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Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-27-2004 11:42:

Our UEFA Cup opponents:

Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin (Israel). Games played on 16th and 30th September.

Just read this on the BBC site:

quote:
And reports on Merseyside are suggesting Rooney now favours Newcastle ahead of an Old Trafford switch.


I'll believe it when I see it.


Posted by Turner on Aug-28-2004 11:13:

quote:

Given: Defender should be top target


Shay Given believes Newcastle should turn their attentions to luring a centre-half to the club if they fail in their bid to sign Wayne Rooney.

The Everton striker handed in a transfer request with Manchester United expected to come up with the Merseysiders' expected �25m price tag.

United have already matched Newcastle's �20m offer this week with Everton rejecting the Tynesiders' second bid of �23.5m.

Given has now reflected the feeling of many Magpies fans that club chairman Freddy Shepherd and manager Sir Bobby Robson should focus their attentions on replacing defender Jonathan Woodgate, following his departure to Real Madrid.

"I know Wayne Rooney's a brilliant player, but I know we've got four very, very good centre-forwards already and I would like to see money spent on a centre-half," said the Republic of Ireland goalkeeper.

"The manager and the chairman aren't stupid, they both know that as well. It depends how much the chairman has got to spend and the club has to spend, I suppose, but for me personally and I think for the squad, we're in more need of a centre-half than a centre-forward."

Given admits he has never seen such soap opera-type drama at St James' Park as the fans questions the wisdom of the club's attempts to recruit England's 18-year-old wonderboy Rooney.

Indeed, there have also been calls for Robson's head and that of his chairman Freddy Shepherd, although neither has any appetite for defeatism.

Given insists he has seen no change in the demeanour of his manager even though he knows his time at the club will come to an end next summer.

"He's fine, he's in good form," he said. "He's in as good form as ever, to be honest. I don't see a problem. We're all in it together and we've got to stick together.

"We haven't had an ideal start and that's down to the players as much as the management team, so it's important that we stick together when times are hard because the only way is up.

"We've got to fight to get the club going back up the league - and it is early days. We've only played three games, but the gaffer is fine as far as I'm concerned."



We should forget about Rooney altogether and get a full back if not 2.


Posted by Turner on Aug-28-2004 14:23:

Aston Villa 1 - 0 Newcastle United Olof Mellberg 4

Aston Villa 1 - 1 Newcastle United Patrick Kluivert 28

Aston Villa 1 - 2 Newcastle United Andy O`Brien 36

Aston Villa 2 - 2 Newcastle United Carlton Cole 53

Aston Villa 3 - 2 Newcastle United Gareth Barry 71

Aston Villa 4 - 2 Newcastle United J Pablo Angel 81 Thats just wank


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-28-2004 15:54:

Robbed by the referee AGAIN! What the fuck is the problem with these twats.

Newcastle are 2-1 up, Bellamy races clear about to make it 3-1 to Newcastle, Sorensen comes out of his box and deliberately handles the ball. AUTOMATIC RED CARD. No, apparently just a yellow. This referee doesn't even know the fucking rules.

Our defence is a fucking embarrassment and the referees aren't helping. We are well overdue some luck.

Freddy Shepherd, buy a defender now.


Posted by Turner on Aug-28-2004 15:55:

That just sums Newcastle up. There has to be some major changes. 2 points out of 12? They all want a kick up the fucking arse.


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-28-2004 16:01:

We should have at least 10 points out of 4 games, we've dominated three games and played well today.

We are far too weak with referees, can you imagine Alex Ferguson's reaction if he saw his side lose 2 points to a handball, have his opening goal ruled out when there was nothing wrong with it and see the opposition keeper booked for handling the ball deliberately outside of his box. I'd like us to get a referee who understands the rules, because we would have been 3-1 up or playing against 10 men, instead we got shafted big time.

I think there's a good chance Bobby Robson will lose his job in the next fortnight. Freddy Shepherd has to get a defender or the fans will be baying for his blood as well, we haven't won away since last October because we keep conceding last minute goals, so he goes out to spend 25M on a striker? What the fuck is he playing at?


Posted by Chang monkey on Aug-28-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Same old story again today. Attack, attack, attack. We need to learn to curb our attacking instincts.

We had the Boro game in the bag, we were 2-1 up and playing better, Jenas missed a sitter from about 5 yards which would have made it 3-1 minutes from time, when suddenly Hasselbaink's cheated a hand of god equaliser and we've pissed 2 points down the drain. It was desperately unfair but it wouldn't have happened if we'd just kept the ball or kept blasting it into the corners, rather than ruthlessly attacking and attacking until the final whistle.

Then the Spurs game and we wasted several glorious chances in the first half, we should have been 3-0 up easy at half time, but Spurs suddenly hit us on the break with a good 20 yard strike early in the second half and defend to the whistle. 3 points pissed away against poor opposition.

An unfairly disallowed goal from Shearer, a 25 yd fluke that Given caught and spilled into his net, and a second uncharacteristic blunder from Given all leave a bitter taste in the mouth, but the truth is we blew a hatload of chances and at 2-0 up we just continued to attack relentlessly, careless of the consequences of throwing everyone forward. Norwich deserve praise for a gutsy performance, they found plenty of space in our half before most of our players were camped outside their 18 yard box.

We should have 9 points, we have been the better side in all 3 of our games, and had 2 of them in the bag. But we only have 2 points. It's not going right for us, it's the typical slow start to the season like last year and the year before. We just need to hold onto the ball better and keep a bit of discipline. Bowyer coming back into central midfield will be a welcome boost.



Sir Bobby should take a look at his young apprentice and learn a few tips from him now. Mourinho has got it down and im loving it. shocker wen we went behind after 12 seconds, however piled on the presure, got it back then cruised to the finish while still attacking, but more importantly crushing any southampton attacks, reminiscent of our previous games.

p.s Tiago looks like a fucking steal

T-I-A-G-O, He comes from Portugal, He hates the arsenal


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-28-2004 17:28:

Sack Robson? Whats the cure to this disasterous start?


Posted by Turner on Aug-28-2004 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by FabioCannavaro
Sack Robson? Whats the cure to this disasterous start?


I say get rid of him before its too late in the season.


Posted by Simcut on Aug-28-2004 19:55:

Unhappy

what a fucking shocking start to the campaign, not enough players play for the shirt, Robson has NO say in who he can go for, apparently its people upstairs that want Rooney, we need a fucking defence!!


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-28-2004 20:40:

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Robson but it is clear his hands are tied. Freddy Shepherd should either back him or sack him. At the moment Bobby is taking the blame for everything but we all know it's Shepherd who has gone all out for Rooney when we should be going all out for a defender. Yet it was Bobby who had to walk out on Barrack Road and justify it to the public. When you look at the quality we have and the way we are playing we should have a lot more than 2 points, everything comes back to our shambolic defending.

Not only is our defence poor but Newcastle are a team that just don't do defending, it's almost seen as something to be ashamed of, like we'd rather lose 5-0 throwing caution to the wind than scrape a 1-0 victory. I remember Craig Bellamy speaking a while ago about the attacking mentality of the club. I've never seen Newcastle defend properly in my lifetime, it's probably why we've won nothing in my lifetime.

NUFC.com wrote the following piece on today's events:


quote:
You don't know what you're doing

That's usually a phrase reserved for referees but just as easily applied to the entire staff of Newcastle United Football Club; Chairman, Manager and players let's tar them all with the same, sorry, brush.

The shambles that unfolded at Villa Park had to be seen to be believed. Alan Shearer left on the bench, Kieron Dyer not in the 16, Stephen Carr captain, Lee Bowyer down the right, all decisions that had their own merits but are collectively symptomatic of a club in total disarray.

While our Chairman kids himself that Wayne Rooney could be interested in a move to Tyneside, his Manager presided over a rabble that couldn't defend to save their lives.

Ironically, referee Mike Riley also contributed to the farce with an error of Andy D'Urso proportions.

When Craig Bellamy charged in on goal and ex-mackem Sorensen handled out of his box there was only one possible decision. It's an automatic sending-off whether he has prevented a goalscoring opportunity or not. Ask Jussi Jaaskelainen who was red-carded at Bolton a few years ago for simply losing his bearings. Have the laws changed?

At that point we were leading 2-1.

From then on we capitulated to a degree that was even extraordinary for Newcastle, leaving fans bemused and frustrated.

Where do we go from here? Who knows? Something has to give soon.


Posted by Xavier on Aug-29-2004 07:41:

what is with Shearer not playing?


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-29-2004 15:28:

Shearer has been poor not only for the last few games, but pre-season and the end of last season. He still has it in him to lead the line and score goals but he needs to be rested more often. With Kluivert nearing full fitness we could afford to drop Shearer. Bellamy is impossible to drop in his current form, 5 goals in his last 7 games and he should have had one at Villa had Sorensen not handled outside his box. I think Kluivert and Bellamy is the way forward with Shearing making a fair number of games to get the best out of him. Kluivert was impressive against Villa, got himself a well taken goal and that was his first full game in months so I think there is more to come from him.

Interestingly the Villa game was 5 years to the day since Ruud Gullit's last ever game with us, that stormy night when he dropped Shearer for the home game against Sunderland. We lost 2-1 and Gullit was gone in a couple of days. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to Bobby, although I'm not sure Freddy Shepherd has the guts to sack one of football's legends.

I honestly don't think Bobby has any backing from the chairman. Just who exactly is running this team?


Posted by Turner on Aug-29-2004 15:42:

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Celtic manager Martin O'Neill has confirmed Newcastle have made enquiries about defender Bobo Balde but insists the former Toulouse man is going nowhere.

Speaking after his side's 1-0 win over Old Firm rivals Rangers, O'Neill insisted the current squad is too small to lose anyone, especially someone as key as Balde.

O'Neill said: "They (Newcastle) made inquiries about him but we don't want anything to happen, Bobo is too important for us and we are a couple of hours away from the transfer deadline.

"Today, in terms of numbers, we need to build the squad up because we are a bit stretched."



Newcastle, along with Chelsea, have also been linked with Rangers defender Jean-Alain Boumsong.

Light Blues manager Alex McLeish is desperate to keep the defender and warned that anyone wishing to sign Boumsong would have to break the bank.


McLeish said: "I wouldn't think anybody concerned with Rangers would like that to happen.


"He is a quality player and it is right that he has attracted interest from people with money but they better have a lot."

Since the departure of Jonathan Woodgate to Real Madrid for �13.4million Newcastle have been involved in a bidding war with Manchester United for Wayne Rooney.

The Red Devils are tipped to capture the young Everton striker but Newcastle's poor start to the season suggests the money would be better spent on a centre-back.

Bobby Robson's side currently languish in 16th place in the Barclays Premiership having conceded nine goals in just four games.



Newcastle are going to have to do something with only a couple of days left. IMO if we dont sign a defender we really are doomed.

Mid table this season for Newcastle


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-30-2004 10:39:

Robson has been sacked.

It was inevitable really, his hands were tied, he wasn't given the freedom to do the job properly and the results haven't gone our way this season. The media, too, has had a significant role to play in all of this, with ruthless attacks on the club all summer which have turned it into something of a soap opera. To quote Shay Given, "people have stopped watching Eastenders, now they are watching Newcastle".

I think it was a decision which should have been made this summer, as now he has had the indignity of being sacked after a poor start, and we have a search on for a replacement manager who will take time to settle with the new players, time we don't have.

Robson has turned this club around since taking control. He is one of the legends of football, doing his best at 71 years old to win trophies for the club he supported as a boy, and it's sad to see him go. But sadly he failed to sort out our eternal defensive problems and we still haven't won any trophies since 1969. Football is all Bobby has in his life, he lives and breathes the game and even at 71 he is one of the most passionate managers you will find.


Posted by Simcut on Aug-30-2004 10:50:

Unhappy

I'm personally sad to see Robson go I hope he can get a job elsewhere and still be around the Premiership, who knows, maybe Southampton?

The question is, who do we now bring in?


Posted by Luke Terry on Aug-30-2004 10:50:

Cool



quote:
from nufc.com

End of an era:
SACKED

Statement released by Newcastle United at 10am on Monday 30th August 2004:

AFTER a disappointing start to the Barclays Premier League season, the Directors of Newcastle United have informed Sir Bobby Robson that they have decided that he is to be replaced as Team Manager.

The Directors of Newcastle United wish to place on record their thanks for the way in which Sir Bobby has worked tirelessly over the past five years to try and bring success to the club. There is no hesitation by the club in recording its sincere appreciation for the way in which Sir Bobby has handled team affairs during that five year spell which has seen a significant turnaround in the club's fortunes.

The club agreed, early in 2003, to extend Sir Bobby's contract by one further season. However, after careful consideration, the club decided it was in the best interests of all concerned to re-visit that decision.

The club continues to have the greatest respect and admiration for Sir Bobby and his lifelong achievements both at home, abroad and particularly at the club he has supported since a boy, his beloved Newcastle United.

He leaves having remodeled the Newcastle team with many young players admired and coveted across the UK and Europe. The club will no doubt continue to benefit from the knowledge and experience he has given during his time here.


hope we get sturrock in, at least he will sort out the whinging bastards like dyer + make sures everybody plays for the shirt


Posted by Ian on Aug-30-2004 11:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry




hope we get sturrock in, at least he will sort out the whinging bastards like dyer + make sures everybody plays for the shirt



just keep yer grubby mitts off Big Sam


Posted by Turner on Aug-30-2004 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
just keep yer grubby mitts off Big Sam



We'll swap you, Robson for Sam


Posted by Simcut on Aug-30-2004 13:01:

Thumbs down

Sturrock? you must be joking mate!


Posted by Turner on Aug-30-2004 13:02:

Former Liverpool boss Gerard Houllier has also been mentioned about taking the role on a short-term basis until the end of the season with Shearer acting as the Frenchman's assistant.


My fucking word, please god dont let this be true, he'll fuck everything up and buy as many french players as he can.


Posted by Ian on Aug-30-2004 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Turner
Former Liverpool boss Gerard Houllier has also been mentioned about taking the role on a short-term basis until the end of the season with Shearer acting as the Frenchman's assistant.


My fucking word, please god dont let this be true, he'll fuck everything up and buy as many french players as he can.


you already have bernard and robert


Posted by Turner on Aug-30-2004 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
you already have bernard and robert


yes and thats enough, let Houllier take over and we'll have thousands ofthem and thats something we dont want and another reason we dont want Houllier is cause hes dump, he even got sacked from Liverpool


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-30-2004 13:55:

I hope the Houllier rumours aren't true.

Rooney is certain to go to Man Utd now, although that doesn't bother me as I think we have a class striker in Kluivert.

It's going to be difficult to attract a defender without a manager. About 19 hours left to find a defender before the transfer window closes. Freddy Shepherd has made a right balls up of all this.


Posted by Turner on Aug-30-2004 14:07:

Now, really i cant see Newcastle bringing in a defender. This means we aint got a chance to Qualify for the Champions League, Probably not even the Uefa Cup.

Before we sold woodgate Freddy Shepherd should have looked to see what options we had available. He really is an idiot, letting Woodgate go for �13.4 million, Selling Solano. Hes just a general idiot.

Yes, i agree to get rid of Robson, but i bet he hasnt even thought about a replacement.

I'll say once again, Newcastle will finish mid table this year.


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