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Posted by Gauss on Mar-03-2005 22:37:

Since you need triceps for chest training and biceps for back training, do it like this:

- Chest and biceps
- Back and triceps
- Legs and shoulders

Do abs 1-2 times a week.


Posted by Michael19 on Mar-03-2005 22:40:

it wa posted here before that chest and biceps is a bad combination.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-03-2005 22:48:

Yeah dunno where Gauss is coming from everything ive read says do chest and back. If youre eating right and taking the appropriate day off between routines, you shouldnt have any energy problems whatsoever. Id stick with the classic


chest back
bi tri shoulder
legs



Today:

Squats:
1x15 115
1x10 135
1x10 175
1x6 195
1x10 135

Deadlift:
1x15 80 (first time doin em was getting feel )
1x12 90
1x12 100

On stomach hamstring machine:
1x15 40
1x12 60
1x12 70
1x8 70
1x6 50 (was pooping out!)

Seated calf raise:
4x15 35

Standing 45 degree hack squat machine
1x12 90
3x10 140

Kneeling rope crunch:
1x15 130
2x15 140

on rope crunches we go down and as soon as it is locked and unmoving partner counts "one one thousand" so makes it pretty brutal hehe.

at an entire box of pasta last night and had a LOT of energy today! We used You Go I Go routine where it was super fast sets. Proper form...I was sweating my ass off and throwing up into my mouth a lil bit hehe. One of the best workouts ever had hands down! its just gettin better and better. im loving leg stuff and having Rage Against the Machine screaming in your ears helps pump you up and take it easier. I was grunting like an idiot but if I hadnt been I wouldnt have been able to do it lol. My abs got a hell of a work out from hack squat machine!!!


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-03-2005 22:51:

i've done just about every combination and really it comes down to what your preferences are. i don't like doing an arm with a pec because you won't be able to do as much weight when your arms are worn out...i dunno...do whatever you want...


Posted by Michael19 on Mar-03-2005 22:55:

stick with that then. thanks


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-03-2005 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Seated calf raise:
4x15 35


orbax you wanna know why i got bigger calves then you? it's because i do 4 45 lbs plates on seated calf raise hehehe gotta get that weight up there my friend!!


Posted by Orbax on Mar-03-2005 23:16:

hehe no way i can do that yet. ....at all. I used to do 2 45s but I wasnt able to complete the motion and get that ball feeling up top. Working up though ive only been doing legs for a week


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-03-2005 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
hehe no way i can do that yet. ....at all. I used to do 2 45s but I wasnt able to complete the motion and get that ball feeling up top. Working up though ive only been doing legs for a week


well i'm sure you'll start seeing results soon...legs are usually pretty easy to get some size on hehehe...


Posted by Orbax on Mar-03-2005 23:22:

i dont want to lose the super defined calves though *cries*



that vertical shadow is from something else but that 45degree one is alll me

but yeah...they need to be about twice their current size at least lol.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-03-2005 23:27:

if i can get up to 16 inch calf by the end of the contest...i'll be happy hehehe...


Posted by Orbax on Mar-03-2005 23:36:

haha yeah i need to break the 12 inch barrier first


Posted by diego on Mar-03-2005 23:58:

now 198lbs, only 12lbs more till my goal


Posted by Gauss on Mar-04-2005 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Yeah dunno where Gauss is coming from everything ive read says do chest and back. If youre eating right and taking the appropriate day off between routines, you shouldnt have any energy problems whatsoever. Id stick with the classic


Err, I'm a member of some bodybuilding forum on which some people are even pro. Like 5-10 of them.
Though I'm just recreative.
I'll belive them over you. No hard feelings.
They say chest and back in one day is rediculous and you simply can't do a quality training that way.
And what's wrong with chest and biceps?
When you train chest, triceps gets tired along with chest, and then biceps is ready for training.
When you train back, biceps gets tired along with back, and then triceps is ready for training.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-04-2005 00:54:

Aye, mate, pretty much all of us know someone. My best friend Mike Livingston just took overall state champ of Washington

Blast your biceps till you cant even curl a 15 and then tell me how much you can bench

and if you want to really be hard core about it your week should be

Chest
Back
Biceps triceps
legs
shoulders

but whaddya gonna do!


Posted by Orbax on Mar-04-2005 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
now 198lbs, only 12lbs more till my goal


hehe youre ridiculously huge. Whats your diet been for weight gain?


Posted by Gauss on Mar-04-2005 00:58:

Always do a bigger muscle group first.

First shoulders, then calves.
First chest, then biceps.
First quadriceps, then hamstrings.
First back, then triceps.

That's my training, 4 times a week (monday, tuesday, thursday, friday).


Posted by Orbax on Mar-04-2005 01:06:

I know but I dont like supersetting my chest workouts so i can superset another smaller muscle. I do muscle1, muscle2, muscle1, muscle2...

Its been working out all right, but this last 2 weeks that ive been working out with my brother...I realized I havent been working out at all over last year! These next 4 months are gonna be amazing for me and Ive stopped drinking and am really going strict on myself now. Im still nauseous from my work out 5 hours ago hehehe...

but, Like Masonious said in other thread, every body reacts differently to different things. Ive got a pretty decent back going on so I dont have to spend too much time on it. Rock climbing gave me lots of back strength hehe.

Pretty much, i know IM not at anywhere near competition level and maybe in 2 months or so I might have to change my routine to start accomodating longer more exhausting workouts.

I like using dumb bells a lot so biceps and chest on same day would kill me (literally) unless i just took breaks and let heart beat and pump die between chest sets.

Im moving to barbell based with a spotter so ill probably give a biceps chest day a try in a week or so cuz i dont like discounting others' opinions. For beginners though, i usually like to stick people to a generic 3 day split

Oh and since youre a part of this thread now pics and stats! Become a TA workouteteer! you in for that most improved challenge that ends June 1?! Its gonna be fun!


Posted by Gauss on Mar-04-2005 01:15:

Btw, while I'm here, let me tell somethings about myself.

I'm training since 27th september 2004, so that's 5 months right now, but first 2 months weren't serious. At all.
I'm 15, current weight is 60 kg (133 lbs) and current height is 173 cm (~5'9''), but I'm sure I'll grow more.
I started eating healthy food at the end of december 2004 and I'm training more seriously for ~3 months now (with training plan and such).
Only supplements I'm using are whey proteins, 30 grams after each training, and glucose (via grape sugar), 30-40 grams after each training, but I'll raise that to 50-60 grams after each training (glucose).
So far I have used one whey protein package of 500 grams, tomorrow I'm going to buy a new one.
My goal is to look fit, and that's about it. Recreative fitness.

Measurements:

Calves: 34 cm (13.6'')
Quads: 50 cm (20'')
Biceps: 31 cm (12.4'')
Waist: 70 cm (28'')
Chest: 85 cm (34'')

As for the pictures, I don't have a web or digital camera.
Though I'll see what I can do, my friend has one so maybe I can borrow it.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-04-2005 01:27:

Good start man! Sounds like a darn good plan. Ive been talking to a lot of women lately and they keep telling me emphatically DONT GET ANY BIGGER!!! so many women dont like huge huge guys haha they get scared or something. Im gonna get bigger anyway but realize girls dont like muscles that reach out and strangle you in a fit of rage

whoa that wsa a fuckign tangent. Anyway Cheers! good to have yah.


Posted by Gauss on Mar-04-2005 01:31:

That's the reason I'm aiming for recreative fitness, not bodybuilding.
Girls like when guys are fit and have muscles, but in limits of course.
Btw, they're not scared... It's just that too big muscles look bad in most cases.
Well, they don't have to look bad, they can actually look very good.
But from what I've seen, too big muscles are repulsive to girls. In most cases.
If you know what I mean.

Btw, I'm going to sleep. It's late over here in Europe (GMT+1).
Good night.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-04-2005 01:43:

hehe aye. I do it more for the approbation of my amigos lol. Women dont understand that in the world of men and protecting people, its usually nice to have some mass to yah...women sigh.


Posted by Kooshtie on Mar-04-2005 03:10:

whoah the poosee is still jerking off to his own images.


Posted by kokanee on Mar-04-2005 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Remiks
whoah the poosee is still jerking off to his own images.


Funny how you're always posting about Orbax's pictures - maybe you are a little infatuated with them, but really trying to deny it by pretending to mock him Dude, it's okay, let your feelings out.

Back on topic, I'm hoping to start hitting them gym again on Monday - been putting it off the past little while due to sheer laziness and being sick I'd be interested in an official entry into the Fitness Challenge as well - don't think I can be as hard-core as some of you guys.

Our gym on campus is always packed almost all times of the day so I'm thinking of maybe getting my work-outs in before classes in the morning, probably about 8am. Any idea's on any killer energy foods to take for those morning work outs?

kokanee


Posted by Masonious on Mar-04-2005 03:41:

quote:
Funny how you're always posting about Orbax's pictures - maybe you are a little infatuated with them, but really trying to deny it by pretending to mock him Dude, it's okay, let your feelings out.




Posted by Ygrene on Mar-04-2005 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by kokanee
Any idea's on any killer energy foods to take for those morning work outs?



Lolz. I remember when i was on campus and I used to lift before class at 5:30a. I would eat a can of tuna, three small bags of baked Lays, and drink a 20oz Diet Coke.

Those were the days!

But seriously, if you can get ahold of some bagels, they make a pretty good practical snack that you can take with you. I used to do that also and then stop at a mini-mart on campus and get a small lofat milk pre-workout. It wasn't the ideal meal but, it worked.


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