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I didn't say he was honest dipshit.

Well you are defending his side and Bush's when they are proven war criminals and flat out liars deceiving their own people.

Wait I forgot you are retarded, that's why you don't get it.

Thanks Kryptoshit.

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Originally posted by culorut Well you are defending his side and Bush's when they are proven war criminals and flat out liars deceiving their own people. Wait I forgot you are retarded, that's why you don't get it. Thanks Kryptoshit.

I beleive that krypton has mentioned ICC trials for those responsible for any misdoings, but that has nothing to do with treason. The U.S. wouldn't allow its own leaders to be tried in the Hague anyways, they are one of 2 western powers that I'm aware of that aren't members of the process.

But the fact that you are taking someone with a more radical stance on Bush and Cheney and turning him into a brainwashed sympathizer makes you appear, well...I'll just leave the namecalling to PKC .

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Originally posted by culorut Well you are defending his side and Bush's when they are proven war criminals and flat out liars deceiving their own people. Wait I forgot you are retarded, that's why you don't get it. Thanks Kryptoshit.

you'r a fucking idiot. I want them charged for war crimes. But you are accusing them of treason dipshit...

Yes because lying and killing their own people for no reason is really that far off from being treason. I get it already, you believe they are war criminals, murderers and proven liars but when it comes to 9/11 they suddenly became honest, at least in your eyes.

They are enemies of their own people never mind the state. Stop crying like a little....



But thanks again for proving how retarded you are Kryptoshit.

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Originally posted by culorut Yes because lying and killing their own people for no reason is really that far off from being treason. I get it already, you believe they are war criminals, murderers and proven liars but when it comes to 9/11 they suddenly became honest, at least in your eyes. They are enemies of their own people never mind the state. Stop crying like a little.... [IMG]http://www.boston.com/yourlife/family/blog/baby-crying%20jpg.jpg[IMG] But thanks again for proving how retarded you are Kryptoshit.

lol, apparently, you still do not know the legal definition of treason. Go educate yourself...oh forgot, education is for getting brainwashed...

LOL, legal definition of torture? You are joking right? Just because Obama does not want to follow through with prosecuting does not mean it did not happen.

Again if you are saying they did not order the torture or profit from the blood of your own people then maybe you should hit the books before you talk and make more outlandish assumptions.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html

In case you haven't watched today's news, here are the "torture memos" issued by Bush-Cheney's Justice Department which enabled the top administration bosses and their underlings in the CIA to carry out illegal torture tactics on prisoners. War criminals like Dick Cheney still justify their actions with impunity. Why should he worry? The weak-kneed Obama administration, even while making the memos public, has made it clear that it intends to paper over the lawlessness of its predecessors for the sake of moving forward.

18-page memo, dated August 1, 2002, from Jay Bybee

46-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury

20-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury

40-page memo, dated May 30, 2005, from Steven Bradbury


Education you say? Yes please get some, actually a whole lot because it seems you are very young and have a lot to learn.

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Originally posted by culorut LOL, legal definition of torture? You are joking right? Just because Obama does not want to follow through with prosecuting does not mean it did not happen. Again if you are saying they did not order the torture or profit from the blood of your own people then maybe you should hit the books before you talk and make more outlandish assumptions. http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html In case you haven't watched today's news, here are the "torture memos" issued by Bush-Cheney's Justice Department which enabled the top administration bosses and their underlings in the CIA to carry out illegal torture tactics on prisoners. War criminals like Dick Cheney still justify their actions with impunity. Why should he worry? The weak-kneed Obama administration, even while making the memos public, has made it clear that it intends to paper over the lawlessness of its predecessors for the sake of moving forward. 18-page memo, dated August 1, 2002, from Jay Bybee 46-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury 20-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury 40-page memo, dated May 30, 2005, from Steven Bradbury Education you say? Yes please get some, actually a whole lot because it seems you are very young and have a lot to learn.

Torture? I said 'treason'. Legal definition of treason.

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Originally posted by yukii Torture? I said 'treason'. Legal definition of treason.

Really?

Last edited by yukii on May-01-2009 at 22:17

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You said torture, if you feel confused about it I suggest you slow down for a second and collect your thoughts before you hit the keyboard.

For one I could not give a shit what you think the legal definition of treason is. Murdering your own innocent people because or their own false hoods makes you an enemy of the state and a traitor. Look below and tell me what the last administration have done is not "serious" enough for you.

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Obama does not wish to pursue the torture issue choosing instead to move forward and ignore the ugly past of the last administration. This does not mean it did not happen, he does not have the balls (at least for now) to bring it to the table and a few people around here seem to be missing some balls as well.

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Originally posted by culorut For one I could not give a shit what you think the legal definition of treason is. Murdering your own innocent people because or their own false hoods makes you an enemy of the state and a traitor. Look below and tell me what the last administration have done is not "serious" enough for you.

You haven't one iota of truth to your statement, "Murdering your own innocent people." Don't give a shit what I think treason is. Give a shit what the constitution defines it as...

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In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Stop using that definition. This is the LEGAL definition of treason...

"Article 3: Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

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Obama does not wish to pursue the torture issue choosing instead to move forward and ignore the ugly past of the last administration. This does not mean it did not happen, he does not have the balls (at least for now) to bring it to the table and a few people around here seem to be missing some balls as well.

Then why the fuck are they releasing more photos? Why are they talking about prosecuting former Justice Dept. officials. Once again, you show you don't know what the fuck you'r talking about...

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and yukki meant treason but typed torture.
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Still waiting for the people to charge, the charge, and the evidence for the charges, which you so adamantly advocate everyday on this forum. Apparently, you want to charge Cheney with treason. But refuse to provide evidence beyond, "He murdered his own people." What a fucking joke...

911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface.

You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve 911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface. You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

Whose they? And what have "they" done? What crime are you charging "they" with?

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Whose they? And what have "they" done? What crime are you charging "they" with?

I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it.

The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

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Originally posted by culorut I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it. The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

Here's what he said since you don't know how to read...

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

What, are you two butt buddies? Or is that your alt? Strange the moment a TIT posts some 9/11 bullshit, you pop right in.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve 911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface. You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

pffff
you need to get your chunky ass out of all those fantasy/matrix novels, take your final fantasy shirt off, and go for a run.

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Originally posted by culorut I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it. The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

glad to see you back!

They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati.

What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth.

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Originally posted by yukii pffff you need to get your chunky ass out of all those fantasy/matrix novels, take your final fantasy shirt off, and go for a run.

Far from chunky, my friend. I work out three days a week, and run track 45 minutes every morning. Never liked Final Fantasy, either. In fact I'm for knowledge, specifically the suppressed. This is no fantasy, but now well documented in modern underground science, although still controversial in mainstream. Truth is stranger than fiction, it's mind over matter. There is NO fixed reality; I suggest you look up "left-brain imprisonment".

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati.

You don't get it. I'm asking for specific names. And I'm asking you what crime did they commit. You are the prosecutor. You are making very serious allegations. We are the jury. Screaming Illuminati isn't going to win you your case. You seem to not even know who your talking about.

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What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth.

I see. I'm supposed to take your holier than thou word on it right? FAIL.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati. What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth. Far from chunky, my friend. I work out three days a week, and run track 45 minutes every morning. Never liked Final Fantasy, either. In fact I'm for knowledge, specifically the suppressed. This is no fantasy, but now well documented in modern underground science, although still controversial in mainstream. Truth is stranger than fiction, it's mind over matter. There is NO fixed reality; I suggest you look up "left-brain imprisonment".

Look, i have absolutely no problem with conspiracy theories. I have no problem in finding out im wrong- or finding out that my concept of reality is false.. finding 'truth'..

problem is, im waiting. i have read articles & debated with colorut & nothing he has said (or anyone else) has truly intrigued me or made me think- "wow! he has a point!" .. maybe he's right.

so until i get valuable information, i don't see any real 'truth' or 'reality' .. i see mine & you have yours. for that, no one should be called a sheep.

plus, naming out 'they' is so ambiguous
uncle sam- the gov?
big brother- you gota be kidding me...
m.of the p.- yeah, i had my metallica phase in highschool
.. illuminati?!?!?!?!?!?!!!1 that was the funniest one dude. seriously..



how could you possibly in your right mind put 'illuminati' in such a debate? let's all stand up for the NWO

Sigh, it's very complex. I used to be in the exact same boat as you, yuiki. It's been over a year that I have slowly been waking up, I didn't "get it" over night.

Albert Einstein on left-brain imprisonment: 'The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.'

When I mean they, I mean the shadows behind the government. It's called a pyramid power structure. This has been set in society for hundreds of years, if not thousands and dates all the way back to Babylon (currently Iraq).

http://thebiggestsecretpict.online....d_structure.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/freedom/pyramid.jpg

Remember that names, labels don't have any meaning until YOU attach it. Illuminati means "those who are illuminated with knowledge". But seriously man, what's with all the laughter? First you call me fat, than you call me a high school student. Wrong on both occasions. Limited perception leads to easy deception...BTW the NWO just had a conference here in Montreal. Ever heard of the bilderburg gruop?

Do you know the term master of puppets? Or do you think it was just some fad? The reason why most people aren't waking up as easily is because they are left-brain prisoners. I can give you tonnes of facts, and information - but there is no point if you can't process it. I bet if I told you I practice telekinesis, and remote viewing - you'd call me crazy.

Check this out man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDa7B9ucFg Seems like some TV stations are finally waking up. Also shows survivors. Why would survivors of 911, lie? It's there families who were killed. Come on, use some friggin sense you don't always need damn physical "facts" but use your intuition. Yet we will believe Bush, Obama, MCain, Clinton and on and on? It's there great influence, eh? Am I right? Bush tought us to scoff at conspiracies. But the hundreds of architects, scientists, ex-government officials, 911 survivors, are conspiracy nuts am I right? The people of this world are paranoid freaks, they are not trying to save humanity, right? We are in the amidst of a paradigm shift.

- A 1995 card game, look it up and you'll learn some interesting facts.

there was a level on microsoft flight simulator 95 in which the task was to fly a plane in between the trade centers, and with difficult settings you would normally crash into one of towers.

therefore, Bill Gates masterminded the 911 attacks.

/thread

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi therefore, Bill Gates masterminded the 911 attacks. /thread

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve Sigh, it's very complex. I used to be in the exact same boat as you, yuiki. It's been over a year that I have slowly been waking up, I didn't "get it" over night.

Get what exactly? That everyone is 'blind' & you have unveiled your eyes and see the truth?-- being that 9/11 was a conspiracy...??

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Albert Einstein on left-brain imprisonment: 'The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.'

Yea, I agree with him, & I could use that statement for all the 9/11 truthers as well

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When I mean they, I mean the shadows behind the government. It's called a pyramid power structure. This has been set in society for hundreds of years, if not thousands and dates all the way back to Babylon (currently Iraq).

Okay, so we finally have a figure to point the finger at {pyramid power structure}- so give me some names? I want to know who's the great 'ol mastermind that's behind coming up with a scheme to go through with a terrorist attack & thinks it somehow advances his/her objectives/NWO.

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Remember that names, labels don't have any meaning until YOU attach it. Illuminati means "those who are illuminated with knowledge". But seriously man, what's with all the laughter? First you call me fat, than you call me a high school student. Wrong on both occasions. Limited perception leads to easy deception...BTW the NWO just had a conference here in Montreal. Ever heard of the bilderburg gruop?

Lol, yeah I know what Illuminiati means & what they're objectives were. From the way you were developing your position- it really made me relate a fat fantasy nerd/highschooler to your posts i mean- how the hell is a stupid 1995 card supposed to relate to this???!1

So... this 'Illuminati' KNOWS how to lead the WORLD & so they have been the masterminds behind several important events & to further their objectives they oh so secretly created a game card depicting a building getting nuked by terrorists.

I'm sorry dude, but that just seems too mediocre for me.. I'm sure people, and those who CHOOSE to believe what they WANT to believe- could come up with a million little interesting facts & coincidences..

I'm eating watermelon, the juice I leave behind from it is red, people that died covered in their blood, blood is red. SHIT. WATERMELON = RED = DEATH. omggg. conspiracy!!!! ...

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Do you know the term master of puppets? Or do you think it was just some fad? The reason why most people aren't waking up as easily is because they are left-brain prisoners. I can give you tonnes of facts, and information - but there is no point if you can't process it. I bet if I told you I practice telekinesis, and remote viewing - you'd call me crazy.

yes, i know the term 'master of puppets.' Explain to me more about this 'left-brain prisoners.' I don't see how it's supposed to make me finally SEE the truth.. and yes, if you told me you practice telekinesis i would think you are crazy or you watch too much Heroes.

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Check this out man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDa7B9ucFg Seems like some TV stations are finally waking up.

Dude, videos & documentaries hold the producer/directors opinion.. just bc there's a video on it doesn't mean its reliable or true. To me it was all just propaganda for their vids & they were even talking about 'Loose Change' .. lol Sorry- I found that as realistic as Lipozene.

I took this for you Peg.



you can't just say it's a simple coincidence that TODAY we're talking about coincidences and TODAY i took this pic & the colors on my tank are THE SAME as those of the furniture in the background.

what will this world come to???!!1

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Originally posted by yukii I took this for you Peg. you can't just say it's a simple coincidence that TODAY we're talking about coincidences and TODAY i took this pic & the colors on my tank are THE SAME as those of the furniture in the background. what will this world come to???!!1

What furniture?

I can only see the similarity to the carpet.

Now stop posting pictures of your sister!

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve Sigh, it's very complex. I used to be in the exact same boat as you, yuiki. It's been over a year that I have slowly been waking up, I didn't "get it" over night. Albert Einstein on left-brain imprisonment: 'The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.' When I mean they, I mean the shadows behind the government. It's called a pyramid power structure. This has been set in society for hundreds of years, if not thousands and dates all the way back to Babylon (currently Iraq). http://thebiggestsecretpict.online....d_structure.jpg http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.co...dom/pyramid.jpg Remember that names, labels don't have any meaning until YOU attach it. Illuminati means "those who are illuminated with knowledge". But seriously man, what's with all the laughter? First you call me fat, than you call me a high school student. Wrong on both occasions. Limited perception leads to easy deception...BTW the NWO just had a conference here in Montreal. Ever heard of the bilderburg gruop? Do you know the term master of puppets? Or do you think it was just some fad? The reason why most people aren't waking up as easily is because they are left-brain prisoners. I can give you tonnes of facts, and information - but there is no point if you can't process it. I bet if I told you I practice telekinesis, and remote viewing - you'd call me crazy. Check this out man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDa7B9ucFg Seems like some TV stations are finally waking up. Also shows survivors. Why would survivors of 911, lie? It's there families who were killed. Come on, use some friggin sense you don't always need damn physical "facts" but use your intuition. Yet we will believe Bush, Obama, MCain, Clinton and on and on? It's there great influence, eh? Am I right? Bush tought us to scoff at conspiracies. But the hundreds of architects, scientists, ex-government officials, 911 survivors, are conspiracy nuts am I right? The people of this world are paranoid freaks, they are not trying to save humanity, right? We are in the amidst of a paradigm shift. - A 1995 card game, look it up and you'll learn some interesting facts.

Oh, the Illuminati. That explains EVERYTHING!

Who is "they" and what crime are you accusing them of committing?

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Originally posted by yukii I took this for you Peg. you can't just say it's a simple coincidence that TODAY we're talking about coincidences and TODAY i took this pic & the colors on my tank are THE SAME as those of the furniture in the background. what will this world come to???!!1

Irrelevant since i have proof that your top doesn't match not just the furniture but anything in that room at all! And the government has doctored the proof about 911 just as you have doctored your pic to show that your top matches the furniture, which according to my pic it doesn't at all! begone with your lies woman, the clear minded folk sees trough yours and the government's deception and we will not be kept silent!!! THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT!!!

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