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Ja, he speaks the truth... no psytrance on vinyl.
Personally I prefer to mix on wax spindles. The quality shits over vinyl and melting your own spindle costs half the price of a blank cd.
Ofcourse there is the issue of it melting on you mid set if the temperature in the club is too hot, but its a small price to pay.
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| Originally posted by Axolotyl Ja, he speaks the truth... no psytrance on vinyl. Personally I prefer to mix on wax spindles. The quality shits over vinyl and melting your own spindle costs half the price of a blank cd. Ofcourse there is the issue of it melting on you mid set if the temperature in the club is too hot, but its a small price to pay. |
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| Originally posted by Chrill wax spindles`? what's that? any good webadress? |
Can just see myself carrying my cylinders to my gigs.. 
Nem
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| Originally posted by Axolotyl Yeah check out this link. Its totally going to kill cds and vinyl when the technology hits the market place... |
Tiesto has switched to just cylinders now
eh weak
Our trance music is released first and sometimes only on vinyl so it's the best way to stay fresh.
But on the other hand big name DJ/producers will use cd's to play stuff that is unreleased, to play stuff they made last week to see if it gets a good crowd response.
Vinyl will weed out the non-enthusiasts just by its price tag. I've seen mates who got dexx for xmas off their olds and now they're just collecting dust.
When I say DJ's I mean the real ones like me and you that mix and have a passion for our hobbie and lifestyle not like those dickheads that call themselves dj's who play top 40 and Karaoke on a Friday night down at the local pub.
Techno moving into digital realm
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| While the world of electronic music hurtles that much closer to the cutting edge, I find myself seemingly at the point furthest from it. That's right, I've been hitting the flea market. The market holds all kinds of novelties: memorabilia, cheap hotdogs and, most importantly, records. Since the days of disco, vinyl has been the modern-dance DJ's staple. However, like so much else at the flea market, records too are becoming relics of a bygone era. Electronic music, or "techno'' to the layperson, is moving beyond its analog roots into a mostly digital realm. Vinyl turntables are slowly being ousted by CD turntables, and pretty sophisticated ones at that. Pioneer makes what's widely regarded as the industry standard CD deck. However, not to be outdone, Technics has crafted a CD turntable that truly simulates the feel of playing a record, thanks to a rotating platter. A host of other manufacturers have followed suit. There's a definite logic in playing CDs over records. Foremost is convenience. For the touring DJ, a wallet full of CDs is far less cumbersome than a bag of records. And through the advent of digital media files like MP3s and online music stores like iTunes.com and beatport.com, getting the freshest new tunes has never been easier. Just log on, proceed to the shop, download your track, burn it to CD and you're off to the races. It's hard to ignore the onset of such practicality. Yet I continually find myself scouring the dust-bound bins of flea markets, garage sales and second-hand shops. Bottom line, I love vinyl because of the esthetic, the hunt and the gratification of coming up with stuff that's unique and unexpected. In some cases, the rare stuff ends up costing me about as much as a brand-new record would. Assuming I found them in a legal digital format online (doubtful given their age), they'd probably be cheaper. However, if I hadn't run across them in the bin, it's unlikely I'd ever think to look for them online in the first place. The bargains also allow me to pick up records I already own and give the spares to friends as gifts. Of course, I could just record the song, encode it to MP3 and e-mail it instead. But a digital copy hardly seems as thoughtful, or tangible for that matter. For some, even CDs are passe, with a handful of pioneering DJs foregoing turntables altogether and playing directly from their laptops - a push-button beat symphony. Sasha, ranked fourth-best DJ in the world by DJ Mag, employed this technique for his gig at the Standard last month. Dance music purists, an oxymoron if there ever was one (electronic music is predicated on it being forward-thinking), might scoff at the idea of DJ George Jetson standing on an altar, clicking a mouse. Foreign, sure, but no more crazy than rock enthusiasts who blasted the concept of beat-matching records together during the '70s, saying it would never last. House music, techno, breaks and countless other genres are testimony to that fact that dance music has persevered and flourished. Ultimately, the acts that combine the old with the new have the best chance of reaching the widest audience. The deft turntable skills of Montreal-based DJ Kid Koala are the centrepiece of Bull Frog, a jazz ensemble that was one of the most well-received acts during last year's Jazz City festival. Jazz's inherent experimental nature is a ready complement to electronic futurism, after all. Locally, drum and bass DJ/producer Scott "Cartridge'' Koladich is couching what he calls "video game funk rock'' into his live Lazersnake project. With Koladich on keyboards and Evan Frost on bass and drums, the crossover should draw in fans of live bands who might stereotypically dismiss dance music as "all sounding the same.'' Digital media and new technologies are exciting, but in application they need exciting ideas behind them to truly make them worthwhile. There's also no sense in looking ahead at the expense of things that still work great - like records. See you at the flea market. Hotdogs are on me. |
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| When I say DJ's I mean the real ones like me and you that mix and have a passion for our hobbie and lifestyle not like those dickheads that call themselves dj's who play top 40 and Karaoke on a Friday night down at the local pub. |
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| Originally posted by DJ_LG When I say DJ's I mean the real ones like me and you that mix and have a passion for our hobbie and lifestyle not like those dickheads that call themselves dj's who play top 40 and Karaoke on a Friday night down at the local pub. |
LOL! I was on a party last night and there was a DJ who were using a computer and Virtual DJ with MP3's.. He also had a pair of headphones but he didn't even know how to use them (ha had them hanging on his neck the whole night)!
It was so LOL on that guy!
When I talked to him and asked why he didn't use hardware he just said "If you don't like software and computers, just leave"
Damn that sounded funny!
I swore I wouldn't get involved in this thread again, but its just too much fun...
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| Originally posted by DJ_LG Our trance music is released first and sometimes only on vinyl so it's the best way to stay fresh. |
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| Vinyl will weed out the non-enthusiasts just by its price tag. |
For what it's worth, and I haven't read the entire thread, just a few pages:
I prefer to plan on and listen to sets on Vinyl, it just has a warm sound that is simply unreproducible in the digital domain with current technology. It's that nice sound of analog.
Plus I know for a fact that the DJ is having a good time because you can't not with the heavy feel of turntables and vinyl.
If you're poor...go w/CDs...
If you're rich...go w/vinyl...
This debate will never end.
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| Originally posted by DJ_LG When I say DJ's I mean the real ones like me and you that mix and have a passion for our hobbie and lifestyle not like those dickheads that call themselves dj's who play top 40 and Karaoke on a Friday night down at the local pub. |
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| Originally posted by Nemesis44 now that I have been offered a residency in Ibiza ever other week during the whole summer. |
Once you’ve mixed on a cdj 1000 with stored loops and cue points on your memory card, i can't understand why’d you want to mix on vinyl.
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats fucken awesome dude. congrats! |
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| Once you’ve mixed on a cdj 1000 with stored loops and cue points on your memory card, i can't understand why’d you want to mix on vinyl. |
I have turntables, but am considering cd tables. What is better the Numark CDX Premium Direct Drive CD Turntable or the Pioneer?
He he, the way I see it is this... If I didn't play CDs I wouldn't be able to play productions from people like yourself.
Will be testing some of yours this weekend. Got three gigs set up so will give them a full work out.
All the best
Nem
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| Originally posted by TranceGeek because when you pay for a vinyl record, you pay for a right to play that track, with mp3s you don't? |
AHA! Someone is paying attention... now what if the rules were changed so that you WERE allowed to do those things - simply being called or referenced and covering the general use for a 12" record - "Licensed for Vinyl DJ Mixed Use Only" and even permitted to do certain things with records that did give you that very permission - but only when the actual vinyl record is used - not a digital "copy" of it?
Well guess what. Black Tiger Recordings has been doing this since its first release in 2003. By purchasing the 12" vinyl record we permit you to include the record into a mixed set or perform it publicly without fear of being sued by us. After all that's what we put the records out for in the first place. For Vinyl DJs to go out and use either in a mixed set at a show, on a radio station, and even - now get this - use in a mixed set you offer for sale in limited numbers (max 250 CD-R copies in a single run or 500 glass mastered CD copies, or in a mixed set released online with a max encoded stereo bit rate of 160kbps)!
Now what if there was a way to take things another step and provide for a platform to legally track make available those mixed sets sold, bringing in the artists and the labels as well as the DJ a cut on each set sold while contributing to that DJ and the artists "stature" in a system that could be deployed to make it all a one stop shop for DJ mixes - but only done off vinyl records (because the "license" is a lot harder to "devalue" as apposed to doing this with digital copies which are nearly impossible to track in terms of sales and final copies actually purchased, used in a set released through such a system), and only records "pre-cleared" though this system??
While we are currently the only lable we know of doing this, we have laid the ground work for others to get on board and we are talking about it with some of the other smaller labels like ourselves - who also happen to be run by DJs and producers who actually care about the future of Dance music. THIS IS D.E.J.I.
BTR-005 is the first full "stage 1" comlpete release which covers the bases for making such a system go with special numbers on the label for registration by a DJ who purchased it and wants to put it into a set. There are lot of reasons why this kind of system would effectively hit the reset switch on the current state of at least our industry and scene. It's something to think about.
All that ranting and raving I did in the other parts of this thread may have just become REALLY CLEAR to some people, but if not, please email me with any questions you may have about it either as vinyl DJ, producer or perhaps even as a label or something thinking about starting a label.
Re: vinyl records vs cds
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| Originally posted by annon185 what's better (DJwise that is....)? |
I use both vinyl's and cd's! I'll agree that you can't beat vinyl for that feeling of gliding the record back and forth under the needle... then when the time is just right, letting the wheel of steel take over! for some reason it feels so nice!! On the other hand I love cd's for the simple fact... producers that have just finished the latest sickest track will throw it on cdr first, because a)they want to get it into peoples hands right away b)it takes awhile to complete the process of pressing a track to vinyl, considering with a cd you simply left click on "write file"!
So with me, I'll grab the hotest and latest cdr single online or from a buddy and drop it down the next time I'm spinning! Then finally when the record label gets around to pressing and distributing it ... I buy it
just my 2cent...
B.Meanies
Re: Re: vinyl records vs cds
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dj portion
The sound out of vinyl is so much better too as it soesnt have to be compressed to fit into a cd file you loose so much of the nice sub bass and also some of the high range stuff on cds
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