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Originally posted by Zharen You're from MI? What do you think of this? http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...ac954b8c90c5716 I think it sends a bad message to your constituents that the state is unwilling to give you guys the full amount of UI weeks just because they want to slash across the board, and let the feds deal with it. But perhaps I'm missing something here.

He's also signed into law what's being called a financial emergency marshal law act which would allow appointed financial managers to take over a city's governance and terminate union contracts.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...ancial-managers

The termination of unemployment benefits is icing on the cake to a state still reeling from the last Republican governor and bad business practices of companies like GM. Snyder's immediate democratic predecessor didn't have a lot of success versus a largely Republican legislature and, to be sure, a lot of the measures that Democrats were able to enact, such as anti-smoking legislation in bars and restaurants, were of nominal benefit if not entirely counter-productive.

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Originally posted by Moongoose Thats why there is a huge recall movement in almost every state wirh a fresh republican governor or republican majority in the legislature. In WIsconsin, Walker coldnt win an election now if he had Jesus as his running mate, half of the state wants him recalled and his approval is about 35% (Poll from the start of the months, cant bother looking for a newer one but i can only imagine that as time goes on, and he does more shit like this his approval must be dropping ). People voted for republicans because the are supposed to be good on the economy and shit...silly people Instead what they got was numerous votes on abortion (nothing like making abortion illegal to create jobs), taxing the poor while giving tax cuts to rich people and on jobs...i say, are those crickets im hearing?

My girlfriend told me a story about how Wisconsin fire-fighters closed their accounts at a bank which funded Walker, which basically forced it to close, early, the day they did it.

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview..._funded_walker/

I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more fly-in-the-ointment types of action, in the future, as well. Personally, I've had it with this bullshit. Everything I've been seeing or reading about Republicans reeks of predation, in one form or another.

Republicans =

We could use more blue states in 2012.

Oh man, sorry to hear it Eddie.

MI gets so royally pounded by corporation, and then they fuck you even more when the economy tanks.

The only part of industry that does well there is defense contract manufacturing and military aerospace engineering, which is so weighted towards making very small numbers of people perversely wealthy it's probably not worth having in your state, especially with the corporate lobbying and control that goes with it.

I'm quietly confident about there being more blue states, come the next election. The shift from the last election to republican has not helped those states that did so, and unlike the situation with Bush, where he just over rode everything, they can't blame Obama for keeping them down or not letting him work with them.

on the contrary, Obama has been too keep to try to partner and help the other side, when what he really needed to do ram it up their manginas, whether they liked it not, and make them say thanks afterwards.

I think we're going to see the usual swing states, swing back to blue, and the usual blue seats, that were lost in 2010, go back to blue.

The more shit the republicans pull, the more fucking batshit and desperate they look.

Did you hear Santorum stating today that social security problems could be solved if there were tighter controls and less access to abortions, so we could have more population in the USA and could pay more people to look after the retired. I mean seriously, WTF.

I've heard of going for the old vote but fuck me, that's a new level bullshit right there.

The great thing is however, is that the republicans are doing all the work for the dems to hand them a tasty election win. I can't give much credit to the dems as they're been such pussies recently, but with enemies like that you really don't have a need for friends.

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Originally posted by Zharen We could use more blue states in 2012.

I've pretty much concluded, at this point, that if you were to personify today's Republican Party platform you'd wind up with an amalgamation of Jim Jones and Charles Manson. Republican spin imparted to events in the news along with ancillary punditry is practically psychopathic, as are the policies they've been able to enact. With absolutely no empathy, for instance, companies like Monsanto are allowed to bleed farmers dry while maximizing profits for itself. It seems to be that way for a lot of industry fields from banking to investing to energy. Corporations have been given a green light to victimize the consumer and there is little to no relief for that.

Democrats suffer from malignant optimism for believing that Republicans want a reasoned and fair exchange. When Democrats have demonstrated some awareness of Republican mob-styled plays, they still fuck up into their game, such as with the NPR executive who made a fool of himself in front of none other than James O'Keefe. I can't tell if the Democrats are traumatized and hyper-vigilant or simply naturally incompetent when it comes to putting up a fight but when you do shit like fire Juan Williams for being honest about his feelings (he wasn't making hate speech), you're pretty much guilty of enacting a thought reform campaign of your own.

Until the Democrats can pull their head out of their ass and figure out that Republicans are pretty much gaming them and are not interested in mutually beneficial compromise beyond what is necessary to achieve a lop-sided result, along with dropping the Political Correctness on steroids, which pulls shit like firing a black woman for speech excerpted from its favorably anecdotal context, America is fucked.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Oh man, sorry to hear it Eddie. MI gets so royally pounded by corporation, and then they fuck you even more when the economy tanks. The only part of industry that does well there is defense contract manufacturing and military aerospace engineering, which is so weighted towards making very small numbers of people perversely wealthy it's probably not worth having in your state, especially with the corporate lobbying and control that goes with it. I'm quietly confident about there being more blue states, come the next election. The shift from the last election to republican has not helped those states that did so, and unlike the situation with Bush, where he just over rode everything, they can't blame Obama for keeping them down or not letting him work with them. on the contrary, Obama has been too keep to try to partner and help the other side, when what he really needed to do ram it up their manginas, whether they liked it not, and make them say thanks afterwards. I think we're going to see the usual swing states, swing back to blue, and the usual blue seats, that were lost in 2010, go back to blue. The more shit the republicans pull, the more fucking batshit and desperate they look. Did you hear Santorum stating today that social security problems could be solved if there were tighter controls and less access to abortions, so we could have more population in the USA and could pay more people to look after the retired. I mean seriously, WTF. I've heard of going for the old vote but fuck me, that's a new level bullshit right there. The great thing is however, is that the republicans are doing all the work for the dems to hand them a tasty election win. I can't give much credit to the dems as they're been such pussies recently, but with enemies like that you really don't have a need for friends.

I've got a response for this but I'm going to start a new thread, since I feel like going on a fucking tear on shit I can't fucking stand about the U.S.A.

To bring it back on-topic:

The U.S. has started bringing A-10's and AC-130's into the fight, now that they've reduced Libyan air-superiority to all but high-velocity blood spatter carbonized to the interior of an SA-9 Gaskin's husk.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I've pretty much concluded, at this point, that if you were to personify today's Republican Party platform you'd wind up with an amalgamation of Jim Jones and Charles Manson. Republican spin imparted to events in the news along with ancillary punditry is practically psychopathic, as are the policies they've been able to enact. With absolutely no empathy, for instance, companies like Monsanto are allowed to bleed farmers dry while maximizing profits for itself. It seems to be that way for a lot of industry fields from banking to investing to energy. Corporations have been given a green light to victimize the consumer and there is little to no relief for that. Democrats suffer from malignant optimism for believing that Republicans want a reasoned and fair exchange. When Democrats have demonstrated some awareness of Republican mob-styled plays, they still fuck up into their game, such as with the NPR executive who made a fool of himself in front of none other than James O'Keefe. I can't tell if the Democrats are traumatized and hyper-vigilant or simply naturally incompetent when it comes to putting up a fight but when you do shit like fire Juan Williams for being honest about his feelings (he wasn't making hate speech), you're pretty much guilty of enacting a thought reform campaign of your own. Until the Democrats can pull their head out of their ass and figure out that Republicans are pretty much gaming them and are not interested in mutually beneficial compromise beyond what is necessary to achieve a lop-sided result, along with dropping the Political Correctness on steroids, which pulls shit like firing a black woman for speech excerpted from its favorably anecdotal context, America is fucked.

You know, I'm beginning to think the naivety and optimism of the Democrats goes with the territory; that the beliefs and values of being a liberal and democrat are at worst, an open season hunting invite for predatory politics and at best simply not compatible with with another group of people who just want to fuck you to make personal gains, not move things forward for the general population.

I wish some hardcore Dems would come forward and seize the party. It hink they book a no bullshit and fuck you too stance on their policies, the republicans would want to work with them rather than just taking them for whatever they can.

Back on topic myself - I saw reports today that Gadaffi duck pwnd the rebels when they tried to take his home town and they had to make a panicked retreat?

Nato should make conversation with Gaddafi rather than attacking on them. If European union and America offer Gaddafi a safer exit then that would be good for the Libyan people. Now Libya is suffering from the foreign attacks and people are also suffering directly.

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Originally posted by alphshuffel Nato should make conversation with Gaddafi rather than attacking on them. If European union and America offer Gaddafi a safer exit then that would be good for the Libyan people. Now Libya is suffering from the foreign attacks and people are also suffering directly.

You're an idiot

Syria exploding in a few hour....

Are you thick? Are you a fucking idiot?!?

These people want change and want it now, no external power can do anything about it.

You are seriously delusional!

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Originally posted by malek Are you thick? Are you a fucking idiot?!? These people want change and want it now, no external power can do anything about it. You are seriously delusional!

we'll see in about 10 years what really went down in Libya "fuckin idiot".

You know, if you want to advocate that the US is an imperialist power set on dominating and controlling the Middle East and North African region of the world, you would be better suited to make such a case without using a madman who is currently butchering his own people. Just a thought there champ.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer we'll see in about 10 years what really went down in Libya "fuckin idiot".

What's your point? Where are you going with this? What do you think, Libya and Syria will hoist US flags instead of theirs?

You think that 10 years is sufficient to setup durable democracies? Even the most optimists as myself don't believe so.

It take generations to get at the level of western democracies, and it has to start somewhere and sometime... and the time is now.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer we'll see in about 10 years what really went down in Libya "fuckin idiot".

you're a fucking twat. I spoke to libyan guy today, whose parents were taken by ghdaffi's men 6 weeks ago and has not heard from them since and no one, ont other family or friends have sen them. hey;ve basically conceded that they were executed, and that won't change in 10 years, neither will the people on that PanAm flight.

Shove that up conspiratorial arse.

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Originally posted by malek What's your point? Where are you going with this? What do you think, Libya and Syria will hoist US flags instead of theirs? You think that 10 years is sufficient to setup durable democracies? Even the most optimists as myself don't believe so. It take generations to get at the level of western democracies, and it has to start somewhere and sometime... and the time is now.

have to agree with malek here.

Look at those filthy Americans and Zionists pushing at gunpoint those protesters! It's all Al Jazeera's fault!

All this in the last 24 hours.

VERY GRAPHIC!

Damn, there is something seriously wrong with the world this year. There's been way too many uprisings and people getting killed in such a short amount of time. I really don't know what to make of these Middle East protests anymore. It's spread like a disease.

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Originally posted by Zharen Damn, there is something seriously wrong with the world this year. There's been way too many uprisings and people getting killed in such a short amount of time. I really don't know what to make of these Middle East protests anymore. It's spread like a disease.

Well, that's one way to describe Democracy, I guess.

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Originally posted by Zharen Damn, there is something seriously wrong with the world this year. There's been way too many uprisings and people getting killed in such a short amount of time. I really don't know what to make of these Middle East protests anymore. It's spread like a disease.

Yea man, I thought revolutions were supposed to be flowers and singing and shit... Who would have thought people might have to die?

Fuck. What a world.

It will only get worse. Wait until China and Saudi Arabia experience a revolution. Watch the world plunge into chaos then.

We should just nuke each other and get it over with...

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby We should just nuke each other and get it over with...

As long as the rich get taken out with us, then I'm all for it.

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