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Posted by Antistatic on Nov-07-2003 04:12:

Maybe if we didn't post all our tracklists then we wouldn't be trying to imitate each other?


Posted by escee on Nov-07-2003 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
Guys, just an observation on all the trance sets I'm seeing on here lately, if you wonder why trance gets shit for all sounding the same, well think about it, you're all playing pretty much the same tunes! Only in different orders!

Where's the variety?


You cant mix other genres in a trance set, and there in is the problem.

If you are mixing progressive you can also mix in some breaks, or tech house. So you can move around 3 different genres if you so desire. If everyone was just mixing progressive house and only progressive house, then you'd see the same problem i think.

Another problem is you dont go into a store and see quality trance besides what is pressed on certain trance labels. Sure there is sometimes some unknown white label sitting there, but 95% of the time its shit.


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-07-2003 05:41:

1. Lost Tribe - Angel (Four Four Remix)
2. Paul Van Dyk - Out There And Back (Original Mix)
3. Armin Van Buuren - Communication (Original Mix)
4. M3 - Bailamos (Matt Darey Remix)
5. Mea Culpa - The Child (Original Mix)
6. Paul Van Dyk & BT - Namistai (Original Mix)
7. Lost Tribe - Gamemaster (Original Mix)
8. Accadia - Blind Visions (Original Mix)
9. Mea Culpa - Eternal Life (Original Mix)
10. Mirco De Govia - Aura Indigo (Original Mix)
11. Mark Otton - Mushroom Therapy (Lightscape Mix)
12. Dreas - Sonic Rush (Original Mix)
13. Icebreaker International - Port Of Yokohama (A Freestate Yzf Mix)


Posted by muli on Nov-07-2003 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
You cant mix other genres in a trance set, and there in is the problem.

If you are mixing progressive you can also mix in some breaks, or tech house. So you can move around 3 different genres if you so desire. If everyone was just mixing progressive house and only progressive house, then you'd see the same problem i think.

Another problem is you dont go into a store and see quality trance besides what is pressed on certain trance labels. Sure there is sometimes some unknown white label sitting there, but 95% of the time its shit.


what do u mean u cant mix up trance?

In a trance set you could play, prog, uplifting trance, tech stuff, breaky stuff, psy stuff.

J00F is great with his unique style, gotta love him


Posted by escee on Nov-07-2003 06:13:

there is no way you could do it as smoothly though

technically you could mix house into trance, it would sound shit most of the time, but technically its possible.

i would also like to clarify that im talking over the period of 1 or 2 mixes. If you had a few hours, then yes you can hop around genres more easily. The tracklists in this are mostly less than or equal to 80 minutes.

I am not a fan of j00fs style either.


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-07-2003 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
there is no way you could do it as smoothly though



Exactly, hell you can mix RnB (wouldn't know why you would want to anyways) out of Trance if you wanted to, but doesn't really validate that it will sound good or smooth in anyway.


Posted by Slade on Nov-07-2003 07:21:

I wasn't referring to styles, but rather trance itself. Are the good tunes really that limited that you all play end up playing the same stuff? Is that the reality of the situation here?

I've heard Lanithium and the stuff he plays, which doesn't appear to come off the mainstream trance labels like Vandit, Lost Language etc, is that stuff really hard to find or what? Or is he a major trance nerd and the rest of u are just lazy?


Posted by escee on Nov-07-2003 07:37:

Using matts last mix

01. Armin van Buuren feat. System F - From The Heart - United
02. Filo & Peri - Juicy - ASOT
03. Empyreal Sun - Intense Emotion - nfi
04. Astura - Orions Belt - nfi
05. Matt Hardwick vs Smith & Pledger - Day One (Above & Beyond Remix) - Anjunabeats?
06. Empyreal Sun - Twisted Reality - nfi
07. Afterburn - Wintersun - nfi
08. The Gift - The Seventh Day - ID&T?
09. Insigma - Avalon - ATCR
10. Dreas - Morning Snow - nfi
11. Firewall - Sincere (Pulser Remix) - ASOT

5/11 Tracks i dont what labels they are on, the other ones i think are right, and they are all popular mainstream trance labels i would say. Im sure in a few weeks when every one else gets the newest ASOT releases you'll see those guys playing these tracks.

Personally i usually only buy the popular trance tracks because they are popular for a reason, and im not wealthy enough to buy loads of other stuff, however if i hear something ive not heard before and its as good as the other popular stuff i wont hesitate to get it. I think good uplifting trance tracks are that limited, and by the time we usually get them they have caned to death by the top djs making them seem even more stale to some people.


Posted by Lanithium on Nov-07-2003 08:01:

im sure if this were a house/breaks/prog forum it would be exactly the same..

95% of the tunes i play i first hear in international dj sets or on radio shows such as armins 'a state of trance' i then jot them down and wait for them to be released.
now judging from the amount of people worldwide that listen to the same sets i do.. theres gonna be alot of people playing exactly the same style as me.
however i dont feel the need to stray from the music i love and want to play just to be original.. big bonus being in perth.. there arent many people playing my style of trance


Posted by Lanithium on Nov-07-2003 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
Using matts last mix

01. Armin van Buuren feat. System F - From The Heart - United
02. Filo & Peri - Juicy - ASOT
03. Empyreal Sun - Intense Emotion - Galactive
04. Astura - Orions Belt - Fundamental
05. Matt Hardwick vs Smith & Pledger - Day One (Above & Beyond Remix) - Anjunabeats? <-- Yep
06. Empyreal Sun - Twisted Reality - Galactive
07. Afterburn - Wintersun - Tatsumaki
08. The Gift - The Seventh Day - ID&T? <-- Yep
09. Insigma - Avalon - ATCR
10. Dreas - Morning Snow - First Second
11. Firewall - Sincere (Pulser Remix) - ASOT


Posted by Huebor on Nov-07-2003 09:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
I've heard Lanithium and the stuff he plays, which doesn't appear to come off the mainstream trance labels like Vandit, Lost Language etc, is that stuff really hard to find or what? Or is he a major trance nerd and the rest of u are just lazy?


This just in! Hell freezes over!


Slade seen complimenting someone on a forum!

More at 7.


Posted by gilmista on Nov-07-2003 10:35:

lol @ huebor

cool pic


Posted by TiksA on Nov-09-2003 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
01. Armin van Buuren feat. System F - From The Heart - United
02. Filo & Peri - Juicy - ASOT
03. Empyreal Sun - Intense Emotion - nfi
04. Astura - Orions Belt - nfi
05. Matt Hardwick vs Smith & Pledger - Day One (Above & Beyond Remix) - Anjunabeats?
06. Empyreal Sun - Twisted Reality - nfi
07. Afterburn - Wintersun - nfi
08. The Gift - The Seventh Day - ID&T?
09. Insigma - Avalon - ATCR
10. Dreas - Morning Snow - nfi
11. Firewall - Sincere (Pulser Remix) - ASOT


Thats nice, but its ASOT rip off :P


Posted by Ghostface on Nov-16-2003 23:37:

warming up for nik fish and amber savage on saturday night.

Conjure One ft Sinead O�Connor � Tears From The Moon (Hybrid�s Twisted On The Terrace Mix) [Nettwerk]
Holden and Thompson � Nothing (93 Returning) [Loaded]
Lemon 8 � The Inner Sanctuary Sessions Pt 3 (Pressure) [Basic Energy]
Perpetuous Dreamer � Dub.Wav [Armind]
Andain � Beautiful Things (Gabriel and Dresden Unplugged Mix) [Black Hole]
Outback � Minds In Motion (Original Mix) [A State of Trance]
Solarstone � Solarcoaster (Original Mix) [Lost Language]
Scott Bond v Solarstone � Third Earth (Original Mix) [ID-T]
Gabriel and Dresden presents Motorcycle � As The Rush Comes (Sweeping Strings Mix) [Armada]
Three Drives � Sunset on Ibiza (Above and Beyond Mix) [Xtravaganza]


Posted by Spang on Nov-17-2003 00:33:

Spangs whacked mix.

Mark Norman- Overkill (intro mix)
Katana- Tribal shock
Andain- Beautiful things (josh gabrial tech mix)
Benny Benassi- Satisfaction (Steve murano mix)
Pirate- Leaving the sun (ferry corsten flashover mix)
Silencer- Rollin and controllin (Rollin tech mix)
Dj Ernesto- Urban cowboy
Outback- Minds in motion
Mac J- Deep ranger
Dj Ton.b- Electronic malfunction (Cor fijnemans outstanding mix)
Musix- Cyber desire
Lost tribe- Gamemaster (Micheal woods mix)


Posted by Lanithium on Nov-17-2003 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by TiksA
Thats nice, but its ASOT rip off :P


strange you say that seeing as 99% of the major trance choons go thru asot.. so pretty much every set you'll see is an asot rip off.


Posted by [ groovypants ] on Nov-17-2003 05:34:



01. James Holden - A Break in the Clouds (main mix)
02. Jewel - Intuition (Markus Return to Coldharbour)
03. Ducan Sheik - On a High (Gaberial & Dresden dub)
04. Dave Gahan - Dirty Sticky Floors (Junkie XL dub)
05. Delerium - After All (Satoshi Tomiie dub)
06. Justin Timberlake - Rock That Body (Sander K Just in the Club)
07. Andain - Beautiful Things (G&D unplugged)
08. James Holden - Nothing (93 Returning)
09. John 00 Fleming vs MIKE - Ice Cream (J00F remix)


yes they are "anthems"
but I'm still a n00b and its nearly all the "prog." vinyls I have.


Posted by escee on Nov-17-2003 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by [ groovypants ]
yes they are "anthems"
but I'm still a n00b and its nearly all the "prog." vinyls I have.


fuck trying to please chin strokers


Posted by Lanithium on Nov-17-2003 09:11:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
fuck trying to please chin strokers


yeah dont bother, its impossible!


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-17-2003 09:32:

lol chin strokers, i like that

Anyways here is a mix i done with a few new vinyls and oldos.

1. Salt Tank - Skyline (Original Mix)
2. Mea Culpa - Eternal Life (Original Mix)
3. BT - Flaming June (PVD Vs BT Remix)
4. Paul Van Dyk - Words (Original Mix)
5. Questia - Crystal Clouds (Original Mix)
6. Solid Sessions - Janeiro (AVB Mix)
7. Darren Tate - Prayer For A God (Original Mix)
8. Outback - Minds In Motion (Original Mix)
9. Sirocco - Destination (Original Mix)


Posted by escee on Nov-17-2003 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Lanithium
yeah dont bother, its impossible!


nah, all you need to do is play stuff that no one has heard of before. it doesnt matter if its good or not, just make sure no one has heard it


Posted by Slade on Nov-17-2003 10:37:

my new mix

Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)
Unknown - Unknown - (White)


Posted by ascension on Nov-18-2003 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
Unknown - Unknown - (White)



I think i've heard that one


Posted by muli on Nov-18-2003 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
nah, all you need to do is play stuff that no one has heard of before. it doesnt matter if its good or not, just make sure no one has heard it


Ive heard that before.....


Posted by escee on Nov-18-2003 02:19:



Caption: "Ooooh not this song again, i got the promo a month ago!"

Check that shit out, even george dubya is getting in on the chin stroking action!


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