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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Umm.. That's the entire point of drugs - to help you have a good time with something. Nobody takes drugs to have a bad time.

I think he meant that if you have to RELY on drugs to have a good time, you have a problem.

this thread needs more sketch.

i wish i had a pill to eat while reading all this

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Originally posted by daves this thread needs more sketch. i wish i had a pill to eat while reading all this

Aw, here you go:

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Originally posted by Chris Allen I'm pretty sure the scene wasn't devised and created around drug culture. Did it have a big impact, definitely. Do you need to have drugs to have a good time at these shows, if you do you have a problem. It's really that simple. If you need drugs to have a good time with anything, that's a problem. This is one of the few message boards around where people go to such great lengths to defend illicit drug use. Looking on it from a perspective of someone who doesn't condone or use drugs, it's quite comical. I've never needed drugs to have a good time at a party and I won't need them in the future either. Party is still a great time. I think I would go as far to say that NOT doing drugs and seeing how ridiculous people USING drugs are is what makes the party even better.

absolutely agreed.

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Originally posted by The Highroller I think it's pretty hard to tell if someone has a drug problem based on their posts on a message board.

how about looking at poll numbers? in my opinion those 27% definitely have a problem, its absurd to think otherwise..

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Originally posted by Chris Allen This is one of the few message boards around where people go to such great lengths to defend illicit drug use. Looking on it from a perspective of someone who doesn't condone or use drugs, it's quite comical.

Can you explain to me why it's comical that one would defend drug use? Who are you to say that a person who enjoys a pill every once in a while is in the wrong and shouldn't be doing it? If that person leads a constructive life and wants to do a pill every once in a while, they're probably going to defend their decision to do so if people like you come along and try to come down on them for doing so.

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Originally posted by The Highroller You seem surprised that drugs are a huge part of this scene. Is this something you just found out? The act of intoxicating one's self has been a part of human nature ever since the dawn of time. It is not something new. The rave/afterhours scene has always been like this. Drugs are a huge factor in the way parties are, and the way music is. Why? Most people who are at the party are on drugs, and the music is marketed to people who are on drugs while listening to it. If people weren't on drugs at the party, the party, nor the music would be the same.

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Originally posted by jennypie When everyone around you is fucked up all the time, how is it that you can REALLY tell what's harmful and what isn't? One person's behaviour validates the next persons, and so on...so we come to accept that it isn't harmful or "wrong". And it's a nice little cushion to justify what we're doing.

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Originally posted by jennypie

That's a generalization. While that does tend to happen to some people, smart people tend to use their heads and keep in touch with reality, realizing that using drugs can be harmful, and should be used in moderation.

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Originally posted by jennypie Totally agreed. LoL at the last part...it's so true, and something I HAVE enjoyed now that I don't do drugs anymore. I don't look down on those people though, cause it used to be me too...which is what makes me laugh about it.

Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Ever since you've "cleaned up your act" and started posting on these boards again, your posts regarding drugs and drug users have had a condescending tone.

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Originally posted by geroin how about looking at poll numbers? in my opinion those 27% definitely have a problem, its absurd to think otherwise..

While I think that amount of drugs consumed over one's life is one indicator of a drug problem, I think a drug problem is a bit more complicated than number of pills consumed.

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Originally posted by The Highroller [color=ccff00]Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Ever since you've "cleaned up your act" and started posting on these boards again, your posts regarding drugs and drug users have had a condescending tone.

Once again, I don't really care what you think, Graham. Interpret my posts however you want, I know what I mean by them and it isn't that. I don't have to prove that to you.

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this post wasnt just written was it? lol. seriously people, let's stop talking about this before some of you look like huge crackers (OH, too late!).

I'm not a drug user these days, so I have no problem mentioning stuff... just don't ask anything silly like, "Where can I score some pills, PLUR".

I really didn't even use drugs that much when I did use... I just like to horde information.

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Originally posted by EvilTree link?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=339597

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Originally posted by jennypie YOU need to be stickied!

Got any glue...or similar sticky substances? lol

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Originally posted by jennypie Once again, I don't really care what you think, Graham. Interpret my posts however you want, I know what I mean by them and it isn't that. I don't have to prove that to you.

You don't have to care about what I think, but if you say something that I don't like or that I don't agree with, I'm not going to keep my mouth shut. You can't expect people to stay silent after some of the things you say.

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Originally posted by Cribby Got any glue...or similar sticky substances? lol

*thinks pervy thoughts*

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Originally posted by Skipper I call BS on that. Drink enough red bull, take enough ephedrine and you can do that.

Drinking too much red bull is probably just as bad for you as doing the drugs and ephedrine is a whole different story. I have many friends who use to drink a lot of red bull and now they are suffering from kidney stones and ulcers.....the doctor has told them its directly caused by all the red bull they have had.

my cat looks like he could use a good high every now and then.

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Originally posted by The Highroller You don't have to care about what I think, but if you say something that I don't like or that I don't agree with, I'm not going to keep my mouth shut. You can't expect people to stay silent after some of the things you say.

Ah yes...well we've been over this before. Lets not fight. <3

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Originally posted by jennypie *thinks pervy thoughts*

I think about 50% of your posts or probably even more are sexual in nature LMAO.........you keep all of our minds in the gutter haha

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Drinking too much red bull is probably just as bad for you as doing the drugs and ephedrine is a whole different story. I have many friends who use to drink a lot of red bull and now they are suffering from kidney stones and ulcers.....the doctor has told them its directly caused by all the red bull they have had.

By all means then, do pills! Much better.

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Originally posted by jennypie *thinks pervy thoughts*

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Originally posted by cenik I think about 50% of your posts or probably even more are sexual in nature LMAO.........you keep all of our minds in the gutter haha

It was hard for her not to make a comment like that after my post.

Im am a bit of a hypocrate when it comes to going to clubs. When i go sober.. i dont like seeing drug users because it looks disturbing, and it makes me think of my drug use as a negetive thing. On the other hand when i decide to pop a few pills at a club, I look at the scene in a totaly different light, you get the sense that everyone is equal and it doesnt matter about wat they do or wat they are on. I guess one has to experiance drugs to understand them.

Back in my drug days I used to really be a cracker.
It started out with just a pill here, a bump there, maybe a cap or a line if i needed to spice things up.
But then that started not cutting it anymore.
I was needing to do pills, caps and lines all at the same time.
I mean at exactly the same time.
Imagine trying to coordinate doing a pill, cap and line all at the same time. I was trying to throw bumps in as well, but doing four drugs at one time was too much for my motor skills to handle(probably because of the years of drug abuse).
Since I couldn't do the four at one time, I decided I was going to have to come up with a way of getting more fucked up that didn't involve the four at one trick.
I had heard once that if you take all the pills in your medicine cabinet that are expired and put them into a tub of petroleum jelly and hold the entire thing over a Bunsen burner for 45-55 seconds it will turn into a superdrug more better than 20 e's, fifty bumps and 100 caps.
Now I just do this, and i'm a better person for it.

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Originally posted by shanny I was needing to do pills, caps and lines all at the same time. I mean at exactly the same time.

Poly-drug-abuse at it's best!

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Originally posted by shanny Back in my drug days I used to really be a cracker. It started out with just a pill here, a bump there, maybe a cap or a line if i needed to spice things up. But then that started not cutting it anymore. I was needing to do pills, caps and lines all at the same time. I mean at exactly the same time. Imagine trying to coordinate doing a pill, cap and line all at the same time. I was trying to throw bumps in as well, but doing four drugs at one time was too much for my motor skills to handle(probably because of the years of drug abuse). Since I couldn't do the four at one time, I decided I was going to have to come up with a way of getting more fucked up that didn't involve the four at one trick. I had heard once that if you take all the pills in your medicine cabinet that are expired and put them into a tub of petroleum jelly and hold the entire thing over a Bunsen burner for 45-55 seconds it will turn into a superdrug more better than 20 e's, fifty bumps and 100 caps. Now I just do this, and i'm a better person for it.

LOL


Seriously though, I once did a pill, a cap, and a bump at the same time. The first hour was great...but I spent the second hour puking - no - choking on puke....thinking I was going to die, scolding myself for being such a loser, wondering how ashamed my mother would be when she found out I died from od'ing on drugs in some sketchy Asian dude's shithole apartment.

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Originally posted by jennypie Seriously though, I once did a pill, a cap, and a bump at the same time. The first hour was great...but I spent the second hour puking - no - choking on puke....thinking I was going to die, scolding myself for being such a loser, wondering how ashamed my mother would be when she found out I died from od'ing on drugs in some sketchy Asian dude's shithole apartment.

ROFLMAO

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Originally posted by _EuG_ Im am a bit of a hypocrate when it comes to going to clubs. When i go sober.. i dont like seeing drug users because it looks disturbing, and it makes me think of my drug use as a negetive thing.

I party sober nowdays but when im at a party and someone who is mashed walks up and talks to me, sometimes it makes me feel like i should have done a pill as well because its really hard to talk to a person who quite frankly is on a very different wavelength as you are and people who are fuct up and want to talk sweet nonsense to everyone around them can get annoying to sober folk (I know i was).

As far as maintaining the energy for the whole night goes, i recently discovered 2 jaegerbombs before you hit the floor can do wonders for your energy levels. Its just the euphoria thats missing.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Can you explain to me why it's comical that one would defend drug use? Who are you to say that a person who enjoys a pill every once in a while is in the wrong and shouldn't be doing it? If that person leads a constructive life and wants to do a pill every once in a while, they're probably going to defend their decision to do so if people like you come along and try to come down on them for doing so.

Who are you to say that me being sober at a party is wrong? I would take being sober and partying over doing drugs any day.

The fact that it's comical is the fact that instead of enjoying the music, you end up spending your time trying to defend your drug use writing paragraph over paragraph (in yellow to make a point nonetheless). You can lead quite a constructive life, sure. But I can lead a life just as constructive and productive without the use of any illicit drugs, so I defend my decision, and I will continue to do so.

And people like me, don't have a problem defending their decision to party sober. Thanks.

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Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Ever since you've "cleaned up your act" and started posting on these boards again, your posts regarding drugs and drug users have had a condescending tone.

Oh no! Heaven forbid someone has a condescending tone towards something illegal and possibly dangerous! You may be the majority in a board related to dance music or any sort of music in general, but you're far from a majority of society in your argument.

Edit: I just want to add one more thing. I am not against people using drugs for recreation, abuse, or addiction. You have every right to ruin your lives, kill yourself, or change your orientation on the type of enjoyment you have in an evening (which ever order your chose is up to you). However, when you try to tell me that I may be doing something wrong to defend the fact that I do not use any drugs and continue to practice a clean lifestyle: I don't agree with you. Hence my responses to your overbearing and also equally condescending posts.

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Originally posted by Chris Allen (in yellow to make a point nonetheless

nice observation.

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