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Originally posted by DancingMonkey If a person receives 500 Rem in a short period of time, they have a 50% chance of dying.

That's with no medical attention at all, and it's up to 50%. Saying that 50% of people will die if exposed to that amount of radiation is pretty excessive.

The amount of contradictory statements I am reading is amazing.

Listen, radiation is dangerous, but its not like poison gas, it won't start killing people instantly, at least not in the amounts that could be released even under a worst possible case scenario.

Everyone freaking out on the west coast (I read something in a Daily Mail article, lol, which said that people on the west coast had all bought potassium iodide tablets in panic and people would couldn't get them were crying) has little to worry about. The Pacific is HUGE, it contains incredibly active weather patterns, including rain and high winds. Even in a worst case scenario the amount of radiation reaching here would be barely visible above background levels and certainly not a health hazard.

Again, from everything I have read, the worst possible case is a total failure of the containment structure, from THE BOTTOM down. This would allow another safety feature of this BWR style design to initiate, and that is for the molten fuel to pool in the base and spread out in to a non-critical mass, again cooling.

The chance of this radiation being exposed widely to the atmosphere is small, because if there is a failure of the containment vessel, then the whole system becomes unpressurized, negating the chance for a large steam explosion, which is usually the method of dispersal for radioactive fall out in a nuclear accident.

I dunno anyone who is worried about the radiation out here.

I do know people who have family in Japan who are worried...about their family in Japan.

One of the things they are worried about with the reactor is that if multiple rods fall or thrown into the pool or whatever, they fear it might cause critical mass to be reached and that wouldn't be good. at all.

And if a building is damaged or cracked, plenty of pressure can build up inside still. And if it builds pressure faster than steam/gasses can escape, then it can still go boom.

I don't think horrible anything will happen *knock on wood*, but every time something new happens it seems like some new danger or how things could turn out come to light. And I'm not the crap coming from CNN (they are good for initial headliner and video online. do research for details!) or other media that sensationalizes everything (CNN USA has been doing the fear stuff with the nulcear plants since it started, when it wasn't even considered much...terrible). If you must do CNN, try to watch CNNi not CNN USA.

GAHHH!!! I can't fucking stand all the talking heads on tv now! It's a disaster... no it's not a disaster. The radiation isn't bad... correction, we now have nuclear snow and your children will be born with a 3rd eye in the center of their forehead.

"Here's our latest expert, John Doe, from the Nuclear Geological Seismic Tectonic University of Tectonic Richter Scales who says the U.S. has a 1 in 12 chance of experiencing a tsunami by the year 2017." Shut the fuck up! The worthless media is running around with their heads up their assess inundating the world with 99% incorrect or unsubstantiated speculation, creating so much panic that pharmacies 15,000 miles away in Philadelphia are running out of potassium iodide.

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Originally posted by The17sss GAHHH!!! I can't fucking stand all the talking heads on tv now! It's a disaster... no it's not a disaster. The radiation isn't bad... correction, we now have nuclear snow and your children will be born with a 3rd eye in the center of their forehead. "Here's our latest expert, John Doe, from the Nuclear Geological Seismic Tectonic University of Tectonic Richter Scales who says the U.S. has a 1 in 12 chance of experiencing a tsunami by the year 2017." Shut the fuck up! The worthless media is running around with their heads up their assess inundating the world with 99% incorrect or unsubstantiated speculation, creating so much panic that pharmacies 15,000 miles away in Philadelphia are running out of potassium iodide.

+1,800,578 Isotopes.

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The situation at the quake-hit Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant in northeastern Japan ''has worsened considerably,'' the Institute for Science and International Security said in a statement released Tuesday. Referring to fresh explosions that occurred earlier in the day at the site and problems in a pool storing spent nuclear fuel rods, the Washington-based think tank said, ''This accident can no longer be viewed as a level 4 on the International Nuclear and Radiological Events scale that ranks events from 1 to 7.'' Noting that a level 4 incident involves ''only local radiological consequences,'' it said the ongoing crisis is ''now closer to a level 6, and it may unfortunately reach a level 7'' -- a worst case scenario with extensive health and environmental consequences. ''The international community should increase assistance to Japan to both contain the emergency at the reactors and to address the wider contamination. We need to find a solution together,'' it said.

(Courtesy of Kyodo)

I hear the helicopter idea is out of the question now :/

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Originally posted by jester (Courtesy of Kyodo) I hear the helicopter idea is out of the question now :/

that can't be true, Nou told us its not really that bad. even though his voice is getting shriller with each post.

Whatever the outcome, this is a total fucking disaster. Can't imagine what they're going through

I keep thinking about the poor bastards working at the plant trying to control it...must be terrifying.

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Originally posted by Jackson Whatever the outcome, this is a total fucking disaster. Can't imagine what they're going through I keep thinking about the poor bastards working at the plant trying to control it...must be terrifying.

I am with you on that one. They are living a nightmare

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Guy who designs rods is on CNN and says through his own sources he's learned the radiation is so high they have had to remove the other personnel so there's prob no one in there to help work on keeping it cool which is why it's all going downhill.

Can someone explain to me why anyone thought after Chernobyl that building nuclear power plants was still a good idea? They are on an island surrounded by water... can't they utilize that in some way? Wind turbines? I just don't understand why they chose to use the most dangerous form of energy production in an area that is so disaster prone.

I don't get it.

That's a fantastic idea, why don't they just stick up 10000+ wind turbines in it's place. Theresa saves the day again!

Dolphins 1 Japan 1

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Originally posted by EddieZilker +1,800,578 Isotopes.

shit.....now we have to evacuate the CORe

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike That's a fantastic idea, why don't they just stick up 10000+ wind turbines in it's place. Theresa saves the day again!

God.... your idiocy blows me away sometimes. I love how you just thrive off of making ridiculous assumptions in order to make yourself look smarter and belittle other people. Well done Feel better about your pathetic existence now?

There are a lot of other ways to generate power that are far safer than nuclear power, I named a couple. Not that it's relevant anyway.

It just doesn't make sense as to why they chose nuclear power when it seems like a rather stupid decision for their location.

Chernobyl and Three Mile Island both happened mainly due to human error.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike That's a fantastic idea, why don't they just stick up 10000+ wind turbines in it's place. Theresa saves the day again!

You could even line them up along the coast and blow tsunamis back from the shore.

Ah!






I see we've once again crossed the w-ahsley event horizon.

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Originally posted by Theresa Can someone explain to me why anyone thought after Chernobyl that building nuclear power plants was still a good idea? They are on an island surrounded by water... can't they utilize that in some way? Wind turbines? I just don't understand why they chose to use the most dangerous form of energy production in an area that is so disaster prone. I don't get it.

They don't have any natural resource and have decided to use nuclear power to be less dependent on oil. While adding wind farms isn't a bad option it wouldn't be enough. The problem was they had insufficient safe guards. With nuclear power there is a small margin for error. Btw, I wouldn't be to eager to see what would happen in California with a similar size earthquake.

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Originally posted by Theresa God.... your idiocy blows me away sometimes.

Christ

I'm not sure what's going to happen next with this crisis. Things could escalate further. Things might settle down. However, the majority of the Japanese will wake up tomorrow to good news.

The good news is that they are not Theresa.

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Originally posted by shaw You could even line them up along the coast and blow tsunamis back from the shore.

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Originally posted by Theresa God.... your idiocy blows me away sometimes. I love how you just thrive off of making ridiculous assumptions in order to make yourself look smarter and belittle other people. Well done Feel better about your pathetic existence now? There are a lot of other ways to generate power that are far safer than nuclear power, I named a couple. Not that it's relevant anyway. It just doesn't make sense as to why they chose nuclear power when it seems like a rather stupid decision for their location.

Because it was the best, simplest, cheapest and yes safest way to satisfy japans ever increasing energy needs. Simple as that.


Also if you knew anything at all about Chernobly and was not just scared of the word you would have known that what caused that explosion was a series of unfortunate events that had to happen in just the right order for it to go seriously wrong. If one thing went differently during that 12 hour proces when nobody was paying attention there woudnt be a Chernobly. It was a series of unfortunate events that happened once and in part because of chernobyl is unlikely to happen ever again.

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Originally posted by shaw You could even line them up along the coast and blow tsunamis back from the shore.

Okay, I have to admit that fully made me LOL

Heh, CNN has a "GE whistleblower" on right now who resigned in 1975 "in protest" to a design flaw he found in the Mark 1 Reactor design.

CNN and fear news coverage. Gotta love it.

Smoke/steam coming from the power plant

What the hell are they feeding you guys?

I've joked about it until now but it doesn't seem to work, so I'm going to try a completely different approach:

CALM THE FUCK DOWN!

There's no reason to panic or to be that much concerned... specially across the Pacific!

...and he was never heard from again.

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