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| Originally posted by Time2Burn Fantom: changing my avatar got me addicted to changing my avatar. |
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| Originally posted by fantom Is there a certain point you're trying to make with all these different avatars? Bush picture, and now this Nike slogan? Am I sensing some deep, subconcious messages you're trying to give us? |
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| Well make up your freakin' mind... or actually don't, just keep them coming! You could even put a new one every day, sorta like a daily comic illustration, so whenever I feel like getting a dose of humour I check out any of your posts on this board! Nah, forget it... I just need sleep! |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer aaaaaaaagh I wish fuckin cowboy Bush would just listen to the people around the world.I was just driving by the U.S embassy tonite and I saw thesehuge walls infront the building,so no fuckin damage could be done  and even at 1:30AM in the morning there was like 6 police cars infront the building.so if anyone wants to burn down the building good luck!! the sad part about all this is that it wont be the last war before Bush is gone,my country(Iran) is the next target in bush's list  I swear to god I will go back and defend my country,even if it means that I have to BLOW MYSELF UP to save my country!!!I've had enough of the american Guverment,it is time for someone to fuckin get rid of them for good. The world doesnt need a fuckin cowboy like fuckin Bush.Iam praying that all the muslims in the middle east to unite and fight America. Die Bush Die I will try to be there tommorow at the demonstration,see ya there |
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I am sure you have heard that Iraqi soldiers in the greater Baghdad area have recently been issued gas masks. Marines have alsi recently found a supply of nerve gas antidotes and more than 3000 gas suits in an iraqi base located within a hotel. I guess they are preparing for an American chemical weapons attack. I mean that is the American strategy right? Gas as many soldiers and civilians as possible. That's that only logical conclusion because there is no proof Iraq has chemical weapons. |
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| Originally posted by partyprincess As a graduate from an American Public High School, I have to say that you're completely full of shit. The level is substantially higher there, as is the competitiveness among peers and the pressure to attend a good university. The material my friends were covering in 12th grade chemistry class in Canada, I was doing in 9th grade bio on the other side of the border. |
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My parents are not well off. Nor, am I a rich mother ******. So please explain to me how I was accepted to Stanford University on full scholarship? Just because you were rejected over and over again is no reason to attempt to undermine the calibre of a U.S. college education. |
Speaking of war, whoever was asking for a few reasons against the war, well how about 20 of them! Here's a repost of an article posted in Political Discussions Forum by Mental Exodus, regarding the 20 lies by Bush and his administration. You might wanna spend a few minutes and read it, because it sure sheds some light on certain points you people have been arguing around here:
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The twenty lies of George W. Bush
By Patrick Martin
20 March 2003
Monday night’s 15-minute speech by President Bush, setting a 48-hour deadline for war against Iraq, went beyond the usual distortions, half-truths, and appeals to fear and backwardness to include a remarkable number of barefaced, easily refuted lies.
The enormous scale of the lying suggests two political conclusions: the Bush administration is going to war against Iraq with utter contempt for democracy and public opinion, and its war propaganda counts heavily on the support of the American media, which not only fails to challenge the lies, but repeats and reinforces them endlessly.
Without attempting to be exhaustive, it is worthwhile listing some of the most important lies and contrasting Bush’s assertions with the public record. All of the false statements listed below are directly quoted from the verbatim transcript of Bush’s remarks published on the Internet.
Lie No. 1: “My fellow citizens, events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision.”
The decision for war with Iraq was made long ago, the intervening time having been spent in an attempt to create the political climate in which US troops could be deployed for an attack. According to press reports, most recently March 16 in the Baltimore Sun, at one of the first National Security Council meetings of his presidency, months before the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Bush expressed his determination to overthrow Saddam Hussein and his willingness to commit US ground troops to an attack on Iraq for that purpose. All that was required was the appropriate pretext—supplied by September 11, 2001.
Lie No. 2: “For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war.”
The US-led United Nations regime of sanctions against Iraq, combined with “no-fly” zones and provocative weapons inspections, is one of brutal oppression. The deliberate withholding of food, medical supplies and other vital necessities is responsible for the death of more than a million Iraqis, half of them children. Two UN officials who headed the oil-for-food program resigned in protest over the conditions created in Iraq by the sanctions. The CIA used the inspectors as a front, infiltrating agents into UNSCOM, the original inspections program. The CIA’s aim was to spy on Iraq’s top officials and target Saddam Hussein for assassination.
Lie No. 3: “The Iraqi regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage. It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding full disarmament...”
Iraq has never “defied” a Security Council resolution since the end of the Persian Gulf War in 1991. It has generally cooperated with the dictates of the UN body, although frequently under protest or with reservations, because many of the resolutions involve gross violations of Iraqi sovereignty. From 1991 to 1998, UN inspectors supervised the destruction of the vast bulk of the chemical and biological weapons, as well as delivery systems, which Iraq accumulated (with the assistance of the US) during the Iran-Iraq war, and they also destroyed all of Iraq’s facilities for making new weapons.
Lie No. 4: “Peaceful efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime have failed again and again because we are not dealing with peaceful men.”
According to the Washington Post of March 16, referring to the 1991-1998 inspection period: “[U]nder UN supervision, Iraq destroyed 817 of 819 proscribed medium-range missiles, 14 launchers, 9 trailers and 56 fixed missile-launch sites. It also destroyed 73 of 75 chemical or biological warheads and 163 warheads for conventional explosives. UN inspectors also supervised destruction of 88,000 filled and unfilled chemical munitions, more than 600 tons of weaponized and bulk chemical weapons agents, 4,000 tons of precursor chemicals and 980 pieces of equipment considered key to production of such weapons.”
Lie No. 5: “The Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.”
The Washington Post article cited above noted that CIA officials were concerned “about whether administration officials have exaggerated intelligence in a desire to convince the American public and foreign governments that Iraq is violating United Nations prohibitions against chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons and long-range missile systems.” The article quoted “a senior intelligence analyst” who said the inspectors could not locate weapons caches “because there may not be much of a stockpile.”
Former British Foreign Minister Robin Cook, who resigned from the Blair government Monday in protest over the decision to go to war without UN authorization, declared, “Iraq probably has no weapons of mass destruction in the commonly understood sense of the term.” Even if Iraq is concealing some remnants of its 1980s arsenal, these would hardly deserve Bush’s lurid description, since they are primitive and relatively ineffective. “Some of the most lethal weapons ever devised” are those being unleashed by the United States on Iraq: cruise missiles, smart bombs, fuel-air explosives, the 10,000-pound “daisy-cutter” bomb, the 20,000-pound MOAB just tested in Florida. In addition, the US has explicitly refused to rule out the use of nuclear weapons.
Lie No. 6: “[Iraq] has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of Al Qaeda.”
No one, not even US government, seriously believes there is a significant connection between the Islamic fundamentalists and the secular nationalist Ba’athist regime in Iraq, which have been mortal enemies for decades. The continued assertion of an Al Qaeda-Iraq alliance is a desperate attempt to link Saddam Hussein to the September 11 attacks.
It also serves to cover up the responsibility of American imperialism for sponsoring Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. The forces that now comprise Al Qaeda were largely recruited, trained, armed and set in motion by the CIA itself, as part of a long-term policy of using Islamic fundamentalists as a weapon against left-wing movements in the Muslim countries. This policy was pursued from the 1950s and was escalated prior to and during the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, which ended in 1989. Osama bin Laden himself was part of the CIA-backed mujaheddin forces in Afghanistan before he turned against Washington in the 1990s.
Lie No. 7: “America tried to work with the United Nations to address this threat because we wanted to resolve the issue peacefully.”
The Bush administration went to the United Nations because it wanted UN sanction for military action and it wanted UN member states to cough up funds for postwar operations, along the lines of its financial shakedown operation for the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Bush’s most hawkish advisors, such as Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney, initially opposed going to the UN because they did not want diplomacy to slow down the drive to war. They only agreed after Secretary of State Colin Powell argued that the pace of the US military buildup in the Persian Gulf gave enough time to get the UN to rubber-stamp the war.
Lie No. 8: “These governments [the Security Council majority] share our assessment of the danger, but not our resolve to meet it.”
This is belied by virtually every statement on Iraq issued by the governments of France, Russia, China, Germany and other countries opposed to military action, which have repeatedly declared that they see no imminent threat from Iraq. Bush brands his opponents on the Security Council as cowards, as though they were afraid to take action against Saddam Hussein. These countries were, in fact, increasingly alarmed—by the United States, not Iraq. Insofar as they summoned up resolve, to the shock of the Bush administration, it was to deny UN support for the war that Washington had already decided to wage.
Lie No. 9: “Many nations, however, do have the resolve and fortitude to act against this threat to peace, and a broad coalition is now gathering to enforce the just demands of the world.”
Only three nations are contributing military forces to the war: 250,000 from the US, 40,000 from Britain, and 2,000 from Australia. The other members of the “broad coalition” are those which have been bribed or browbeaten to allow the US to fly over their countries to bomb Iraq, to station troops, ships or warplanes on their territory, or provide technical assistance or other material aid to the war. None will do any fighting. All are acting against the expressed desire of their own population.
Lie No. 10: “The United Nations Security Council has not lived up to its responsibilities, so we will rise to ours.”
Bush defines the UN body’s responsibility as serving as a rubber stamp for whatever action the United States government demands. In relation to the UN, however, the United States does have definite responsibilities, including refraining from waging war without Security Council authorization, except in the case of immediate self-defense. Under Article 42 of the UN Charter, it is for the Security Council, not the US or Britain, to decide how Security Council resolutions such as 1441 are to be enforced. The US decision to “enforce” its interpretation of 1441 regardless of the will of the Security Council is a violation of international law.
Lie No. 11: “If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you.”
The widely reported US military strategy is to conduct an aerial bombardment of Iraq so devastating that it will “shock and awe” the Iraqi people and compel the Iraqi armed forces to surrender en masse. According to one press preview, US and British forces “plan to launch the deadliest first night of air strikes on a single country in the history of air power. Hundreds of targets in every region of Iraq will be hit simultaneously.” Estimates of likely Iraqi civilian casualties from the immediate impact of bombs and missiles range from thousands to hundreds of thousands, and even higher when the long-term effects are included.
Lie No. 12: “As our coalition takes their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need.”
This is particularly cynical, since the immediate consequence of Bush’s 48-hour ultimatum was the withdrawal of all UN humanitarian aid workers and the shutdown of the oil-for-food program, which underwrites the feeding of 60 percent of Iraq’s population. As for medicine, the US has systematically deprived the Iraqi people of needed medicine for the past 12 years, insisting that even the most basic medical supplies, like antibiotics and syringes, be banned as “dual-use” items that could be used in a program of biological warfare.
Lie No. 13: “We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free.”
The goal of the Bush administration is to install a US puppet regime in Baghdad, initially taking the form of an American military dictatorship. It is no exaggeration to say that the US government has been the leading promoter of dictatorships around the world, from Pinochet of Chile to Suharto of Indonesia to Saddam Hussein himself, who, according to one recent report, got his political start as an anti-communist hit-man working in a CIA-backed plot to assassinate Iraq’s left-nationalist President Qasem in 1959.
A classified State Department report described by the Los Angeles Times of March 14 not only concluded that a democratic Iraq was unlikely to arise from the devastation of war, it suggested that this was not even desirable from the standpoint of American interests, because “anti-American sentiment is so pervasive that elections in the short term could lead to the rise of Islamic-controlled governments hostile to the United States.”
Lie No. 14: “Should Saddam Hussein choose confrontation, the American people can know that every measure has been taken to avoid war and every measure will be taken to win it.”
This combines a lie and a brutal truth. The Bush administration has taken every possible measure to insure that war takes place, viewing the resumption of UN weapons inspections with barely disguised hostility and directing its venom against those countries that have suggested a diplomatic settlement with Iraq is achievable. In prosecuting the war, the Bush administration is indeed prepared to use “every measure,” up to an including nuclear weapons, in order to win it.
Lie No. 15: “War has no certainty except the certainty of sacrifice.”
There will be colossal sacrifices for the Iraqi people, and sacrifices in blood and economic well-being for the American people as well. But for Bush’s real constituency, the wealthiest layer at the top of American society, there will be no sacrifices at all. Instead, the administration is seeking a tax cut package of over $700 billion, including the abolition of taxation on corporate dividends. Major US corporations are in line to reap hundreds of millions of dollars in profits from the rebuilding of Iraqi infrastructure shattered by the coming US assault. These include the oil construction firm Halliburton, which Vice President Cheney headed prior to joining the Bush administration, and which continues to include Cheney on its payroll.
Lie No. 16: “[T]he only way to reduce the harm and duration of war is to apply the full force and might of our military, and we are prepared to do so.”
Every aggressor claims to deplore the suffering of war and seeks to blame the victim for resisting, and thus prolonging the agony. Bush is no different. His hypocritical statements of “concern” for the Iraqi people cannot disguise the fact that, as many administration apologists freely admit, this is “a war of choice”—deliberately sought by the US government to pursue its strategic agenda in the Middle East.
Lie No. 17: “The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed.”
No one, even in the American military-intelligence complex, seriously believes this. US counter-terrorism officials have repeatedly said that a US conquest and occupation of Iraq, by killing untold thousands of Arabs and Muslims and inflaming public opinion in the Arab world and beyond, will spark more terrorism, not less.
Lie No. 18: “We are now acting because the risks of inaction would be far greater. In one year, or five years, the power of Iraq to inflict harm on all free nations would be multiplied many times over.”
This is belied by the record of the past twelve years, which has seen a steady decline in Iraqi military power. Saddam Hussein has never been a threat to any “free nation,” if that term has any meaning, only to the reactionary oil sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf and to neighboring Iran, all ruled by regimes that are as repressive as his.
Lie No. 19: “As we enforce the just demands of the world, we will also honor the deepest commitments of our country.”
The demands of the world were expressed by the millions who marched in cities throughout the world on February 15 and March 15 to oppose a unilateral US attack on Iraq. Bush seeks to have it both ways—claiming to enforce previous Security Council resolutions against Iraq (“the just demands of the world”), while flagrantly defying the will of the majority of the Security Council, the majority of the world’s governments, and the vast majority of the world’s people.
Lie No. 20: “Unlike Saddam Hussein, we believe the Iraqi people are deserving and capable of human liberty... The United States with other countries will work to advance liberty and peace in that region.”
For “the Iraqi people,” substitute “the Egyptian people,” “the people of the Arabian peninsula,” “the Pakistani people” or those of other US-backed dictatorships, not to mention the Palestinians who live under a brutal Israeli occupation that is supported by Washington. Does the US government believe that any of them are “deserving and capable of human liberty?” When the parliament of Turkey, under the pressure of popular opposition, voted to bar the US from using Turkish territory to invade Iraq, the Bush administration appealed to the Turkish military to pressure the government into overturning this democratic decision.
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| Originally posted by partyprincess As a graduate from an American Public High School, I have to say that you're completely full of shit. The level is substantially higher there, as is the competitiveness among peers and the pressure to attend a good university. The material my friends were covering in 12th grade chemistry class in Canada, I was doing in 9th grade bio on the other side of the border. My parents are not well off. Nor, am I a rich mother ******. So please explain to me how I was accepted to Stanford University on full scholarship? Just because you were rejected over and over again is no reason to attempt to undermine the calibre of a U.S. college education. How many years of statistical analysis did this Harvard drop out conduct before he stated these facts to a blatantly Anti-American newspaper? Hey in the January issue of Cosmo there's an article entitled "When Guys Crush on other Guys.." Don't worry it's perfectly normal. I think Vin Diesel is sexy too. |
Here's some cold hard FACTS that a few of you here seem to be starving for...
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> 1. Q: What percentage of the world's population does the U.S. have?
> A: 6%
> 2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have?
> A: 50%
> 3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
> A: Saudi Arabia
> 4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
> A: Iraq
> 5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
> A: $900 billion
> 6. Q: How much of this is spent by the U.S.?
> A:50%
> 7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials
> of
> life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
>
> A: 10% (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding initially
> requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).
>
> 8. Q: How many people have died in wars since World War II?
> A: 86 million
> 9. Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?
> A: Since the early 1980's.
> 10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical and biological weapons on their
> own?
> A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government,
> along with Britain and private corporations.
> 11. Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare
> against
> Iran?
> A: No
> 12. Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish
> town
> of Halabja in 1988?
> A: 5,000
> 13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time?
> A: Not even one
> 14. Q: How many gallons of Agent Orange did America use inVietnam?
> A: 17 million.
> 15. Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and September 11th
> terrorist
> attack?
> A: No
> 16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf
> War?
> A: 35,000
> 17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western
> forces during the Gulf War ?
> A: 0
> 18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S.tanks
> with ploughs mounted on the front?
> A: 6,000
> 19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait
> after
> the Gulf War?
> A: 40 tons
> 20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq
> between 1991 and 1994?
> A: 700%
> 21. Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had
> destroyed in 1991?
> A: 80%
> 22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for
> anything
> other than deterrence and self defense?
> A: No
> 23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10
> years
> ago?
> A: No
> 24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event
> of
> an attack on Iraq in 2002/3?
> A: 10,000
> 25. Q: What percentage of these will be children?
> A:Over 50%
> 26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
> A: 11 years
> 27. Q: Was the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998 and
> September 1999?
> A: No
> 28. Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between
> December
> 1998 and September 1999?
> A: 20 million
> 29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing
> strict
> sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports?
> A: 12 years
> 30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)?
> A: 38
> 31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraq in 1999 (per
> 1,000
> births)?
> A: 131 (that's an increase of 345%)
> 32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a
> result of UN sanctions?
> A: 1.5 million
> 33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to
> sanctions
> since 1997?
> A: 750,000
> 34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
> A:No
> 35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?
> A :300
> 36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?
> A: 5
> 37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party HQ?
> A: Yes
> 38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed
> to
> a
> level unprecedented in modern history?
> A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.
> 39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons
> of
> mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered
> and
> dismantled?
>
> A: 90%
> 40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in?
> A:Yes
> 41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
> A: Over 65
> 42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972
> and
> 1990?
> A: 30+
> 43. Q: How much does the U.S. fund Israel a year?
> A: $5 billion
> 44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
> A: 8
> 45. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Iraq have?
> A: 0
> 46. Q: How many nuclear warheads does US have?
> A: over 10,000
> 47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
> A: The US
> 48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
> A:Over 400
> 49. Q: Has Israel ever allowed UN weapons inspections?
> A: No
> 50. Q: What percentage of the Palestinian territories are controlled by
> Israeli settlements?
> A: 42%
> 51. Q: Is Israel illegally occupying Palestinian land?
> A: Yes
> 52. Q: Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global
> peace:
> Iraq or the U.S.?
> A: you decide
> 53. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about
> the
> things that matter"?
> A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
>
>
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Lie No. 11: “If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you.” The widely reported US military strategy is to conduct an aerial bombardment of Iraq so devastating that it will “shock and awe” the Iraqi people and compel the Iraqi armed forces to surrender en masse. According to one press preview, US and British forces “plan to launch the deadliest first night of air strikes on a single country in the history of air power. Hundreds of targets in every region of Iraq will be hit simultaneously.” Estimates of likely Iraqi civilian casualties from the immediate impact of bombs and missiles range from thousands to hundreds of thousands, and even higher when the long-term effects are included. |
can someone answer this question:
If Bush plans on exploting Iraq's oil resources after this war how would he go about doing it ?
After reading almost every post in here.... i can justly say that Oceanlab rat takes the title of most ignorant fuck in the Toronto forums.... but with respect to the whole of trance addict, he places fourth after Tiesto14... whose received this unfortunately position as leading this pack.... as well as Melek-mike, and Shlomo-malek!
Grow up oceanlab
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King After reading almost every post in here.... i can justly say that Oceanlab rat takes the title of most ignorant fuck in the Toronto forums.... but with respect to the whole of trance addict, he places fourth after Tiesto14... whose received this unfortunately position as leading this pack.... as well as Melek-mike, and Shlomo-malek! Grow up oceanlab |
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| Originally posted by TranceGeek Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King After reading almost every post in here.... i can justly say that Oceanlab rat takes the title of most ignorant fuck in the Toronto forums.... but with respect to the whole of trance addict, he places fourth after Tiesto14... whose received this unfortunately position as leading this pack.... as well as Melek-mike, and Shlomo-malek! Grow up oceanlab |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King ... he places fourth after Tiesto14... whose received this unfortunately position as leading this pack.... as well as Melek-mike, and Shlomo-malek! Grow up oceanlab |
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| Originally posted by DigiNut What about Aries? |
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| Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee wel he didnt even reach "tranceaddict" status before he got the boot |
Good for you guys.
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| Originally posted by DigiNut Exactly, I think that deserves a mark of recognition on its own! He should be in first place! |
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| Originally posted by fantom Speaking of war, whoever was asking for a few reasons against the war, well how about 20 of them! Here's a repost of an article posted in Political Discussions Forum by Mental Exodus, regarding the 20 lies by Bush and his administration. You might wanna spend a few minutes and read it, because it sure sheds some light on certain points you people have been arguing around here: -------------------------------------------------------------------- The twenty lies of George W. Bush By Patrick Martin 20 March 2003 Monday night’s 15-minute speech by President Bush, setting a 48-hour deadline for war against Iraq, went beyond the usual distortions, half-truths, and appeals to fear and backwardness to include a remarkable number of barefaced, easily refuted lies. The enormous scale of the lying suggests two political conclusions: the Bush administration is going to war against Iraq with utter contempt for democracy and public opinion, and its war propaganda counts heavily on the support of the American media, which not only fails to challenge the lies, but repeats and reinforces them endlessly. Without attempting to be exhaustive, it is worthwhile listing some of the most important lies and contrasting Bush’s assertions with the public record. All of the false statements listed below are directly quoted from the verbatim transcript of Bush’s remarks published on the Internet. |
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL heh whoa brutal.. this sounds like one of those "you just got OWNED" rebuttals.. i guess at this point many people on the boards are basing a lot of their comments on hearsay , but when someone actually experiences it, that gives it a lot more credibility.. |
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| Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee one thing i gotta give Aries credit for was that he never insulted anyone, leave alone using cheap insults. (at least thats what my memory tells me) |
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| Originally posted by discojoe I thought he did.. didnt he start calling people fags or something? |
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| Originally posted by oceanlab you can bitch and moan all you want about this war...but nobody has mentioned anything about any alternatives. if there was only 1 type of music in the world, would you bitch and moan or create a new kind of music?? well until you can tell me what ELSE can be done in Iraq...all you people are doing are bitching because your opinion is obviously worth shit and you know it. if you were really that brilliant maybe you could change the world. but you people arn't brilliant at all, all you do is complain...and not only abOOOOt the war. you complain about everything from clubs being overcrowded to djs not playing the songs YOU like. why don't YOU grow up and accept the fact that whiny little bitches don't always get their way. |
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| Originally posted by partyprincess Are you too stupid to realize that the level of study in high school reflects the applicant pool for college? |
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| Originally posted by discojoe I dont think many people would argue about high school standards. Universities, on the other hand are VERY different from high schools here in Canada and the drop out rates in most programs are staggering. Most programs here are very difficult and very demanding. |
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| Originally posted by partyprincess Are you too stupid to realize that the level of study in high school reflects the applicant pool for college? |
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| Originally posted by Time2Burn Alternative to war? How bout something called peace? |
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