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Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-19-2008 22:38:

WTF is with the stupid scoring system for womens gymnastics??


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-19-2008 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
WTF is with the stupid scoring system for womens gymnastics??


simple.....its judged by people and people make mistakes...that is why it shouldn't be an olympic event...all human judged events should be removed from the olympics.

The new system is better though....although it does favour difficulty and style and artistic impression in basically lost now....when someone can attempt to do a very difficult routine and fuck up and score a lot higher then someone who does a somewhat less difficult routine perfectly with flare and style....doesn't make sense


Posted by exstasie on Aug-19-2008 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
WTF is with the stupid scoring system for womens gymnastics??


yeah, it was pretty bad lol


Diving is just as bad...


Here is what our CBC announcers kept saying after a CHINESE individual dove...

Paraphrasing...
"The Chinese diver had a decent dive, but the cheers and roar of the crowd usually influence the judges marks and usually gives them 0.5 to 1 point higher than what they should've gotten because the audience thought it was a good dive..."

WTF kind of judging is that??


Posted by smuncky on Aug-20-2008 00:28:

http://100thofasecond.com/


Posted by electro funk on Aug-20-2008 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
http://100thofasecond.com/


phelps did not win that race!


Posted by VDub on Aug-20-2008 01:39:

I'm sorry but Cavic fucked up...

I saw that replay over and over and over and Phelps hit that mark first...

Cavic should've given just one more little kick at the end but instead decided to stretch it out...

Problem is he was coasting and Phelps powered into the wall...

Fair and square...swimmer error...


Posted by loca on Aug-20-2008 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by MKpacha
I appologize for the name calling... I beleive it was Loca who started to be personally defensive... I started by explaining the "Sport" and ended being quite disgrunteld in the way you responded.


Actually I didn't, but that's beside the point. And calling someone ignorant != calling them names IMO but whatever.

I'm done with this "discussion" (and yes Extasie, I see the point you were trying to make, and I agree to an extent only ).


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
I'm done with this "discussion" (and yes Extasie, I see the point you were trying to make, and I agree to an extent only ).


I didn't really care if you agreed or not all I wanted was that you see our point...and since you do...thats good lol

Now that that is over...

BMX!!!

The newest sport just added to Olympics! I love this stuff


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 13:49:

Interesting article about the financial compensation in the olympics

In China, all Olympic medalists are striking gold
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...0820.wolyminc20
"The average Chinese gold-medal winner this month will receive about three million yuan (about $460,000) in prizes and bonuses, according to an article in Titan Sports, a Chinese sports newspaper."


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Aug-20-2008 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
yeah, it was pretty bad lol


Diving is just as bad...



Really? I only watched the Despatie diving competition, and the Chinese guy who got 1st was perfect in every way imaginable. Despatie fucked up here and there, but the other guy was a diving machine. He deserved those scores.

Edit:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
"The average Chinese gold-medal winner this month will receive about three million yuan (about $460,000) in prizes and bonuses, according to an article in Titan Sports, a Chinese sports newspaper."


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-20-2008 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Really? I only watched the Despatie diving competition, and the Chinese guy who got 1st was perfect in every way imaginable. Despatie fucked up here and there, but the other guy was a diving machine. He deserved those scores.


I saw both dive yesterday, while the Chinese guy was flawless, I wouldn't say Despatie was that bad.. I saw the slow motion replay and he was pretty good actually!


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 14:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Really? I only watched the Despatie diving competition, and the Chinese guy who got 1st was perfect in every way imaginable. Despatie fucked up here and there, but the other guy was a diving machine. He deserved those scores.

Edit:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c...FuckingShit.jpg



Yeah, the chinese guy who won deserved it hands down. But there was another Chinese guy who came in 3rd (maybe 4th)...

anyway, they mostly said it on his dives. The judges would give him an 8.5 when he probably would've deserved an 8.0


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Aug-20-2008 14:15:

Pretty good doesn't measure up to perfect, so perfect being first and pretty good being second seems completely fair to me. The judges can't expected to give pity to Despatie just cause he's Canadian, lol.


Posted by kaniz on Aug-20-2008 14:24:

Last night I watched Young People Fucking, and in one scene a girl starts to bitch about the Equestrian sports in the Olympics, using pretty much the exact same argument as Orko, concluding her rant with

"It's like putting midgets onto the shoulders of guys doing the 100 meter dash, then giving the gold metal to the midget"

it reminded me of this thread.


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by kaniz
Last night I watched Young People Fucking, and in one scene a girl starts to bitch about the Equestrian sports in the Olympics, using pretty much the exact same argument as Orko, concluding her rant with

"It's like putting midgets onto the shoulders of guys doing the 100 meter dash, then giving the gold metal to the midget"

it reminded me of this thread.


haha...love the analogy!


PS. Usain BOLT just got the WR in Men's 200M!
This guy is rediculous...and it was his 22nd birthday today too!! Great job for him and Jamaica!


Posted by Swamper on Aug-20-2008 14:58:

Men's 200M final


Posted by PressPLay on Aug-20-2008 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie

PS. Usain BOLT just got the WR in Men's 200M!
This guy is rediculous...and it was his 22nd birthday today too!! Great job for him and Jamaica!



That was the most mindblowing race I've ever witnessed. Michael Phelps who??? King of the Olympics belongs to Usain Bolt with his double win now breaking the 2 most coveted events of the games. Now I'm just hoping the Jamaican relay team shatters the American relay team world record later this week.


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by PressPLay
That was the most mindblowing race I've ever witnessed. Michael Phelps who??? King of the Olympics belongs to Usain Bolt with his double win now breaking the 2 most coveted events of the games. Now I'm just hoping the Jamaican relay team shatters the American relay team world record later this week.


Personally...

Bolt > Phelps in my books..but that's just me lol

If you take his 200M time (19.30) and divide it in half, its on average 9.65seconds per each 100M.

Just imagine what he could've done if he actually ran the entire 100M!

WOW!


Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-20-2008 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by PressPLay
That was the most mindblowing race I've ever witnessed. Michael Phelps who??? King of the Olympics belongs to Usain Bolt with his double win now breaking the 2 most coveted events of the games. Now I'm just hoping the Jamaican relay team shatters the American relay team world record later this week.


haha hater!!

YOu cant compare the two. Guarantee if you put Bolt in a pool he wouldnt swim worth shit, and same for Phelps on the track.


quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
simple.....its judged by people and people make mistakes...that is why it shouldn't be an olympic event...all human judged events should be removed from the olympics.



no offense, but that is the dumbest comment in this thread. YOu would take out one of the worlds oldest sports because its judged? silly.

Gynmastics takes insane amounts strength, serious dedication, endurance, flexibility, artitistry, (etc etc ...add your own words HERE), probably more than most other sports. I can not tell you how impressed I am by some of the things that these atheletes can DO with their bodies, and you are saying it shouldnt be an olympic sport just because the its judged? Fix the system, dont get RID of it.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-20-2008 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
haha hater!!

YOu cant compare the two. Guarantee if you put Bolt in a pool he wouldnt swim worth shit, and same for Phelps on the track.




no offense, but that is the dumbest comment in this thread. YOu would take out one of the worlds oldest sports because its judged? silly.

Gynmastics takes insane amounts strength, serious dedication, endurance, flexibility, artitistry, (etc etc ...add your own words HERE), probably more than most other sports. I can not tell you how impressed I am by some of the things that these atheletes can DO with their bodies, and you are saying it shouldnt be an olympic sport just because the its judged? Fix the system, dont get RID of it.


just because its an old sport that takes insane amounts strength, serious dedication, endurance, flexibility, artitistry doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. Caber Tossing is an even older sport but its not in the olympics.

human error needs to be taken out of the equation. the only possible way to do that is have instant slow motion replay that the judges review. The problem with this is that it would take way too long to get marks.


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
just because its an old sport that takes insane amounts strength, serious dedication, endurance, flexibility, artitistry doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. Caber Tossing is an even older sport but its not in the olympics.

human error needs to be taken out of the equation. the only possible way to do that is have instant slow motion replay that the judges review. The problem with this is that it would take way too long to get marks.


+1

And the only reason why it should not be considered an olympic event (or should be changed) is because that deductions and penalties are based on the judges interpretation of the performance.

It's not really fair to the athlete when one judge scores them an 9 and another judge scores than an 8. It makes it really difficult when there aren't any specific guidelines to what constitutes a deduction, and what doesn't. So the justify they get rid of the lowest and highest scores. But that still doesn't justify that there is a lot of room for ever.

As well, the judges are not allowed to be bias, but it sure is pretty hard not be bias towards certain individuals or countries...

That's all i'm saying.

Also, another thing with the diving, they commentators "well the diver was slightly off there, but since the judges are sitting to the side of the swimmers, they aren't able to see that deduction..."

That is considered fair judging??? How is that even possible for an olympic event. A diver will be able to score better than what they should've just because they judges are sitting in an appropriate position?? (it's across the board, not just for a specific diver).


Posted by PressPLay on Aug-20-2008 20:33:

Just disgusted by the 2 disqualifications in the 200 meters race...




Martina, Spearmon disqualified

* Reuters
* , Wednesday August 20 2008

(Updates with detail, quotes)
By Balazs Koranyi
BEIJING, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Churandy Martina of Netherlands Antilles and Wallace Spearmon of the United States were disqualified after finishing second and third in the Olympic 200 metres final on Wednesday.
Spearmon was the first to be ruled out and Martina followed him, both for stepping out of their lanes on the turn as they chased eventual winner Usain Bolt.
The decisions moved defending champion Shawn Crawford of the U.S. from fourth to second and compatriot Walter Dix took third to match his bronze in the 100m final.
"It feels kind of weird, it feels like a charity case," Crawford told reporters. "It's horrible, it is heart-breaking and I feel his (Spearmon's) pain right now. I hope Usain (Bolt) stepped out too because... that's a gold medal for me."
Spearmon was clearly unhappy.
"It's got to be three steps," he said.
Jamaica's Bolt won the event in world record time of 19.30 seconds, bettering Michael Johnson's 12-year-old mark.
After the disqualifications, Bolt's margin of victory increased to over half of a second, an almost unheard of figure in sprinting events.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7739806


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-20-2008 20:46:

its extremely unfortunate but those are the rules...


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-20-2008 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Pretty good doesn't measure up to perfect, so perfect being first and pretty good being second seems completely fair to me. The judges can't expected to give pity to Despatie just cause he's Canadian, lol.


what lol?
I just agreed with you about Chinese guy, but where did I say the Canadian should have won?


Posted by exstasie on Aug-20-2008 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by timmyboy
its extremely unfortunate but those are the rules...


yup! It does suck, seeing him going from extreme excitement to anger just like that!

But you can't blame anyone else but yourself when you know going into the competition that those are the rules!


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