow naturally (have you ever actually "looked for friends"?).

Trust me, I gave up looking for GFs ages ago, since I realized that all it gave me was frustration and humiliation. All the bad experiences I've had has prolly put me off of those kind of things for good.

But like I said, hopefully things will change for the better when I get the hell out of here.

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I know the feeling. I guess I'm another one of those who suffer from the well known nice guy-syndrome. I figured to do something bout that I'd start biting back and. And it worked, all the girls who want me as their vent have now fucked off. I'm still lonely though :/

true true, the good-guy syndrome. i definately have that. im crazy though. but still a good guy.

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Depends what you define as cold. It can drop to like -8 or -10 degrees celsius at worst.

damn....where i live, the lowest it ever gets is 5C, and thats at night in january. itll get like 35C for weeks on end in the summer. paris thought they had it bad last summer. in tampa, its like that from may to october.

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sorry I dont live in Cambodia I dont know anything about prearranged marriages

oh shit, my bad Electronicmaji. colombia ay. tell us about marxist rebels

they kill, kidnap...family and even friends of mine


they commit cowardly terrorist attacks on people who only crime is to think different politically then them

theyre heartless cowards ...

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Originally posted by sym That's just your opinion, If a girl is "a nice catholic girl", your less likely to score some poontang

haha... that is funny! I go to a catholic university and you would think the girls are good girls but really they are not. Stay away from the sorority girls... they all have at least one std.

I lost my virginity when I was 18 and I had been dating the guy for 6 months. I am 21 now and my current boyfriend is the second guy that I have slept with so I don't think it is that bad.

Moving from Kristiansand will sure be a good thing for you, Leaper. From what I read, the place you're in is not helpful at all, so if you're having the chance to move, try to get all the good things you can from it. Before moving, though, no matter how much this next sentence may sound, remember that chances come inside out: no matter where you are, you're the one who chooses how you wanna see what's surrounding you. I reckon there's a whole bad mood about Kristiansand, so you can consider Oslo as a new beginning.

I'm 23 and I'm not a virgin anymore
I love it, but you should not do it too regularly, you get too used to it then....
So a break from time to time is very good imo...

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Originally posted by Heinz and what pisses me off, is the ugly girls. i fuc*in hate when one of them likes me. i think the ugly people should stick with the ugly people, and the beautiful people with the beautiful people.

OMG you'r joking right ??

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Originally posted by Lira Oi, Leapa: As for courting, it really depends on how you're doing it. If you look too desperate, doing far more than what the girl expects from blokes (remember girls are usually insecure and often have low self-steem), or if you're too slow, you're automatically out. Confidence is also the key: self-pitty will turn you into a cute boy, not in a potential lover. Also, if you're looking for a girlfriend, as long as I've noticed, you're already wrong. This sort of thing is supposed to flow naturally (have you ever actually "looked for friends"?).

that's so true !!

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