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Posted by astroboy on Oct-17-2009 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Nacht
To be honest its the psychiatrists that I would like to see less of. Psychologists have no choice but to talk to you so you can atleast get some help there. My point is to stop focusing on diagnosing people with granny raping syndrome and instead take each person individually and go through their life step by step. When someone told me I had anxiety disorder and prescribed me a buffet of pills I felt even more messed up. Instead of taking pills people should be forced to change their life routine or else the problem will never go away. Sounds crazy to force someone to change their life routine but that + talking is the only solution. Pills never cured anyone as far as I know.

Where did your post go astroboy? I look like i'm talking to myself. I need to see a psychologist now, weeeeeeeeee


Hahah I deleted it at the same time as you were replying.

I get what you're saying though. An individual approach to therapy is definitely the ideal. Especially for non-drug therapies like CBT or whatever. In general are over-prescribed for psychological conditions which are over-diagnosed. I thought for a second you were like those crazy dudes that believe there's no such thing as mental illness, its just the system trying to "keep them down".

I think you do need to have categories of symptoms though if you're goign to create, test and prescribe specific dosages of drugs. I do know of at least one person that's doing reasonably well on anti-psychotics, whereas without them she's a complete loony.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-17-2009 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Hahah I deleted it at the same time as you were replying.

I get what you're saying though. An individual approach to therapy is definitely the ideal. Especially for non-drug therapies like CBT or whatever. In general are over-prescribed for psychological conditions which are over-diagnosed. I thought for a second you were like those crazy dudes that believe there's no such thing as mental illness, its just the system trying to "keep them down".

I think you do need to have categories of symptoms though if you're goign to create, test and prescribe specific dosages of drugs. I do know of at least one person that's doing reasonably well on anti-psychotics, whereas without them she's a complete loony.



You are right about having to have certain categories and some meds for certain conditions (schizophrenia) for instance. You got my point though, more 1 on 1 time could probably fix a lot of the cases that walk into clinics.

NO MORE MONKEY BUSINESS


Posted by The17sss on Oct-17-2009 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
This one actually made big news here:

http://www.motherjones.com/riff/200...orter-and-satan



1. Tree of Life on front of robe represents the love of God
2. Sash has ancient Hebrew writing of Psalm 33:12
3. Christ's hand points to the U.S. Constitution, the young boy, and the people representing the strength of America
4. Fifty stars shine in the sky representing the states of the Union -- some stars shine brighter than others
5. Patriotic heroes speaking and pleading from the dust to all Americans living today
6. Five generations of soldiers from the Revolutionary War era to the modern day U.S. Marine
7. Supreme Court Justice with hands on face, feeling remorse for damage to America through rulings on controversial court cases


if you're interested, here is a full description by the artist of every piece of this painting... just run your cursor over any part and it will explain:

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwor...rtpiece_id=353#


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-17-2009 06:56:

quote:
I knew when I painted this picture that Thomas Payne (so sorry I offended some of you for spelling his name wrong), and Thomas Jefferson were Deists. That was irrelevant to me. I believe God brings about His purposes through different people. Even those who aren't baptized or following the accepted Christian religion.


Fucking Xtians.


Posted by shaw on Oct-18-2009 02:36:

...so does this mean no more gsmile?


Posted by zoogla on Oct-20-2009 23:12:

i've met jay and he's a good person. most of the people criticizing him seem like assholes.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 23:14:

No, I'm pretty sure the person who makes a fake facebook page about someone because they pushed their buttons on the internet is the asshole.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 23:14:

So you know that Jay did that?

f5f5f5f5


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 23:16:

Lol yes. I guess he didn't realize that one of the people he requested is also a friend of mine (not from TA).

Plus well, everything else that points to it being him.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 23:20:

I'd be a little afraid if I were you. Those photo tags were really black book kind of shit. And people call me emo.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
No, I'm pretty sure the person who makes a fake facebook page about someone because they pushed their buttons on the internet is the asshole.


lol no shit

add to it the fact that this is someone who is constantly claiming that TAs "take the internet too seriously"


Posted by zoogla on Oct-20-2009 23:24:

who cares about a fake facebook page? it's all a joke. until you meet a person and see how they are without a mask, you can't really judge them. if you want to judge their internet persona then more power to you.

the only person who i've met that acts exactly like they do online is Vivid Boy.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 23:25:

Yes that page REALLY seems like a joke. Went to an awful lot of trouble for a joke.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 23:27:

yea well imo, people who have completely different personalities on here than from real life have issues and obviously the thoughts and actions he posts on here are a part of who he is inside. so uh, no thanks.

i'll take my normal "what you see is what you get" type of people. way more refreshing/genuine/respectable.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I'd be a little afraid if I were you. Those photo tags were really black book kind of shit. And people call me emo.




As if I really give a shit if people judge me based on a fake Facebook page. As if I give a shit to begin with, lol. I don't even know any of the people that were added to that friends list aside from TAs, and the ONE mutual friend Jay and I had in common.

Anyone with half a brain will see that page and think whoever did it is a hurting loser.


Posted by bas on Oct-20-2009 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by fayraree
who cares about a fake facebook page? it's all a joke. until you meet a person and see how they are without a mask, you can't really judge them. if you want to judge their internet persona then more power to you.

the only person who i've met that acts exactly like they do online is Vivid Boy.

Shut up Jay! You're not fooling anyone!


Posted by enydo on Oct-20-2009 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea well imo, people who have completely different personalities on here than from real life have issues



Oh yeah, uh huh. Totally.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 23:33:

hey we all have issues. i'm by no means acting like i'm perfect, but i can judge whoever the fuck i want on here lol especially jay.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 23:34:

Hey, trust her. She once thought about taking a psychology course in college.


Posted by bas on Oct-20-2009 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Hey, trust her. She once thought about taking a psychology course in college.

I know you get all flustered when you're talking to Jamie, so I fixed this for you

edit //


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 23:35:

that's right FOOLS


Posted by enydo on Oct-20-2009 23:36:

Yeah, well I've taken two Psychology courses.

I'm obviously more of an expert.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 23:37:

SNAP


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-20-2009 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
edit //


Wtf, I was reading over and over that thinking "What did he fix??"


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-20-2009 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
lol there there, all better system j? do you always throw a little shit tantrum and hurl insults at people to get the answers you desire? moron.


He 'threw a shit tantrum' because you did something very annoying by claiming to have read psychology books. All he asked was for you to substantiate your claim, which you still have not done. As I said, this generally indicates that the claimant is full of crap.

Jennypie supplied the goods and he responded rationally and calmly, just as he would have done had you backed up your original statements rather than throwing out the childish 'I don't have to prove myself to you!' Even a 'I can't remember the names of the books, sorry' probably would have been adequate.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Meh. Here's a bit of psychology. I don't know how much stock you have in Myers-Briggs personality tests, but here's what mine says:


I think those things actually have some merit. I first took a formal one when I was 16. I think it had around 300 questions. I then did an interview and was blown away by how well the stranger understood my way of thinking.

I just took a 50 question test and got the exact same type as I did when I took the test all those years ago: ENTJ.

http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=k...&c=fieldmarshal

quote:

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is marshaling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in the Fieldmarshal. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal's intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercise tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills.

Hardly more than two percent of the total population, Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, they simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that they have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are - to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures.

They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, at marshaling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input.

Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field - medicine, law, business, education, government, the military - Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshal, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations - and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.


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