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Originally posted by SebG I train almost everyday with wed off for the body to rest. I seperate muscle groups on adifferent day For instance Monday i did my back, + cardio and abs Tuesday chest, cardio + abs Today off Thursday i will do tri/bi's + cardio and abs Friday I will do Shoulders + cardio and abs. I am starting to do legs again so i will probably incorporate this into a shoulder day or just go on saturday. I Do 3 sets of each exercise with the last set till failure. Im on On Whey protein and creatine monohydrate and clenbuterol (not recommended cause its dangerous if you dont know how to take it, its a fat burner btw ) Yesterday i broke into 95lbs dumbelll flat bench press (2 dumbells in each head doing a bench press) I will break into 100's in few weeks. 120 is the max in my gym. I absolutely love working out. Im more focused towards cutting down to 15% body fat, im at 21.5 right now.

looks good mate. Only thing I would question is why do you train abs so much? Most peeps agree you should train them just like any other muscle with recovery days.

Seb - if you're trying to cut body fat i'd suggest leaving creatine out of the mix. also, why do abs every day? should use that energy to do more cardio if you're cutting weight :P

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY looks good mate. Only thing I would question is why do you train abs so much? Most peeps agree you should train them just like any other muscle with recovery days.

I agree with the abs, i should take it down to 2 days.

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Originally posted by Excess Seb - if you're trying to cut body fat i'd suggest leaving creatine out of the mix. also, why do abs every day? should use that energy to do more cardio if you're cutting weight :P

I dont believe in changing my weight lifting technique and supplements for cutting.

Can you please provide the reason why i should cut out creatine? Is it because of how much water it takes?

oh i love it...honesty comes out

sarcasm detector? nigga please don't act like i haven't been around and know the difference when sarcasm is sarcasm and when someone swears up and down that the only way to do shit properly is by your word.

again..fuck out of here with your bullshit, stay humble because when you actually are, you might even be able to contribute to someone who is struggling with losing weight. and if you only in it to boast about how hardcore your training is, you ain't doing anything but making yourself look dumb.

and in regards to your dumb ass responses...YOU DOING IT WRONG, you should be throwing up for every time you press the submit button in order to post here.

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Originally posted by SebG I dont believe in changing my weight lifting technique and supplements for cutting. Can you please provide the reason why i should cut out creatine? Is it because of how much water it takes?

yep all you're doing is retaining water for muscle growth and as you said your goal is to make it down to a certain body fat percentage. though, what you could try doing is when your around your mark drop creatine. after a few days your body will have rid itself of the water and be back to normal. then weigh yourself and test your body fat and see whats up

just my two cents, i havent researched the effects of creatine with anything other than just straight building muscle

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Originally posted by SebG I dont believe in changing my weight lifting technique and supplements for cutting. Can you please provide the reason why i should cut out creatine? Is it because of how much water it takes?

Creatine makes you retain water. It can be hard on the kidneys and stomach as well. I agree to drop the creatine since it really does nothing. Only supplements anyone needs would be a multi-vitamin with minerals, and Whey. If you have a known deficiency then that would be a needed supp, but other than that, it's all about the food you eat. After you get your diet set, then u can play around with macro timing.

to add, if your goal is to drop weight/fat...look into ketosis. Works unbelievably well for muscle retention while you lose fat and you lose it quickly. I use it everytime I cut.

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Originally posted by Excess yep all you're doing is retaining water for muscle growth and as you said your goal is to make it down to a certain body fat percentage. though, what you could try doing is when your around your mark drop creatine. after a few days your body will have rid itself of the water and be back to normal. then weigh yourself and test your body fat and see whats up just my two cents, i havent researched the effects of creatine with anything other than just straight building muscle

Thanks, yeah on the jug it says to drink plenty of water. I dont want to loose a lot of muscle during cutting.

To be honest, i realy dont care how much i weight, i care more for body fat.

Right now im at 6'1 225 with 21.5 % body fat, actually i made that measurement last friday.

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Originally posted by SebG Thanks, yeah on the jug it says to drink plenty of water. I dont want to loose a lot of muscle during cutting. To be honest, i realy dont care how much i weight, i care more for body fat. Right now im at 6'1 225 with 21.5 % body fat, actually i made that measurement last friday.

enough protein and lots of sleep should prevent lots of muscle loss. you may not gain muscle as quick as you usually do but thats because of the amount of cardio you should be doing.

as far as creatine goes, creatine only makes your body retain water so that muscle has more room to grow in. it's the protein that actually makes the muscle rebuild in size. however, i can't imagine retaining water is a good thing when trying to cut weight

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Creatine makes you retain water. It can be hard on the kidneys and stomach as well. I agree to drop the creatine since it really does nothing. Only supplements anyone needs would be a multi-vitamin with minerals, and Whey. If you have a known deficiency then that would be a needed supp, but other than that, it's all about the food you eat. After you get your diet set, then u can play around with macro timing. to add, if your goal is to drop weight/fat...look into ketosis. Works unbelievably well for muscle retention while you lose fat and you lose it quickly. I use it everytime I cut.

Im pretty good with the food now. Its mostly lean protein as in chicken breast or fish with vegetables, i take fish oil.

Basically i got my bases covered with low carb high protein diet.

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Originally posted by Excess enough protein and lots of sleep should prevent lots of muscle loss. you may not gain muscle as quick as you usually do but thats because of the amount of cardio you should be doing. as far as creatine goes, creatine only makes your body retain water so that muscle has more room to grow in. it's the protein that actually makes the muscle rebuild in size. however, i can't imagine retaining water is a good thing when trying to cut weight

Thats true

thats why they say, Eat eat clean, lift sleep and repeat

Going to the gym after a wake and bake takes efffffoooorrrrt.

Give this a read! If you are carb addicted, this may not work for you, but damn does it ever work! Most BB'ers use this diet to get shredded.

The Ketogenic Diet

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Give this a read! If you are carb addicted, this may not work for you, but damn does it ever work! Most BB'ers use this diet to get shredded. The Ketogenic Diet

i read about it before, but neverreally looked into it

Im fairly good with carbs, i have no problems staying off of it

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Give this a read! If you are carb addicted, this may not work for you, but damn does it ever work! Most BB'ers use this diet to get shredded. The Ketogenic Diet

I have a buddy who lives like that because he can't work out due to complications from hemophilia. The only way he can stay relatively lean is to force himself into ketosis.

I guess I am a little late in this thread. Currently 6'1 230, around 8% bf. Been bodybuilding for 6 years. Try to stay away from carbs on non-workout days (cycle carbs), workout days I only eat carbs in the am, pre-workout, and postworkout.

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Originally posted by eger I guess I am a little late in this thread. Currently 6'1 230, around 8% bf. Been bodybuilding for 6 years. Try to stay away from carbs on non-workout days (cycle carbs), workout days I only eat carbs in the am, pre-workout, and postworkout.

That's what I mainly do. My carb source is a bowl of oats, mixed with 2 scoops of whey. My favorite thing to eat, along with gallons of whole egg and egg whites.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY That's what I mainly do. My carb source is a bowl of oats, mixed with 2 scoops of whey. My favorite thing to eat, along with gallons of whole egg and egg whites.

i tried the whole whey in my oatmeal thing...didnt like it lol. prefer to keep them seperated from now on :P

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY That's what I mainly do. My carb source is a bowl of oats, mixed with 2 scoops of whey. My favorite thing to eat, along with gallons of whole egg and egg whites.

Same here! Most of my Carbs come from Oats, Sweet Potatos, and veggies, and I keep a jar of Natty Peanut Butter at my desk (people think I am nuts).

I've been buying egg whites at Costco in bulk. 8 cartons for $10.

I eat the same thing day in day out, except one day on the weekend I have my Carb up day.

It's difficult getting your diet down, eat too much carbs to bulk up I get fat, eat too little carbs to Cut and I lose muscle.

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Originally posted by eger I guess I am a little late in this thread. Currently 6'1 230, around 8% bf. Been bodybuilding for 6 years. Try to stay away from carbs on non-workout days (cycle carbs), workout days I only eat carbs in the am, pre-workout, and postworkout.

fucking beasty, 230 at 8% daaaaammnnn

I never tried egg whites from a carton, do u drink it like that or cook it?

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Originally posted by eger Same here! Most of my Carbs come from Oats, Sweet Potatos, and veggies, and I keep a jar of Natty Peanut Butter at my desk (people think I am nuts). I've been buying egg whites at Costco in bulk. 8 cartons for $10. I eat the same thing day in day out, except one day on the weekend I have my Carb up day. It's difficult getting your diet down, eat too much carbs to bulk up I get fat, eat too little carbs to Cut and I lose muscle.

Right on bro, that's my kitchen right there!! For the natty peanut butter, have you tried Skippy? That shit rocks!

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Originally posted by Excess i tried the whole whey in my oatmeal thing...didnt like it lol. prefer to keep them seperated from now on :P

Give this whey a shot on the next purchase:

Dymatize chocolate is like crack Best flavor I have had yet and tastes soooo good in oats.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Right on bro, that's my kitchen right there!! For the natty peanut butter, have you tried Skippy? That shit rocks! Give this whey a shot on the next purchase: Dymatize chocolate is like crack Best flavor I have had yet and tastes soooo good in oats.

I have a jar of Skippy Natural sitting right next to me

I have that exact same whey too!

Lately I have been ordering from Trueprotein.com, love the banana flavored stuff.

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Originally posted by SebG I never tried egg whites from a carton, do u drink it like that or cook it?

always cook your eggs. the protein is in a form the body can utilize best, along with being a bit more sanitary. I scramble my eggs/whites and pour salsa over it.

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Originally posted by SebG I never tried egg whites from a carton, do u drink it like that or cook it?

Cook it, but you can also put it in Protein shakes and drink it raw. It has no flavor and is pasteurized. It has the consistancy of snot, so I prefer not to drink it straight.

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