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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by PegCityEvolve
You just did bro. Go support the liars than. It's really sad that you can only add negativity, shows how great of a life you have. Just being a flamer on forums, flaming people for researching things, yet does absolutely nothing himself.

Creation and evolution co-exist. We are the creators, evolving constantly. Tyranny doesn't deserve respect, my friend. Believe in NWO? Lol, get you head out from under that rock. They say it openly now. New World Order. Being a NWO denier is no different than a holocaust denier (never loked into the holocaust, though...don't care enough too).


whatever you say man!


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 01:44:

i'm slowly losing interest. how could anyone in their right mind deny things like 9/11 (where the fuck are the buildings then) or the holocaust (how the hell was i able to go inside a concentration camp & see the bundles of shoes & the beds they slept on) yet, by opening our third eye & releasing our chakra we can fully understand the world and see chris angels true magic.



*sigh* i had such a hard day today. i dont feel like debating worth shit


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by yukii
i'm slowly losing interest.


well, i DID warn you its the same stuff, albeit from different people. same lies, same awful logic, same arrogant superiority complexes.

the wonderful thing is though that as soon as you turn off the internet, these people disappear. there are very few of these morons in real life, thank god!


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by PegCityEvolve
Too much Harry Potter my friend.

I feel too sorry for you.


And what exactly is wrong with Harry Potter?


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 01:56:

lol. as soon as you turn off the internet, their GONE! haha that made me laugh.
although true, i really do prefer debating with people face to face. mano a mano. (idk lol). it's more feisty & i never stop [kinky] but online.. i just get tired of looking at retarded bias links or youtube vids people not answer questions like THE CREATOR crap.. alskjflkjff.. *frustration* .. okay. soo. someone should post a new topic to debate. if i hear 9/11 i think i will have an aneurysm


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 01:57:

The new topic is now Harry Potter and how much the third movie pwns the rest of the films.


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
And what exactly is wrong with Harry Potter?


chyeah!!!! wuts wrong?!?!?!!!!!1!1





he's hot :3


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 02:00:

sorry, being a nerd and having quite the love for mages i can't stand harry potter. old school DnD all the way!


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:00:


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Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 02:10:

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lebez, idk if i can keep going. just looking at these pix make me feel these feelings in my body that are weird & i've never felt before!


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:13:

I don't know what you're talking about.



I'm not much older than her, so I don't feel terribly weird saying this, but you could tell from the first movie that she was going to be hot as hell.


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 02:19:

fine. you force me to keep looking at these pix.
& yeah, i agree. she is hot.



he's perfectly my age


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:23:


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 02:29:

Id be focusing on the acting talent rather than the primary-school prose of rowling�s books too.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the primary-school prose of rowling�s books too.


Them's fighting words dungeon boy.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Them's fighting words dungeon boy.


well, i only managed to get about 80 pages into the first book. but it read like it was written for 4th graders, by 4th graders


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:38:

I'll give you this. The language used is rather elementary, but it's very purposeful. Rowling isn't naive - she knows that to make the books as widely popular as possible she has to make it both accessible and appealing to all audiences. To do that, the prose has to be somewhat simple.

What's remarkable about the books is the way that the characters develop and the story progresses between each volume. In other words, the continuity in the series is what makes it more than an entertaining foray into kid's stories about magic. The first two books are also fairly innocuous; the really neat thing she's done is have the books grow up with the characters. In other words, as Harry gets older, so too does the content. By the time you're at Book 6 and 7, it's very hard to claim that they're aimed at children anymore at all. The content is rather dark, and at times you get the feeling that Sartre would have been proud to call the work his own. Rowling does a good job of embedding existential questions into teenage coming-of-age angst. All this, of course, delivered in a semi-entertaining package with light humor spread throughout, and it's no wonder she moved copies.

That said, similar series of books such as "His Dark Materials" by Philip Pullman, which I still contest that you would really like, stand better on their own as more meaningful complex works. But even The Golden Compass and The Subtle Knife don't segue into one another as well as the Harry Potter books seem to. Rowling had a definite progression in mind, and the tantalizing way she strings the reader along in the first few years/books makes the climax and denouement all the more enjoyable.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, i only managed to get about 80 pages into the first book. but it read like it was written for 4th graders, by 4th graders


Yeah, I know you don't want to hear this, but you should really reserve judgment until the third book. That's when Rowling really begins to let the story unfold. See the above post for more about how she adopts more adult content with each new iteration in the series.


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 02:47:

+2 for lebez.

even tho i feel kinda infantile reading these books, i have to be frank and say that while i read them, im enjoying their plot.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2009 02:49:

yeah, that's probably all true but i'd never be able to get over the trivial way that magic is treated in her books. riding broomsticks for sport ffs? i like my mages with elves and warring royal families and gods


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:51:

Also, on my summer to-do list is to re-read all the Narnia books to see if they're as good as remembered. Lewis was supposed to be fairly adept at hiding hidden meaning in basic fantastical plotlines. And the whole metaphor-for-religion in children's literature thing is a good complementary piece to Pullman's metaphor-for-atheism in children's literature thing.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-12-2009 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, that's probably all true but i'd never be able to get over the trivial way that magic is treated in her books. riding broomsticks for sport ffs? i like my mages with elves and warring royal families and gods


Oh, there's plenty of war and dark magic. But that mostly comes after Book 5.

And I'm sorry magic is too serious a subject for you to enjoy Harry Potter.


Posted by yukii on Jun-12-2009 02:58:

i can't believe you pkc, you of all people .. wat book did you try reading? books after 3 are good like lebez says.. i didnt like book 1-2 much.. maybe thats why you got turned off.

i lovvvved reading the chronicles of narnia! i always wanted to buy the set .. i felt like such a newb when it came out on movie & i was secretly excited haha.


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