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| Originally posted by Sushipunk Tell me you're not going to be running this shit off in every thread now? |
There are stupid people everywhere in America, across the board. You're evidence enough of that.
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| Originally posted by enydo There are stupid people everywhere in America, across the board. You're evidence enough of that. |
Nou's getting a grip of what other world has been thinking for decades. 
coming out..check...
"they're not cleaning it up, they're covering it up"
mad world madness in a cup mad MeNNNNN...
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...icle7146177.ece
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| BP 'manipulating search results' on Google following oil spill BP is being accused of trying to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo, as it attempts to salvage its battered image following the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico. |
I've seen more than my fair share of the illiterate redneck thats missing some teeth, but nou, have you been to the south? It's probably nothing like you've built up in your head
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| Originally posted by Sunsnail I've seen more than my fair share of the illiterate redneck thats missing some teeth, but nou, have you been to the south? It's probably nothing like you've built up in your head |
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| Originally posted by Sunsnail I've seen more than my fair share of the illiterate redneck thats missing some teeth, but nou, have you been to the south? It's probably nothing like you've built up in your head |
And the hits just keep on coming.....
We have 2000 skimmers in the United States. Florida Senator George LeMieux directly appealed to the president the other day on the Senate floor, why, after 61 days, we have only 20 out there working (reduced from 32 last week!).
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| Last week -- a week ago tomorrow, I met with the President of the United States and Admiral Allen in Pensacola. At that time, I raised the issue of skimmers. Why are there so few skimmers in the Gulf of Mexico? Why were there only at that time 32 skimmers off the coast of Florida? The President and Admiral Allen told me that they were making every effort they could to get more skimmers to the gulf and that they were welcoming foreign skimmers, skimmers from foreign countries come coming to our country to aid in the effort. I told them at that time that there was a State Department report stating that 21 instances of help have been made and they were refused. Come to find out through discussions with my office that there are still offers and there have been offers from foreign countries and ports for skimmers and that, in fact, those skimmers were refused. And I'll come to the floor tomorrow to talk about that in more detail. But the state of affairs is that there are only now 20 skimmers off the coast of Florida for. When there were 32 last week, there are now just 20... while there are 2,000 skimmers available in the United States alone. That number comes from Admiral Allen. |
http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spi...uicide/19529447
damn...
Health advisory lifted for Pensacola Beach
Storm may slam Gulf, BP cleanup sites
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What is the worst case scenario if the storm(s) will hit with full force ?
They are already doing controlled burns, and it is a good thing! If the surface oil and methane gas and H2S and benzene can burn off, then we don't have to worry about it anymore.
The problem is if it doesn't burn off. It could linger and build and build and then it could go off when we least expect it, without the benefit of torrential rains to control it.
The real danger here is the distribution of all this toxic soup into the Fresh Water reservoirs and the storm surge and wave action pushing this toxic soup into the bays and harbors and marshes and estuaries.
The second and larger danger is if the dissolved Methane gases are disturbed and decide to change state from solution to gas! Then we get a giant tsunami, toxic air for 100's of miles, and possibility of the large scale explosion that you mention. The rough seas and cooling rains could trigger just such a change of state, and the lightning could ignite the gases. Even if it doesn't ignite, the massive volume change would be devastating!
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What is the worst case scenario if the storm(s) will hit with full force ?
That's very hard to guage without accurate information, and accurate information has been the thing in shortest supply (besides common sense) in this debacle.
But at a minimum, wherever the storm pushes a surge ashore, the land will be covered in oil to one degree or another.
The main two things I worry about are these:
1. Wave action churns the waters releasing the methane, hydrogen sulfides, benzine, and other gases into the wind streams. I'm not so sure that what will result will be lethal (probably not), but it surely will not be healthy to breathe it and will probably cause respiratory problems among the very young and very old.
2. After the storm passes, lightning strikes set an area of oiled water, marshlands, or a town on fire and that fire spreads uncontrollably because everything is soaked in oily water.
Might be way offbase.......but....seems like two logical progressions to me.
A very remote possiblity, repeat, REMOTE, is that IF this turns into a heavy-duty hurricane with extremely low barometric pressure, AND it passes over the wellhead, then the pressure gradients MIGHT change enough to trigger a large methane sublimation event. If that happens, all bets are off: anything could occur.
Before anyone flames me for fear-mongering I repeat: REMOTE, IF, AND, MIGHT. It is a possibility that should be acknowledged and prepared for, even if it turns out to be unnecessary. I'd rather have a plan and equipment in place that turns out to be unneeded that to have people be told "tough luck, we gambled and lost, sorry 'bout that."
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Atlantic Has Its First Tropical Depression of 2010 Season
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Expecting Alex in the Caribbean
Forecasters on June 25 had given System 93L in the western Caribbean an 80 percent chance of developing into Tropical Depression Alex, and weekends seem to always birth tropical depressions. The GOES-13 satellite captured a visible image of both System 93L and a second low east of the Leeward Islands that has a much lesser chance of development this weekend.
The Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite called GOES-13 captured a visible image of System 93L and the second area of cloudiness and showers east of the Leewards in a satellite image on June 25 at 14:45 UTC (10:45 a.m. EDT). The satellite image was created by NASA's GOES Project, located at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. GOES-13 is operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=6365894.jpg
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Black Tears: The saddest video in the world - BP killed the planet
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| Originally posted by The17sss http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLib...774%3Cbr%20/%3E Why are we only using 20 of the 2000 skimmers we have? Admiral Allen's answer: wait for it.... some of those skimmers are not available in case they're needed elsewhere for an oil spill. What the fuck is going on!? That's like saying we can't send the fire truck to your burning house in case we need it for another fire. Why isn't this gross mismanagement being plastered all over the media outlets!? <---(rhetorical question) |
Are Americans even trying?
The ecological oil disaster has been solve.
They put a wedding band around the BOP and it stopped putting out.
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| Originally posted by jupiterone http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spi...uicide/19529447 damn... |
Storm incoming. May have to pull back people for up to 2 weeks. Epic clusterfuck of a fail imminent.
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| Originally posted by Sunsnail |
spectacular clean up by the team
oh wait...
KINDRA ARNESAN SPOKE OF THIS DURING HER CONFERENCE
re-up
BP Gulf Oil Spill - Unreleased 60 Minutes Documentary
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| June 13, 2010 - 60 minutes Australia documentary pulled from airing on request of British Petroleum. Part 1 |
.. WHERE IS THE REST!
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit .. WHERE IS THE REST! |
He just edited with parts two and three - I think.
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker He just edited with parts two and three - I think. |
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| Originally posted by get nyce it's a FIRECANE! |
Incompetence, thy name is "Federal Government". Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen has been plastered on the tv doing damage control over the federal response. Interesting because.....
In 2002, Allen helped write a document presented at the "2002 International Oil Spill Conference" to develop new solutions to combat oil spills.
Of the major issues identified in case of an event in the Gulf of Mexico: waiving the Jones Act, allowing foreign assistance immediately (page 3).
Thad Allen was in charge of the entire region (page 2 of document), and developed the new Standard Operating Procedure to instantly waive the Jones Act following a major spill.
So in 2010, it took 71 days for Thad Allen to waive the Jones Act.... ignoring the Standard Operating Procedures put in place 8 yeas ago by.... THAD ALLEN. I love bueracracy.
http://www.iosc.org/papers/IOSC%202003%20a470.pdf
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