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Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-28-2010 02:11:

Sweet!

*crotch punch*


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-28-2010 02:29:

*spits in Lews' hair*


Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-28-2010 02:34:

*rubs chewing gum in Lews' hair*


Posted by shaw on Jul-28-2010 02:34:

*pours milk on all of you*


Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-28-2010 02:35:

*crash-tackles shaw*


Posted by shaw on Jul-28-2010 02:39:

*commences skimming*


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-28-2010 02:39:

*farts in shaw's mouth*


Posted by Intellekshual on Jul-28-2010 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
He's been going on and on about how much meat he's consuming and then turns ultra douche-bag on you. Regardless, it was funny.

SYSTEM_J only eats meat. Especially when the animal suffers, makes his steak taste extra delicious.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-28-2010 02:41:

*craps in Jenny's shoes*


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-28-2010 02:42:

*Pours meat juice on the entire thread and its participants.*


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-28-2010 02:43:


Posted by shaw on Jul-28-2010 02:46:

...and that's where Chicken McNuggets come from.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-28-2010 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
...


Really dislike the whole shock-value angle PETA types have taken. I actually do think that there is cruelty to animals that should be stopped and I'm not taking issue with your post, but it did remind me of a couple of TV commercials in which the suffering is over-played for words which would have sufficed.


Posted by FuzzQi on Jul-28-2010 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
[graphic gif lol]



someone chop a carrot into this pic

the irony is not lost on me


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-28-2010 02:58:

PETA has an agenda to suffice, just like everyone else. Maybe you think they go too far (???), but if they are to accomplish even a fraction of their goal, they have to hit people over the head with something blunt just to get them to pay attention.

I do agree that their message can be obfuscated by their tendency to overstate moral absolutes through commercial pursuits, though.


Posted by FuzzQi on Jul-28-2010 02:59:

The Sea Kitten thing really made them look like idiots


Posted by Lews on Jul-28-2010 03:16:

Fuck you all, now I have to take another shower


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jul-28-2010 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Really dislike the whole shock-value angle PETA types have taken. I actually do think that there is cruelty to animals that should be stopped and I'm not taking issue with your post, but it did remind me of a couple of TV commercials in which the suffering is over-played for words which would have sufficed.


+1. exactly

quote:

PETA doesn't want stressed animals to be cruelly crowded into sheds, ankle-deep in their own crap, because they don't want any animals to die - ever - and basically think that chickens should, in time, gain the right to vote. I don't want animals stressed or crowded or treated cruelly or inhumanely because that makes them provably less delicious. And, often, less safe to eat.
Anthony Bourdain from Medium Raw


Posted by fughawzi on Jul-28-2010 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have no problem with people being overweight. It's their body, their health, their life. What I hate is fat people who refuse to take responsibility for their own body. They blame society. They blame the food. They blame their metabolism. They blame their thyroid. They tell healthy people they're too thin, they tell themselves they're normal. The amount of overweight people who tell me I'm unhealthy, I'm too thin, I'm just lucky to have a fast metabolism is frightening. Millions and millions of deluded people, unable to face their own flaws, taking it out on others.

Cunts.


What a bunch of ableist bullshit. God, this forum is so depressing. There are many invisible illnesses that list weight gain as a symptom. A thyroid problem actually does make it harder to lose weight.

I don't know what your problem is, you just keep coming across as an angry extremist about meat. It's like everyone's worst fear about vegans, flipped around. This is so ridiculous.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-28-2010 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by fughawzi
What a bunch of ableist bullshit. God, this forum is so depressing. There are many invisible illnesses that list weight gain as a symptom. A thyroid problem actually does make it harder to lose weight.

I don't know what your problem is, you just keep coming across as an angry extremist about meat. It's like everyone's worst fear about vegans, flipped around. This is so ridiculous.


fatty.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-28-2010 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by fughawzi
What a bunch of ableist bullshit. God, this forum is so depressing. There are many invisible illnesses that list weight gain as a symptom. A thyroid problem actually does make it harder to lose weight.


I know it does, but most people do not have a thyroid problem. Most people do not have any problem. I don't know how anyone can look at the statistics for obesity and then convince themselves they are some medical exception to the rule without ever getting a confirmation from a doctor that they have one of these "invisible illnesses".

Do you happen to be on medication? For anything? Don't second guess the question, just a straight answer will be fine.

quote:
I don't know what your problem is, you just keep coming across as an angry extremist about meat. It's like everyone's worst fear about vegans, flipped around. This is so ridiculous.


I ranted at your boyfriend for insultingly labelling me "lazy and selfish", to which I retaliated in kind against his typically atrophic logical justification.

All my other anger in this thread has had nothing to do with meat or vegetarians or vegans. It has to do with fat people unable to take responsibility. And, as I've already made clear, my reason for that anger is because I've been attacked or criticised by these people all my fucking life for having a healthy bodyweight. My housemates do it to me. My BMI and body fat numbers are fine, but they say "You can't be a healthy weight". I had it from a guy at my last job, who made endless jibes about how skinny I was. The only reason I originally started lifting weights was to get rid of these comments, but that actually seems to have made things worse. The healthier you are, the more bitter their comments.

You can blather about "invisible diseases" all you want, but I know these people, I see what they eat, how much they eat and how little exercise they do. And no matter what the obvious problems are, their logic is always, invariably the same. There are stock phrases that simply make my hackles rise.


Posted by fughawzi on Jul-28-2010 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know it does, but most people do not have a thyroid problem. Most people do not have any problem. I don't know how anyone can look at the statistics for obesity and then convince themselves they are some medical exception to the rule without ever getting a confirmation from a doctor that they have one of these "invisible illnesses".

Do you happen to be on medication? For anything? Don't second guess the question, just a straight answer will be fine.


Yes, I actually have Hashimoto's thyroiditis and am on Synthroid.(Thank you for adding the last sentence, I like when things are clear)


quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All my other anger in this thread has had nothing to do with meat or vegetarians or vegans. It has to do with fat people unable to take responsibility. And, as I've already made clear, my reason for that anger is because I've been attacked or criticised by these people all my fucking life for having a healthy bodyweight. My housemates do it to me. My BMI and body fat numbers are fine, but they say "You can't be a healthy weight". I had it from a guy at my last job, who made endless jibes about how skinny I was. The only reason I originally started lifting weights was to get rid of these comments, but that actually seems to have made things worse. The healthier you are, the more bitter their comments.

You can blather about "invisible diseases" all you want, but I know these people, I see what they eat, how much they eat and how little exercise they do. And no matter what the obvious problems are, their logic is always, invariably the same. There are stock phrases that simply make my hackles rise.


Do people honestly claim that their thyroid is the issue when they don't have a thyroid disorder? I've been wondering why people have been using that when saying that fat people are irresponsible.

Body hate of any kind is horrible and I'm sorry you get that. I can understand how frustrating it is. I don't get the bitterness towards fat or thin people. Not everyone who is thin is starving themselves and not everyone who is fat is an unhealthy slob.

I have many illnesses that would be considered invisible and I have to constantly deal with comments as well, hence my reaction. I get upset when people use thyroid in the context you did because I do have autoimmune diseases that make it hard for me to have any control over my body. I work out four to five times a week and eat the healthiest diet imaginable, but could not lose a pound until I went back on the proper dosage of Synthroid. It's frustrating as fuck.

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that people who make comments about the health of others based on their bodies without any real knowledge about the person's habits need to be smacked over the head with a cast iron skillet.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-28-2010 13:40:

Did you miss everything he said? It isn't about their bodies, it's about their inability to take responsibility for their health/life/diet choices.


Posted by fughawzi on Jul-28-2010 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Did you miss everything he said? It isn't about their bodies, it's about their inability to take responsibility for their health/life/diet choices.


No? I was just explaining why I reacted the way I did? He mentioned that he got so angry because of people constantly judging him about his body type, so I said I hate that and those people need to be hit over the head with a cast iron skillet?

What?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-28-2010 13:56:

Ah, my misunderstanding. I only skimmed your post.


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