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Originally posted by malek uhu that's a canadian wet dream... won't happen as long as we have guys like Harper or Dion or maybe even Trudeau jr running for prime ministers.

true.

seems to be by looking at election results both federal and prov in quebec, quebecers are looking for an answer, but quite haven't found exactly what they are looking for because all the politicians are douches

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Originally posted by malek uhu that's a canadian wet dream... won't happen as long as we have guys like Harper or Dion or maybe even Trudeau jr running for prime ministers.

Honestly, I don't blame Quebecers... constantly having the Bloc there to agitate has annoyed the parties that actually can form a government into giving Quebec some small concessions. If you can extort a little bit at a time eventually you'll get what you want.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Honestly, I don't blame Quebecers... constantly having the Bloc there to agitate has annoyed the parties that actually can form a government into giving Quebec some small concessions. If you can extort a little bit at a time eventually you'll get what you want.

is there any other choice? 100+ years of federal govts mostly elected out of Quebec solved nothing to the Quebec question... so many false promises.

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Originally posted by Yohan Interesting. Kitchener used to be a liberal stronghold but cons swept here. Pretty close race though. (And my vote actually made a difference lol)

Peter Kent also finally won for the Conservatives here in Thornhill, which used to be overwhelmingly Liberal. Tories are making inroads into Ontario!

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Originally posted by malek 100+ years of federal govts mostly elected out of Quebec solved nothing to the Quebec question

By "question", you mean "when are we getting more money?"

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Originally posted by MarkT and if a CPC candidate or supporter knocked on my door to seek my support, that's the FIRST question that I would have asked them. "before I even comment on my vote, can you please explain to me the rationale for spending an exhorbitant amount of taxpayer money on an election that none of us wanted or needed, AND despite fixed election date legislation?" the consequent "uh, uh, uh..." would have resulted in me closing my door after asking them to return when they have an answer that was a little less bullshit than Harper's "Parliament is dysfunctional".

I think had the stock market not tanked they would have had a solid chance at a majority...which was probably their thought when calling the election as well.

So the green party won 7% of the popular vote and still couldn�t get a seat? this is why I think our election system is retarded. HIPPIES ARENT ALL IN ONE RIDING!

also, Dion rhymes with �gone�

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Originally posted by DigiNut By "question", you mean "when are we getting more money?"

no, when are we gonna manage our own money without sending it to ottawack

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Originally posted by Skipper I think had the stock market not tanked they would have had a solid chance at a majority...which was probably their thought when calling the election as well. So the green party won 7% of the popular vote and still couldn�t get a seat? this is why I think our election system is retarded. HIPPIES ARENT ALL IN ONE RIDING! also, Dion rhymes with �gone�

I don't know about that...

the economy tanking is probably also the reason that the carbon tax plan proved to be so unpallatable to Candians. The current situation provided the very basis for the CPC "Dion is not worth the risk" campaign, questioning "another tax" for Canadians at this time.

The popular vote has its quirks...but what do you do? Give seats based upon popular vote? there would never be a majority gov't and we'd have unelected officials in Parliament (e.g. no one voted in a Green party memeber, but they would have 7% of the seats? to whom are these MPs directly accountable? Their riding that didn't elect them???)

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Originally posted by malek no, when are we gonna manage our own money without sending it to ottawack

when ottawa don't do download transfer payments to quebec?

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Originally posted by Yohan when ottawa don't do download transfer payments to quebec?

it's our own money from the get go. The latest figure is 43 billion sent to ottawack in 2004, how much came back?

Quebec will be just fine without Ottawack and its chronies.

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Originally posted by MarkT I don't know about that... the economy tanking is probably also the reason that the carbon tax plan proved to be so unpallatable to Candians. The current situation provided the very basis for the CPC "Dion is not worth the risk" campaign, questioning "another tax" for Canadians at this time. The popular vote has its quirks...but what do you do? Give seats based upon popular vote? there would never be a majority gov't and we'd have unelected officials in Parliament (e.g. no one voted in a Green party memeber, but they would have 7% of the seats? to whom are these MPs directly accountable? Their riding that didn't elect them???)

I agree. There is no reason to change our first past the post in local ridings voting system. Having fixed elections is one thing, but I don't favour a proportional representation style of system that Jack Layton yapped about last election and that was defeated handily.

I wonder if Americans create threads and debate our Canadian Federal Elections...

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Originally posted by love_child I wonder if Americans create threads and debate our Canadian Federal Elections...

no, probably not...but what happens in the U.S. means a great deal for Canada (and the rest of the world), whereas what happens here means little for the U.S. (relatively speaking, of course).

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Originally posted by malek no, when are we gonna manage our own money without sending it to ottawack

As soon as Alberta gets to stop sending theirs to you.

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Originally posted by Skipper this is why I think our election system is retarded. HIPPIES ARENT ALL IN ONE RIDING!

Isn't that the point of representative government?

You don't really want a bunch of ragtag voting blocs influencing federal politics.

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Originally posted by DigiNut As soon as Alberta gets to stop sending theirs to you.

nah Ontario and Alberta are making this country run, Quebec is almost even with Ottawack.

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