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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike A possible twist in the tale... Lewis Hamilton could yet be crowned world champion after Brazilian Grand Prix stewards summoned representatives of BMW Sauber and Williams for alleged technical irregularities. Representative from both teams are meeting with stewards to discuss a technical infringement, which is believed to be a fuel temperature irregularity. Williams driver Nico Rosberg finished fourth, with BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld fifth and sixth respectively. It is understood fuel temperature issue can give a car extra horsepower advantage, and so is a clear breach of the rules. Should they be disqualified, Hamilton would be promoted to fourth place and therefore earning him enough to be crowned world champion above Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen won the race and, should the orginal result stand, would claim the world title by one point from both Hamilton and his McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso. However, a precedent from 12 years ago means that Hamilton's title hopes remain slim. On that occasion - also in Brazil - Michael Schumacher, driving for Benetton Renault, and David Coulthard who at the time was with Williams, were initially disqualified as their fuel did not conform to samples approved by the FIA after finishing first and second respectively. But a week later the FIA chose to reinstate the drivers' points, while the teams were not allowed to keep the points in the constructors' championship. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19...2816759,00.html

this would be awsome

Oh well, that didn't last long

Stewards confirm Brazilian GP result

Kimi Raikkonen has been confirmed as the 2007 Formula 1 world champion after Brazilian Grand Prix stewards upheld the original race result.

After lengthy deliberations at Interlagos on Sunday evening, the stewards decided not to penalise Williams and BMW Sauber for minor technical irregularities.

FIA technical delegate Jo Bauer said fuel samples taken from the two teams� cars during their pit stops in Sunday�s race revealed temperatures outside the permitted range.

But in a statement issued more than six hours after the end of the race, the stewards said there was sufficient doubt about the fuel temperatures �as to render it inappropriate to impose a penalty�.

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*phew*

Mclaren has notified FIA its intention to appeal the stewards decision
So if the decision is overturned and BMW and WILLIAMS cars disqualified, KIMI will no longer be the champion and Lewis will be one
DAMNNNN

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Originally posted by Omega_M After so many years of frustration and so much despair at Mclaren, Ferrari finally gave him what he should have got a long time ago.

So glad his move to Ferrari was not in vein. He may not have finished every race, but put in very strong performances when needed, and ended up winning the most races through the entire season.

When i started watching F1, in 1997, I got behind Schumacher, but he was already well established as a superb, top contender. Although I loved supporting him, I never saw him in the years of angst, as a young driver coming up through the ranks.

Being able to follow a driver from his first race, to his first championship, feels special. Watching Kimi go through heart break regularly at Mclaren was just terrible. That small smile he broke during the post-race press conference, made it all worth it.

Woot Kimi.

What an ending at last the ICE MAN has become World Champion, couldn't be more happier. Congrats to the Ferrari team working very hard and never letting go even when I myself felt the championship was to be forgotten.

Don't feel sorry for McLaren after the spying scandal although i feel sorry for Hamilton after putting brilliant performances all year round as a rookie. HAHA TO ALFONSO.

FORZA KIMI
FORZA FERRARI

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Originally posted by rikhav Mclaren has notified FIA its intention to appeal the stewards decision So if the decision is overturned and BMW and WILLIAMS cars disqualified, KIMI will no longer be the champion and Lewis will be one DAMNNNN

You can guarantee nothing will come of it though. God forbid the FIA ever upset Ferrari.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You can guarantee nothing will come of it though. God forbid the FIA ever upset Ferrari.

Its not the case of FIA favoring Ferrari
The stewards dont have any data to know what was the temperature of the fuel when it entered the car's tank
Its as simple as that

Yeah, next year FIA can order all teams to install sophisticated fuel rigs to moniter fuel temperature

I do think McLaren might have a case here, but Lewis won't come out champion out of it.

Fuck yeah, what a way to end the season! (except for the controversies afterwards..) The race was absolutely perfect, insanely tense, and the completely unlikely, but right result came out of it.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You can guarantee nothing will come of it though. God forbid the FIA ever upset Ferrari.

don't worry, Lewis is Bernie's new lap dog

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Originally posted by stren don't worry, Lewis is Bernie's new lap dog

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Originally posted by fcuk � What an ending at last the ICE MAN has become World Champion, couldn't be more happier. Congrats to the Ferrari team working very hard and never letting go even when I myself felt the championship was to be forgotten. Don't feel sorry for McLaren after the spying scandal although i feel sorry for Hamilton after putting brilliant performances all year round as a rookie. HAHA TO ALFONSO. FORZA KIMI FORZA FERRARI

Well, if Mclaren didn't point out the illegal device Ferrari was using at the start of the season, they'd be running the illegal car entire season long ( and Mclaren was punished on pure speculation as they never found real Ferrari designs on the Mclaren car ). To be honest, I think Alonso should have won since Kimi should have been disqualified at OZ, but not that it's going to happen.

I'm happy for Kimi that he finally wins after loosing the championship so many times due to his machinery in the past. It was very amazing what he did in 2003 in his inferiour Mclaren that was no match for the Williams and the Ferraris and he would have been WDC back than allready if his merc engine didnt'blow up all the time or if MS didn't get pushed out of the gravel after he got stuck due to a spin. A well, he finally got one now

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Originally posted by nchs09 this would be awsome

No, it would be the biggest shame in sports history.
Right up there with that fucking twat who refused to give up his gold medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics after it was clearly established he did not win. Although, that was a shame for the "athlete" not to the sport.

In other news, here's the real reason Hamilton's car suddenly broke down:

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Lewis Hamilton has admitted that his bid for this year's Formula One Championship seemingly came to an end during the last race of the season following a moment of human error. "My finger slipped on the steering wheel and I accidentally pressed the button used for the starting sequence," Hamilton confided several hours after the event, according to Montreal's French-language daily newspaper La Presse. That error cut power to his McLaren for an interminable minute, dropping him down to 18th place as the Brazilian Grand Prix entered its eighth lap on the Interlagos circuit. "The car went into neutral and I had to reinitialize the system, that is, reload the gearbox management program," he explained. The onboard camera recorded images of Hamilton pressing several buttons on his steering wheel while other drivers sped by. Once his McLaren car was back up to speed, Hamilton would afterwards work his way back up to seventh place, two positions away from the necessary number of points that would have allowed him to be the first rookie World Champion. However, his title chances might not yet be over: the McLaren team has announced it will appeal the stewards' decision not to sanction the BMW Sauber and Williams teams for possibly using 'cool fuel' during the Brazilian GP, claiming that precise information was not available. If the FIA's Court of Appeal were to overturn the decision and sanction both teams with exclusion, that would remove drivers Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld from the rankings and allow Lewis Hamilton to jump from seventh to fourth position in the race's final standings - thereby giving him enough points to become the 2007 World Champion. While McLaren have declared their motive is to support their drivers' best interests, Hamilton himself does not at all feel comfortable with the procedure. "Being promoted after some people have been thrown out is not the way I want to do it," he told Reuters. His thoughts also went to Ferrari driver and provisional title holder Kimi Raikkonen: "To have it taken away is a bit cruel and probably not good for the sport."

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So its not bad luck or reliability, it was 2 rookie mistakes. I guess Lewis doesn't have as cool head as many would like to think.

Come on, this is his first year. He will make mistakes. Look at his achievements. Staggering for a rookie.

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Originally posted by stren So its not bad luck or reliability, it was 2 rookie mistakes. I guess Lewis doesn't have as cool head as many would like to think.

Indeed. I bet he wishes he was more like you instead.

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Originally posted by Omega_M Come on, this is his first year. He will make mistakes. Look at his achievements. Staggering for a rookie.

Yes and no. Yes, he did very well in his first season, better than any other rookie has ever done, but he did it with help. He had the best car on the grid, along with Alanso, and he has been groomed for 12 years by Dennis.

The second half of the season, really showed him to be a rookie. In the first half, I think he was just having fun, excited to be even fighting for wins, let alone the title. Once it kicked in, that he may actually have a chance, his nerves came a bit undone.

I won't say he failed or chocked, just that he acted like a rookie when it got tough. China and Brazil were both a case of him trying too hard. He could have backed off and just a bit, and gotten much better results; infact his race engineer should have told him to do so. "Calm down, you will get through this, just keep your car straight, and don't over drive". The others played it really cool, and well since they have all been there before, why shouldn't they?

Great season by Lewis, hats off, but he is not as cool as the Ice Man.

Nothing beats ICEMAN

It felt so good witnessing him winning the championship
Still he was as COOL as ever

NO WHINNING, NO CRYING

Get into the car and drive it flat out

Thats KIMI for you

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Originally posted by Omega_M Come on, this is his first year. He will make mistakes. Look at his achievements. Staggering for a rookie.

exactly, yet the british media think he's superhuman

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Indeed. I bet he wishes he was more like you instead.

Well at least he's not a miserable gimp like yourself.

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Originally posted by Orko Yes and no. Yes, he did very well in his first season, better than any other rookie has ever done, but he did it with help. He had the best car on the grid, along with Alanso, and he has been groomed for 12 years by Dennis. The second half of the season, really showed him to be a rookie. In the first half, I think he was just having fun, excited to be even fighting for wins, let alone the title. Once it kicked in, that he may actually have a chance, his nerves came a bit undone. I won't say he failed or chocked, just that he acted like a rookie when it got tough. China and Brazil were both a case of him trying too hard. He could have backed off and just a bit, and gotten much better results; infact his race engineer should have told him to do so. "Calm down, you will get through this, just keep your car straight, and don't over drive". The others played it really cool, and well since they have all been there before, why shouldn't they? Great season by Lewis, hats off, but he is not as cool as the Ice Man.

How would you perform if all they talk about is you and try to present yourself in a bad way no matter how good you do. For example last race when Kimi encountered Lewis in his qualifing run, he got attacked by the media for blocking Kimi which was just a way to get a good story for their newspaper. Add that the pressure of becoming the youngest world champion ever and everybody expecting you to win the WDC puts alot of pressure on a 22 year old rookie ( even MS couldn't handle that amount of pressure on certain moments in his carreer too ). Alonso and Kimi had nothing to loose and the media left them alone as they were the underdogs.

Probably the most domination sportsman nowadays is Federer (tennis) and allmost he failed when he had to deliver at very important occasions which he should have been easy for him ( such as Wimbledon 2007 trying to equal Bjorg his record ) due to media pressure while his competition being the underdog had an easy time, so this is not very uncommon happening what happened to Lewis.

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Originally posted by Timothy How would you perform if all they talk about is you and try to present yourself in a bad way no matter how good you do.

It's not about me, its about Hamilton and other drivers. I have not been racing for more than a decade, and am not getting paid a million dollars.

Alanso won the championship at the age of 24 (?) thats pretty close. He failed to handle a different kind of pressure this year, but hey, he already has two championships under his belt.

Massa and Kimi were playing with each other at the end of the race, awesome. They both set fastest laps near the end.

Kimi set the fastest lap of the race on lap 66, @ 1:12.445.
Massa set the 3rd best time on lap 71, @ 1:12.584.

I think this is going to be a great rivalry next year. Massa has battled with everybody this year, and we know he likes to race. He will be so hungry for a championship, he will go all out. Although he was fairly beat this year, I expect him to really fight next season.

Now the question is, who is best with out traction control? I can't wait till the shut that shit off. I want to see more mistakes dammit.

Alonso and McLaren parted ways today. I don't know if one party paid the other to get out of the deal. It sounded like a mutual split according the report on Autosport.com

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

When Alonso joined Mclaren as a world champion, he expected the team to revolve around HIM. In comes a rookie driver with no formula 1 experience and turns everything upside down ! To the point that the former world champion is out of the team now.

And in other news,

Schumi fastest on day 2 in Barcelona

WTF is up with this man ? Jesus

World Title hearing takes place today

Mclarens are such little bitches. Can't seem to take their $ 100 million fine quietly. Want to stir more shit.

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