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i think losing like that makes it harder to take - if we didnt have bad luck we wouldnt have any luck at all
even though I'm enjoying the result, i'm far more happy that there's a good contest happening. 3 day games, wins by hundred's of runs are not very interesting. this is great to watch.
Yeah no matter how much I troll and whoever wins, its still kicked massive ass so far - the next test will be brilliant but I'll miss most of it as I'll be in Germany 
lol, how easy some of you forget the last 15 years. Anyway we have been outplayed so far, that's for sure. But even so England have won two tests by 3 wickets and two runs. Hardly dominating.
Can't wait for the final test. 
some news
Ponting and Katich fined for outbursts
Cricinfo staff
August 29, 2005
Ricky Ponting states his case to Aleem Dar � Getty Images
Ricky Ponting was fined 75% of his A$12,500 match fee and Simon Katich was docked half following ugly outbursts during Australia's second innings at Trent Bridge. The pair attended a hearing last night after the narrow three-wicket loss that gave England a 2-1 series lead.
Ponting was in trouble after reacting angrily after being run out on Saturday by the substitute Gary Pratt's direct hit for 48. Katich, who made 59, was fined for dissent for his behaviour following an lbw decision given by Aleem Dar.
Ranjan Madugalle, the match referee, found Ponting guilty of breaching rule C2 of the ICC code of conduct which states that "players and/or officials shall at no time engage in conduct unbecoming to their status which could bring them or the game of cricket into disrepute". Katich was charged under rule 2.2, which covers serious dissent at an umpire's decision by action or verbal abuse.
Throughout the series Australia have been concerned by England's use of substitute fielders, which they believe are a way of giving the home side's quick bowlers a rest. Pratt was replacing the fast bowler Simon Jones, who was off the field with a right ankle injury.
As he waited for the third umpire's decision on Saturday, Ponting sounded off and also talked to Dar. Then when he walked up the pavilion steps Ponting appeared to let fly with some angry words in the direction of the England dressing room.
Ponting released a statement apologising for his behaviour. "I was disappointed with my dismissal given that it was a crucial stage of the game and I'd worked hard to get to that position," Ponting said. "I let myself down with my reaction and for that I apologise to those who see me as a role model. My frustration at getting out was compounded by the fact that I was run out by a substitute fielder, an issue that has concerned us from the start of this series and one we raised before the series."
Substitutes are generally only allowed if players are ill or injured. However, according to the Laws of Cricket, it is the umpires who have the responsibility for letting substitutes take the field and the opposing captain has no right of appeal.
Replays of Katich's dismissal showed Steve Harmison's delivery had pitched outside the left-hander's leg-stump and that the ball would have also gone over the top.
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So basically the umpires are too gutless to confront England about it?
Isn't the 12th Man supposed to be the replacement in the field, or was he already on?
thats the complaint, that they have 12th man and then they still bring in all these other players as well.
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| Originally posted by Philby thats the complaint, that they have 12th man and then they still bring in all these other players as well. |
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| Originally posted by Ghostface So basically the umpires are too gutless to confront England about it? Isn't the 12th Man supposed to be the replacement in the field, or was he already on? |
P> Doctor doctor, I have a cricket ball up my arse
D> How's that?
P> Don't you start!
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| Originally posted by Ian^ our '12th man' is chosen at the start of the day from the county teams who don't have a game. Pratt who ran out Ponting was in the field for a day as that, and doing other duties before, but on Sunday he had to play for his county side so Penney became the 12th man (funny thing is he's actually from zimbabwe lol) Pratt ran ponting out while Simon Jones was in the hospital having scans on his ankle, and it's the same as Brad Hodge who came on as 12th man for Clarke the match before |
yeah its amazing how your bowlers must be pissing like racehorses all day, but your keeper never has to! iron bladder as well as iron gloves 
good & bad news for Aus
the bad news - forecast is dodgy, they say it's gonna be quite cool (mid teens) so will swing a lot.
the good news - Rudi Koertzen is umpire. this man hates england and always tries to make a statement when umpiring here either by calling bowlers in the danger area, or finding a law noone knew existed to use.
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| Originally posted by Ian^ the good news - Rudi Koertzen is umpire. this man hates england and always tries to make a statement when umpiring here either by calling bowlers in the danger area, or finding a law noone knew existed to use. |
not sure how this pastes, but - bad day at the office for AU
Australia in England, 2005
Essex v Australians
County Ground, Chelmsford
3,4 September 2005 (2-day match)
Result:
Toss: Essex
Umpires: RJ Bailey and P Willey
Close of Play:
# Day 1: Essex 502/4 (Foster 38*, Middlebrook 26*; 105 overs)
Essex 1st innings R M B 4 6
WI Jefferson b Kasprowicz 64 102 73 10 1
AN Cook c Gillespie b Kasprowicz 214 335 238 33 1
RS Bopara b Tait 135 250 220 17 2
ML Pettini c Hayden b Tait 8 15 16 1 0
+JS Foster not out 38 0 61 0 0
JD Middlebrook not out 26 0 30 0 0
Extras (b 4, lb 5, nb 8) 17
Total (4 wickets, 105 overs) 502
To Bat: *RC Irani, TJ Phillips, GR Napier, AP Palladino, A Nel,
J Ahmed.
FoW: 1-140 (Jefferson), 2-410 (Cook), 3-434 (Pettini),
4-441 (Bopara).
Bowling O M R W
Lee 13 0 69 0 (2nb)
Gillespie 22 3 80 0
Tait 15 1 72 2 (3nb)
MacGill 24 0 128 0
Kasprowicz 19 2 85 2 (3nb)
Hodge 12 1 59 0
Australians team:
JL Langer, ML Hayden, SM Katich, BJ Hodge, *+AC Gilchrist,
BJ Haddin, B Lee, JN Gillespie, SW Tait, SCG MacGill,
MS Kasprowicz.
So this thursday, we're going to have Essex vs Australia 
england name squad for Thursday
Collingwood and Anderson called up for England
Cricinfo staff
September 4, 2005
Paul Collingwood and James Anderson have been added to England's squad for the fifth Test at the Oval alongside the eleven who have played every Test this series.
The pair have been included so that the final eleven will be balanced whether Simon Jones plays or not. Jones is continuing to receive treatment on his injured ankle and will be re-assessed by the medical team at practice on Tuesday.
"James Anderson has 'big match' experience with England," said David Graveney, England's chairman of selectors, "and we feel that his inclusion in the squad will give the captain and coach another bowling option in the event of Simon Jones being unfit to play."
Hampshire's Chris Tremlett misses out on a squad place, despite being made in the 12 for the first four Tests - a fact which has, ironically, cost him his place this time. Graveney says that they have left Tremlett because he has not had much match practice in recent weeks. "We feel that he is not at the top of his game at the moment," he said.
England head to the Oval knowing that they need just a draw. Australia need to win to level the series and hence retain the Ashes. Australia, meanwhile, were lifted by the news that Glenn McGrath has declared himself fit for the contest which begins on Thursday.
England suqad Marcus Trescothick, Andrew Strauss, Michael Vaughan (capt), Ian Bell, Kevin Pietersen, Andrew Flintoff, Geraint Jones (wk), Ashley Giles, Steve Harmison, Simon Jones, Matthew Hoggard, Paul Collingwood, James Anderson.
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Why would they change the squad?
The 11 that will take the field will be unchanged though.
surely................
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter Why would they change the squad? The 11 that will take the field will be unchanged though. surely................ |
kinda surprised Australia didn't go with 5 bowlers for this one...............
Common Warne! Peterson gone! hopefully get rid of Flintoff, he's the key now!
Time for our secret masterplan to combat shane warne to come into effect tonight.
Stage One - Get Andrew Symonds to take him out for a few beers
Stage Two - Get a fit blonde with big tits to catch his attention
Stage Three - The woman asks warney if he wants to eat her in a bathtub full of baked beans (which are laced with enough sleeping pills to put him out for say, a week)
Stage Four - Bring out her twin sister, who also wants Warney to eat beans off her body
Mission complete 
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| Originally posted by Ian^ Time for our secret masterplan to combat shane warne to come into effect tonight. Stage One - Get Andrew Symonds to take him out for a few beers Stage Two - Get a fit blonde with big tits to catch his attention Stage Three - The woman asks warney if he wants to eat her in a bathtub full of baked beans (which are laced with enough sleeping pills to put him out for say, a week) Stage Four - Bring out her twin sister, who also wants Warney to eat beans off her body Mission complete |
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| Originally posted by Ian^ Time for our secret masterplan to combat shane warne to come into effect tonight. Stage One - Get Andrew Symonds to take him out for a few beers Stage Two - Get a fit blonde with big tits to catch his attention Stage Three - The woman asks warney if he wants to eat her in a bathtub full of baked beans (which are laced with enough sleeping pills to put him out for say, a week) Stage Four - Bring out her twin sister, who also wants Warney to eat beans off her body Mission complete |
stage 5: distract him with dirty text sms?
none of that! C'MON WARNEY!!!!! on fire!!!
left the airport at 0/80, come home and its 3/115, how good is that hehe
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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Hang on, you're in England. Where are you going to find a fit blonde??? |
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