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Posted by Nabistai on Aug-01-2003 15:36:

Totally off-topic, but, 400th post!


Posted by Tiger777 on Aug-01-2003 20:26:

very nite.

Tommy, I just saw, proitious upped mix final mix. So, there is work for you to be done mate


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-02-2003 04:26:

Re: Re: tommyd

quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
Make it extra detailed and we'll forget about it


They are always extra detailed! Even when I'm in a rush! Anyway, here it is:

Mix 1

4/4pts Intro Track

Very good beginning and energy for an intro track. The shortness of the track was good and it kept the intro exciting.

7/10pts Consistent Beatmatching

Your second transition was off on several counts by I�ll recoup it all in this section. First off, it wasn�t phrasematched by at least 8 beats. Second, it wasn�t beatmatched and third, it wasn�t equed properly at all. If you are going to mix a track in that early, you need to reduce the highs and mids before you slam home the cue track�s melody. The 6th transition was pretty bad for beatmatching. The phrasematching was good, but you weren�t able to correct for the beatmatching at all after a good 30 seconds. The cue track was too fast. The matching was off on the last track too. You were in general, very good with beatmatching, but when you were off, you were way off!

9/10pts Consistent Phrasematching

The phrase matching was off by a bar or two in your third transition. The 4th transition was phrasematched quite well, kudos. In general it was well phrasematched.

8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure

The volume levels on transition 1 could have been better. Especially after the transition, the volume increased more than it should have. Though I say that, it was a good transition, I�m just knit picking. Going into your third track, the phrasematching was off, but you could have compensated by reducing the rhythm volume (highs and mids)�you didn�t. I think that the volume could have been a little bit louder on the 4th transition. The eqs needed to be used on the last transition too.

8/10pts Track Selection

The tracks were all pretty good. The ones that were really good and carried the set were mostly the popular epic tracks that we have all come to know and love. The new ones or new mixes (to me) helped the set along nicely too. I think that the overall energy of the set was good and consistent but the last track took away from it. It is an overplayed track and I think that it stole energy from your set because it is too overplayed, and it doesn�t have enough energy to finish up your set.

7/10pts Mixing Style/Originality

I really liked the 5th transition as far as originality goes. It was a very long transition and it worked incredibly well. The tracks were meant for each other. The set carried well, but nothing that was really incredible for me. I think that you can mix in your tracks a whole chorus earlier. It would speed up the set and help maintain the energy.

4/5pts Sound Quality

There were several stereo sound defects in your set. The first couple were in your second track and they went on from there. It seemed like the same error like a bad wire connection throughout, so I will only dock you one point. Everything else was good except for the fact that the bass was lacking from most of your set.

1/3pts Effects

I only hear one flanger as you exited the set�.

5/5pts Track Order

From the tracks that you have selected, I think that you put them in a very good order.

1/3pts Exit Track

I think that the way you exited the set was kind of poor. You cut out just as the next chorus was about to hit its peak! It is an okay track for giving the crowd a rest, if that is how you wanted to end your set.

Total = 54/70 = 77%

Mix 2

4/4pts Intro Track

The set picks up quickly and nicely.

9/10pts Consistent Beatmatching

Beatmatching wasn�t on during the first transition, though it was very short and you cut it well, considering that the beats were off.

8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching

The 4th transition wasn�t phrasematched. It was off by 4 beats. So was the 5th transition.

9/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure

The first track is a bit weak in highs and mids. Equing could be used to better this. The volume increased a bit too high during the last track.

8/10pts Track Selection

The track flowed very well with each other and there was continuity between the beginning and the end. As with the first set, there was nothing really special about the track selection, but it was mostly new or refreshing to me and better than the first.

8/10pts Mixing Style/Originality

The timing on your 2nd transition was good, though I think that you could have done better by bringing up the volume on the cue track a little bit more a bit earlier. As with the first set, I think that you can mix in your next tracks a bit earlier.

5/5pts Sound Quality

No problems here.

1/3pts Effects

None that I could hear, but just incase�

5/5pts Track Order

Given the tracks that you selected, you did a very good job.

3/3pts Exit Track

The ending track gave the whole set continuity because of the same sound samples as in the intro track. It didn�t end like a typical track.


Total = 60/70 = 86%


I think that both sets were pretty comparable, but the second set has the advantage both technically and artistically. The second set has few technical mistakes like beatmatching and phrasematching. The second set also flows better than the first. Picking the next track is one of the most important aspects of Djing, and set two can do it better than set one.

I declare that set 2 is the winner!


Posted by tommyd on Aug-02-2003 07:59:

Thanks

Thanks mate, only problem is that my challnage ran out and
quote:
TommyD and Nabistai failed to complete their formal challenge.
quote:
TommyD gets placed in the penalty box for 3 days for


could you sort that out for me! I was mix #2, so yey! oh and does the scratching count as sound effects? which cat. does it get included in?

ps how does the ladder determine or rank / standings>?


Posted by tommyd on Aug-02-2003 09:17:

Tiger777 vs Proitious

Here are my judging criteria: (Based on Flesch's)

4pts Intro Track
10pts Consistent Beatmatching
10pts Consistent Phrasematching
10pts (Harmonics), Volume Matching and Gain Structure
10pts Track Selection
10pts Mixing Style/Originality
5pts Sound Quality
3pts Effects
5pts Track Order
3pts Exit Track

Mix #1

finally agood set with a build up! nice early mixing keep tracks flowing

4pts Intro Track / 3
10pts Consistent Beatmatching / 9
10pts Consistent Phrasematching /9
10pts (Harmonics), Volume Matching and Gain Structure /9
10pts Track Selection/ goods tunes dome well heard so 8
10pts Mixing Style/Originality/ 9 - leves in sounds from previous track after main bulk of mixing,

sounds good!

5pts Sound Quality/ 5
3pts Effects/ 3 - nice of them and in the right places!
5pts Track Order/ 5 tracks work well with each other, harmonically and they also build well
3pts Exit Track . 2 - heard it too many times but still great!


good first track, cool tune with vocal, nice! heard it all before though not original!

Notes:

1 - good mix, lil short cut off but harmonics and beats were good.
2 - well beat, and harmonics, great mix! nice long mix. very good mix!
3 - well timed and beat and harmonics! quite short but it works
4 - beats good, harmonics great well timed,
5 - plastic boy - mix was poor compared to others, slightly out of beat and harmonics
6 - again slightly off sounds, comes in too early and knocks off the rift off plastic boy! Bit too quick.
7 - nice tne, funkey and trancey - starting to mix almost a bit too early? but still good mixing

Rest was perfect, fantastic mixing and very well harmonically!

62/80 89%! well done!

mix #2

4pts Intro Track / 2
10pts Consistent Beatmatching / 4
10pts Consistent Phrasematching / 5
10pts (Harmonics), Volume Matching and Gain Structure / 5
10pts Track Selection / 5 good tunes but soo well known and old!
10pts Mixing Style/Originality / 5
5pts Sound Quality / 3 are you using CD Decks, because it keeps skipping away!
3pts Effects / 1 didnt notice any but 1 for good measure
5pts Track Order / 2 no real order here
3pts Exit Track / 2 i love this tune

34 / 70 49% - good effort, really you just need to practice and practice some more, concentrate on beatmatching and timings, good tunes wont always win it! get your hands on some of the latest tunes and some unknown ones and next time you will blow me away!

Mix #1 is the winner!

Well done both of you!
TommyD


Posted by Tiger777 on Aug-02-2003 11:58:

oh, there were skippings, didn't hear them... Ya, I know, not a very good mix, matchings were pretty poor...


Posted by Nabistai on Aug-02-2003 12:51:

Re: Re: Re: tommyd

Hey thanks for judging flesh, and for your detailed explanations


quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
You were in general, very good with beatmatching, but when you were off, you were way off!


As for this I just anted to mention that the failed beatmatch-parts were all where a vinyl was involved. I started with cd's and I only have one tt so for now vinyls is my weakest part (but I'll be getting a 2nd tt in about 3 weeks yay!)

And as for the sound problems, I noticed they come from my left channel (to a cdj). SO I just placed a new wire between them, I hope that solves it (otherwise it's either my cdj or my mixer )

Congratz tommyd!


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-02-2003 16:18:

Re: Thanks

quote:
Originally posted by tommyd
Thanks mate, only problem is that my challnage ran out and

could you sort that out for me! I was mix #2, so yey! oh and does the scratching count as sound effects? which cat. does it get included in?

ps how does the ladder determine or rank / standings>?


I will fix that later today. Did you get a loss reported against you as well then? Also, did Nabistai get a win reported for him?


Posted by tommyd on Aug-02-2003 16:43:

problems

no losses just sin binned i think, thanks


Posted by Nabistai on Aug-02-2003 16:44:

No I didn't get a win. Do I have to repost my loss or not?


Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-02-2003 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
No I didn't get a win. Do I have to repost my loss or not?


loser reports match losses under REPORT MATCH


Posted by tommyd on Aug-02-2003 23:34:

off topic!

off topic but wow, i just sold MOTORCYCLE AS THE RUSH COMES for �75 on E-bay, what a place!


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-03-2003 01:53:

Okay, I think that I fixed the problem. I reported the Loss for Nabistai and the Win for TommyD. If there are any problems with this or if Nabistai already reported the loss let me know what each of your records should be. I'll take your words for it


Posted by Mister_Michel on Aug-03-2003 08:28:

Yes I already reported the loss, and then it said 'Nabistai challenged TommyD and was defeated' (tommyd challenged me). It's 0-3 now but it should be o-2


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-03-2003 15:37:

Okay, the ladder should be correct now, let me know if there are any problems! I made one major change as well, I increased the formal challenge time to two weeks. It seems that too many people are running out of time due to not being able to coordinate everything within one week. This will give everyone more time and less pressure!! Let me know what you think, and feel free to offer any suggestions on how to improve the ladder!


Posted by Nabistai on Aug-03-2003 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Okay, the ladder should be correct now, let me know if there are any problems! I made one major change as well, I increased the formal challenge time to two weeks. It seems that too many people are running out of time due to not being able to coordinate everything within one week. This will give everyone more time and less pressure!! Let me know what you think, and feel free to offer any suggestions on how to improve the ladder!


Thx

Good thing you changed it to 2 weeks because sometimes there are periods where there is absolutely no time free in a week


Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-03-2003 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Okay, the ladder should be correct now, let me know if there are any problems! I made one major change as well, I increased the formal challenge time to two weeks. It seems that too many people are running out of time due to not being able to coordinate everything within one week. This will give everyone more time and less pressure!! Let me know what you think, and feel free to offer any suggestions on how to improve the ladder!


Thanks for the help Flesch!
I know im really busy sometimes too like the last 2 weeks!


Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-03-2003 19:31:

Kaos vs Luke Terry

Flesch when the mixes are in there would you mind judging?


Posted by tommyd on Aug-04-2003 09:00:

Hello! challange me!

hey every1 im free so someone challange me!


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-04-2003 12:06:

Re: Kaos vs Luke Terry

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Flesch when the mixes are in there would you mind judging?


Sure, I'll check the FTP over the next few days


Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-05-2003 07:09:

I have another challenge all ready to go
Kaos vs TheMightyCad if someone wants to download them and judge.


Posted by TheMightyCad on Aug-08-2003 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
I have another challenge all ready to go
Kaos vs TheMightyCad if someone wants to download them and judge.



I've been working away for a few days and just checked back in....No-one judged the my match with Kaos??

I thought Dj Flesch was gonna do it..


Posted by Mister_Michel on Aug-08-2003 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TheMightyCad
I've been working away for a few days and just checked back in....No-one judged the my match with Kaos??

I thought Dj Flesch was gonna do it..


I assume Flesh has a job, give him some credit wil ya


Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-08-2003 13:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Mister_Michel
I assume Flesh has a job, give him some credit wil ya


Flesch was going to do my Kaos vs Luke one-
I dont believe anyone said they would do the Kaos vs MightyC one-

Any takers?

Both mixes are already in the folder


Posted by TheMightyCad on Aug-08-2003 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Mister_Michel
I assume Flesh has a job, give him some credit wil ya


Sorry I spoke.....

I obviously picked up a previous post incorrectly...


....so, any takers for judging??


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