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Posted by BECK on Mar-14-2011 21:58:

any news on the reactors or the aftershocks of tsunamis?


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-14-2011 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
Groundzero

Use this mapplet to see what a nuclear disaster would look like for Fukushima nuclear plant, 3 reactors go. All 3 reactors combine put out like a 2 GW, not sure how that would equal in tons.


I checked out a 50 Mt nuke and it doesn't look so good for anyone within 40 km of the plant, best bet people better be 100 km away if this thing decides to really go KABOOM.




You can't relate this at all. A nuclear weapon works in a totally different fashion than this.

A meltdown is a problem because of the pressure it can build up inside the reactor vessel. If that pressure is unable to be released you can have a catastrophic failure of the containment vessel and the reactor itself will be blown to bits by the pressure inside. Its NOT a nuclear explosion.

The type of fuel inside a reactor is not weapons grade (most of the time, unless its a plutonium breeding reactor, but even then the amounts are so low and in such a low density it doesn't matter). Uranium fuel, or MOX (which is a mix of Uranium and reclaimed weapons grade plutonium) can not reach critical mass, they just come close (but that is very relative, close is not even near what it would take to create a run-away criticality).

So please, do not scare monger with links like that. The possible destruction, physically, by these reactors having a catastrophic failure is not even close to a 50MT nuclear explosion. You can not even begin to comprehend the differences (I am talking about, a fireball many miles in diameter, people getting instant third degree burns 30-40 miles away, blast damage stretching for hundreds of kilometers). The only comparable area would be on fallout, which is radioactive material that is taken into the atmosphere and deposited many miles away, irradiating those areas for potentially long periods of time.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-14-2011 22:36:

Regarding the nuclear issues, this is a really good (albeit long) read, about what is happening at the plant over there.

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/...le-explanation/


Posted by DaveT on Mar-14-2011 23:26:

- There was another explosion in the No. 2 reactor.
- They have detected abnormal radiation levels in a town south of the reactors.
- The Japanese govt. is now saying that No. 2 reactor might be leaking, saying the outter containment could be cracked/damaged.
- NHK says 2.7m of a fuel rod is exposed. not good.


Also, the USGS has updated the quake from an 8.9 to a 9.0. Japan's EQ agency also upgraded from their 8.8 measurement to a 9.0.

In the future, it will be referred to as the as Japan's Tohoku Earthquake.

also...


Posted by jester on Mar-14-2011 23:52:

Meltdown alert at Japan reactor


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-15-2011 00:13:

Sorry I've been away in mormon land utah but haven't been completely disconnected from the news, so I know about the earthquake, the tsunami, and the nuclear reactor meltdown...but now a volcano erupts in the south?

Did I miss that part in this thread or is the nuclear reactor meltdown more of a hot topic to discuss. Either way, shit's popping off and the world is about to assplode.


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-15-2011 00:25:

every time there's another explosion at the nuclear plant Nou tells us its not really that bad.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-15-2011 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
every time there's another explosion at the nuclear plant Nou tells us its not really that bad.


Well, he's pretty much right.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-15-2011 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
Sorry I've been away in mormon land utah but haven't been completely disconnected from the news, so I know about the earthquake, the tsunami, and the nuclear reactor meltdown...but now a volcano erupts in the south?

Did I miss that part in this thread or is the nuclear reactor meltdown more of a hot topic to discuss. Either way, shit's popping off and the world is about to assplode.



The volcano near Kyushu has been active for like the last month and a half, they were talking about it on the news when I was over there a week ago or so.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-15-2011 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Well, he's pretty much right.


Exactly. If there hasn't been a full on meltdown and compromise of the containment vessels by now, the chances of it are even slimmer than they were at the start of the crisis, which was very slim even then.


Posted by jester on Mar-15-2011 01:43:



Posted by Zharen on Mar-15-2011 02:55:

Great, now I'm hearing reports that a 4th reactor has caught on fire and the chances of a meltdown is growing. There is also a chance that it could launch a radiation cloud into the atmosphere that could be carried over the US West Coast, but that is still in speculation.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Mar-15-2011 03:26:

This is not looking good at all.


Posted by pyro264jb on Mar-15-2011 03:57:

I hope everyone who showed concern over this matter donates at least a small amount of money to the people affected by this catastrophic tragedy. I am going to donate through the Red Cross. CNN just announced that radiation has increased to a level that can affect human health. I fear that this plume may find its way toward the west cost of America. Lets hope for the best. God Bless to all that were affected by this apocalyptic event.


Posted by Seandroid on Mar-15-2011 04:50:

I donated $10, I'll donate again when I get paid >< I wish I was able to work full time. (i'm 17)


Posted by RandomGirl on Mar-15-2011 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by jester



That is absolutely disgusting. What a complete tool.

Anyway, this whole thing has had me both mesmerized and shocked. I can't stop watching, but it makes me want to cry. I can't believe what that would be like to go through. Those poor people... I hope that they recover soon.


Posted by WittyHandle on Mar-15-2011 05:46:

Afflac just dropped him from their ad campaign


Posted by Light The Fuse on Mar-15-2011 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Well, he's pretty much right.


still?


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-15-2011 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
still?


It does look like it's worsening, unfortunately, but apparently it's not likely that there will be a full meltdown event. There is no longer a nuclear chain reaction happening, and there hasn't been for a few days since the control rods were inserted as soon as the quake hit. I would say that the evacuations are erring on the side of caution, which is wise, I guess.

If you have 10 mins spare, read through the link I posted earlier today:

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/...le-explanation/

The only way things could go very very bad, would be if the main containment parts inside the reactor(s) are cracked somehow.

Mind you, I'm no nuclear physicist :/ Hopefully they can get this bitch cooled down somehow.


Posted by chlola on Mar-15-2011 06:17:

Are other countries helping Japan cool these things down?


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-15-2011 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by chlola
Are other countries helping Japan cool these things down?


It's not even close to being that simple.

Read the link I just posted.


Posted by shaw on Mar-15-2011 06:27:

Ignore was doing such a good job for me, Stu.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-15-2011 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
Ignore was doing such a good job for me, Stu.


lol


Posted by shaw on Mar-15-2011 06:36:

It's ok. That one was worth it. I actually laughed.


Posted by chlola on Mar-15-2011 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
It's not even close to being that simple.

Read the link I just posted.


Thanks, great info...


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