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Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-19-2006 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Some odd choices in that list there. For example Orbital's Brown Album is in stock at Chemical right now for �12.99, so it's not really very rare.


you're right. ill remove it. because of the number on wants, i added it in the past, because i thought it was rare. it also gained relatively high prices in the past on ebay, hence i added it.

next to that, there are a number of hardcore releases in the list. though its EDM, they're not 100% in harmony with the object of this topic. but because of their high number of wants, and rareness, and high prices top get them (if possible), they're in the list. but we've discussed this issue in the past before. on my behalfs, they may be in the list. but if someone has other thoughts about it, please let me know ... its just sometimes very difficult to decide whether or not something should be in. there are thin lines between genre's often ...


Posted by harriz on Aug-19-2006 14:42:

This is a great thread but why be so close minded about other genres?
Why can't it be breakbeat, techno, Jungle or house?
Why does it have to be 'Bt - Remember' cracker music?


Posted by Rainborn on Aug-19-2006 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
This is a great thread but why be so close minded about other genres?
Why can't it be breakbeat, techno, Jungle or house?
Why does it have to be 'Bt - Remember' cracker music?




What in the fiery pits of hell?


Posted by GrimReaper on Aug-19-2006 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ThaMaestro
contributions from people like waxhead, daanmc, grimreaper, the_chris, keithos27, diesel09, vandict, dragonsemerald etc .. (and all those others i might forget).. their submissions and additions are very useful!

I have contributed in this thread? That's news to me. Maybe i could dive into my collection and see if i can find anything worth mentioning.. i doubt it tho.


Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-19-2006 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
This is a great thread but why be so close minded about other genres?
Why can't it be breakbeat, techno, Jungle or house?
Why does it have to be 'Bt - Remember' cracker music?


because the thread off as a question from my side. as im interested for 70% into trance (when i started off this thread at least), my question only regarded trance-releated releases. some progressive (house) tunes are involved too. when the thread grew, all suggestions that came in where trance-related. though im open to other genre's, like house and techno (which are in the list currently too, how bout millsart's 'axis copper edition'?), we never examined those genre's, because from the start off, we never did it. things might get to confused when other (more) genre's will be involved. i must say im open to more genre's, as long as they're close to trance .. progressive, progressive house, house, techno, thats fine by me. jungle; no .. dont even know what it is. its not up to me to decide what allowed here, and whats not, but the thread originated from my question. and i set up the discgos list of RareRecords. i control that list ... so a short answer to your question; more genre's a welcome, but keep things close. and ask gently


Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-19-2006 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
I have contributed in this thread? That's news to me. Maybe i could dive into my collection and see if i can find anything worth mentioning.. i doubt it tho.


well, ive seen quite some replies from you in the last few pages, so i thought; i better name grimreaper too, because otherwise he might get angry


Posted by GrimReaper on Aug-19-2006 17:20:

Alright, i don't think i have that many nowadays actually "rare by numbers" trance vinyls to be honest.. my rarities as such are of other genres for the most part. But here goes a few i've got and would classify as pretty rare:

Viper - The Twister (Qattara Remix)
- Features only on the limited picture vinyl. No idea about the number of made copies tho.

New Order - Crystal (Blue Amazon Remix)/Faithless - God Is A DJ (Skynet UK Remix)
- Exclusive mixes of the tracks for DMC. The a-side is prog tho but the b-side goes into the trance category.

Chicane - Offshore '97 (promo 2x12")
- To my knowledge one of the two different double promo 12"s featuring the full 11min Salt Tank remix, as it was edited for the official releases and this being the harder to find edition of the two i believe.

Global Method - Vibe Tribe EP
- Includes the oh so lovely Orbital remix of Good Life. 966 copies pressed from what i remember which about equals the number of copies pressed of the 1st edition of Orbital - Chime/Deeper and it took me almost 10 years to find a mint copy of that one damnit!

I got quite a few tunes from the list but sadly many of them on alternate releases and not quite as rare.. but some also on equally rare releases, like AvB mix of L'Esperanza of which i have the Xtravaganza promo and not the whitelabel, same number of people have both on discogs but the whitey seems to be more sought after.

I'll look deeper into my stuff later on.. now i'm out.


Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-19-2006 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper


your copy of


Global Method - Good Life (Orbital Mix)


is pretty damn hard to find these days hehe . i still hate you for that one grimmy


Posted by GrimReaper on Aug-19-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
your copy of

Global Method - Good Life (Orbital Mix)

is pretty damn hard to find these days hehe . i still hate you for that one grimmy

Haha oh yes, that one's actually pretty trancy.

Thanks for the heads up btw.. added that to my "rarities" list.


Posted by SVGmethod on Aug-19-2006 22:47:

ive got these...hit me up if ur interested in these....

AB/DC - This Feeling (Southern Fried Records)
BT - Dreaming (Black Hole Recordings)
BT - Dreaming (Headspace)
Cranberries, The - Shattered (Arctic Quest Bootleg) (Not On Label)
Holden & Thompson - Nothing (Cookies 'n Cream Recordings)
Hybrid - Finished Symphony (Promo 3) (Distinct'ive Records)
James Holden - Horizons (INCredible)
Passive Resistance - Praiseworthy Tunes (Sniper)
Salt Tank - Eugina (Promo) (Lost Language)
Starkid - Crayons 2004 (Release Elements)
Talisman & Hudson / Amoeba Assassin - Leaving Planet Earth / Piledriver (Not On Label)

I am looking for this record:
http://www.discogs.com/release/296939

PQM Project, The - Aenema
Label: Institution Recordings
Catalog#: IR001
Format: 12"
Country: US
Released: Feb 2004
Tracklisting:
A Aenema (Original Mix) (7:52)
B Aenema (Noel Sanger's Global Reset Button Mix) (9:32)


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-19-2006 23:22:

n00b question. is there any other reason of not mass producing vinyls like CDs, apart from increasing their rarity and therefore their price ?


Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-19-2006 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
n00b question. is there any other reason of not mass producing vinyls like CDs, apart from increasing their rarity and therefore their price ?



it's expensive...


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-19-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
it's expensive...


But now a days you do get vinyl writers don't you ? where you play from a laptop but the track gets recorded on the vinly and you actually get the feel of mixing on turntables.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Aug-20-2006 00:00:

Anyone want to buy this from me? I'm selling for about $180..


Posted by thesuperfunk on Aug-20-2006 11:44:

Underworld - Born Slippy (Paul van Dyk Remix)

Only Paul and Piet Blank have copies as far as i know.


Posted by THE_Chris on Aug-20-2006 11:50:

There are those reconstructions of that going around though


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-20-2006 12:14:

are these rare vinyl tracks easily available as mp3s ?


Posted by thesuperfunk on Aug-20-2006 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
There are those reconstructions of that going around though


TBF though they are pretty shite quality ... i wish i had never asked Azareal to do it now all those years back lol


Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-20-2006 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by SVGmethod
ive got these...hit me up if ur interested in these....

AB/DC - This Feeling (Southern Fried Records)
BT - Dreaming (Black Hole Recordings)
BT - Dreaming (Headspace)
Cranberries, The - Shattered (Arctic Quest Bootleg) (Not On Label)
Holden & Thompson - Nothing (Cookies 'n Cream Recordings)
Hybrid - Finished Symphony (Promo 3) (Distinct'ive Records)
James Holden - Horizons (INCredible)
Passive Resistance - Praiseworthy Tunes (Sniper)
Salt Tank - Eugina (Promo) (Lost Language)
Starkid - Crayons 2004 (Release Elements)
Talisman & Hudson / Amoeba Assassin - Leaving Planet Earth / Piledriver (Not On Label)

I am looking for this record:
http://www.discogs.com/release/296939

PQM Project, The - Aenema
Label: Institution Recordings
Catalog#: IR001
Format: 12"
Country: US
Released: Feb 2004
Tracklisting:
A Aenema (Original Mix) (7:52)
B Aenema (Noel Sanger's Global Reset Button Mix) (9:32)


for selling and buying records, this is the wrong section, no matter how rare the record is you sell. plz go to the for sale/wanted section.


Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-20-2006 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
Underworld - Born Slippy (Paul van Dyk Remix)

Only Paul and Piet Blank have copies as far as i know.


its for sale, very easy to get. at least, if im right. im referring to this release;
http://www.discogs.com/release/469124
http://www.discogs.com/release/227743
http://www.discogs.com/release/571753
(perhaps there are more then these?)

especially the last one is easy (and cheap) to get on ebay nowadays. i hope the remix of pvd on these releases is the same as the one you're referring too ...

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
are these rare vinyl tracks easily available as mp3s ?


some are, but some are hard to get even on mp3. though i never tried to find most of the records from the RareRecords list on mp3, i know some are hard to get ...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-20-2006 13:52:

I'm pretty sure those are all pressed from the reconstructed mp3.


Posted by ahp2002 on Aug-20-2006 14:03:

Hey mates,

i got a Vincent de Moor promo cd-r from his promotion company last year featuring 10 tracks of Vincent. 2 of them have been on released on Black Hole Recordings.

1. Mystique Colors
2. Cressidia

the other eight are still unreleased and there are some pretty massive tracks on it.

Does anyone else have this/heard about this?

anyway i added it to discogs. If anyone wants soundsamples let me know

click here: http://www.discogs.com/release/760972


Posted by thesuperfunk on Aug-20-2006 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by ThaMaestro
its for sale, very easy to get. at least, if im right. im referring to this release;
http://www.discogs.com/release/469124
http://www.discogs.com/release/227743
http://www.discogs.com/release/571753
(perhaps there are more then these?)

especially the last one is easy (and cheap) to get on ebay nowadays. i hope the remix of pvd on these releases is the same as the one you're referring too ...



All dodgy bootlegs i'm afraid.


Posted by ThaMaestro on Aug-20-2006 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
All dodgy bootlegs i'm afraid.


yes, big chance it is ... though i have the scene releases (mp3's) from some of those releases, and they sound pretty good to me. those pvd remixes 2x12" might be 'real'/legal, if you know what i mean.


Posted by harriz on Aug-20-2006 16:34:

I am surprised none of you have mentioned Rabbit In The Moon - O.B.E. / Freak to the Beat on Hallucination in 1993.
This is one of the most sought after records in the history of dance music!

Now I know this is a breakbeat tune so I will try my very best to 'somehow link it to trance DJs' since most trance consumers follow trance djs.

Hmm... *scratches head*... upon a time 'big room electro/neo prog',/'watered down minimal' laptop dj Sasha played this track next to the progressive trance and epic trance stuff like BT and Paul van dyk.
BT made and Paul van dyk played tracks sold under 'Tiesto'
Tiesto is a trance businessman ...

As you can clearly see now this is not 'too far from trance djs'.
Add it to the list!


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