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Posted by diego on Jun-09-2004 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
yes. Trust me, few things I like more than getting pumped and then running down to the beach and having cars full of girls whistle and hoot to me


ok, just to prove you wrong, check out this guys journal, he's something like 195lbs <5% body fat and does weights and cardio on the same day. i know it's big but reading the last few pages should show you how he's doing it

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=29874


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-09-2004 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
ok, just to prove you wrong, check out this guys journal, he's something like 195lbs <5% body fat and does weights and cardio on the same day. i know it's big but reading the last few pages should show you how he's doing it


i don't see a link?


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-09-2004 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
ok, just to prove you wrong, check out this guys journal, he's something like 195lbs <5% body fat and does weights and cardio on the same day. i know it's big but reading the last few pages should show you how he's doing it



ah link????


Posted by diego on Jun-09-2004 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i don't see a link?


woops silly me, should be fixed now


Posted by Orbax on Jun-09-2004 17:45:

My only thing would be that these girls haven't really ever done any training before. Their bodies don't have the mechanisms in place for rapid recovery and the cardio system probably isn't able to cope with supplying their bodies with what they need for that much activity.

Time constraints also play a role in all this


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-09-2004 17:54:

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=29874



dude is a beast..


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-09-2004 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
woops silly me, should be fixed now


hey diego...did that guy post his recent pics? i wanted to see the before and after...but i didn't see one?


Posted by Omegasox on Jun-09-2004 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
well go to www.exrx.net and read the results on the study of HIIT versuslonger endurance training, they would prove otherwise


People will always have varying opinions and results, but it has been proven that fat reserves are not used no matter what type of cardio you are doing until ~20 minutes in.

And I'm talking about 80-85%, not just walking on a flat treadmill for an hour. A treadmill on the highest incline is a great source of cardio.

Edit: Just saw their experiment. The results are impressive, but it was only used with 17 individuals and no control group. =\ And they changed the intervals of exercise, after starting with a measly 30 minutes.


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-09-2004 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
People will always have varying opinions and results, but it has been proven that fat reserves are not used no matter what type of cardio you are doing until ~20 minutes in.



agreed, that is why its best to deplete all glucose energy first then get to cardio if you can, but its a bitch...


Posted by diego on Jun-10-2004 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
hey diego...did that guy post his recent pics? i wanted to see the before and after...but i didn't see one?


here's his most recent http://www.wannabebigforums.com/att...achmentid=11499 and here's his progress pics http://www.wannabebigforums.com/att...achmentid=11897 , i wish he'd take better pictures though.


Posted by roysoro1515 on Jun-10-2004 01:35:

damn, nice improvment. i didnt get a chance to read the whole thread, but i was wondering i am 5'8 and weigh 180 should i lose weight first then start working muscles? ive been pretty big my whole life and i want to do something about it now. thanks


Posted by diego on Jun-10-2004 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by roysoro1515
damn, nice improvment. i didnt get a chance to read the whole thread, but i was wondering i am 5'8 and weigh 180 should i lose weight first then start working muscles? ive been pretty big my whole life and i want to do something about it now. thanks


depends what body you want to have?


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-10-2004 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
here's his most recent http://www.wannabebigforums.com/att...achmentid=11499 and here's his progress pics http://www.wannabebigforums.com/att...achmentid=11897 , i wish he'd take better pictures though.


well...no offense, but i know what 195lbs of muscle looks like and that's not it. there is no doubt that he's made improvement, but that is not 30lbs of muscle he added...

he does have some pretty crazy abs though


Posted by diego on Jun-10-2004 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...no offense, but i know what 195lbs of muscle looks like and that's not it. there is no doubt that he's made improvement, but that is not 30lbs of muscle he added...

he does have some pretty crazy abs though


well according to his journal he has maintained something like 4% body fat, from the start, so i dunno


Posted by roysoro1515 on Jun-10-2004 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
depends what body you want to have?

semi cutt..but not bulky i lost 20 lbs since last summer by going to the gym, but the only improment ive seen is my arms and legs. my upper body is still flabby though maybe too much beer thanks though


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-10-2004 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
well according to his journal he has maintained something like 4% body fat, from the start, so i dunno


i'm looking for a pic of my friend when he won this bodybuilding title back senior year in high school. i'll show you what i'm talking about...hopefully i can find it...


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-10-2004 02:13:

ok...i found the pics. i realised that i won't be around for a week to respond to any comments so i think that i'll post them when i get back again..


Posted by Orbax on Jun-10-2004 22:06:

k here is my chest after a month of workin out





any improvement?

heres old


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jun-10-2004 22:12:

Tough to tell, but it looks like you've seen some decent improvement. Were the pics taken before or after a workout?


Posted by Orbax on Jun-10-2004 22:14:

both are before with a little bit of flexing to pop out

ive also lost 3 lbs.

Im just gonna post this again so it isnt last post of a page hehe
k here is my chest after a month of workin out


heres old



heres new June 11th





Posted by Sean Walsh on Jun-10-2004 22:17:

If both were taken before a workout then that's definite improvement.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-10-2004 23:46:

Ive started doing truncated pyramids hehe

Ill warm up with 60s then ill do a set of 6 with the 70s to get a little more stress on it. then i do 2 sets of 8 with the 80s and then drop back down to 70s and start doing sets of 8 with those.

I think I was wasting a lot of energy before with doing two sets of 10 with 70s before jumping up again. Way too much warm up.

so yeah, its been feelin pretty good, im glad there is a noticeable difference, sometimes its hard to see when you look at it every day


Posted by JayD on Jun-10-2004 23:49:

Someone explain something.

Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid.

Also if your trying to get cut & build muscle at the same time. Wouldn't whey protien be a good supplement all the same?

JaY


Posted by Orbax on Jun-11-2004 00:07:

Creatine works by osmotic pressure. It creates a super saturation of liquid outside the cell (the liquid contains creatine) and because of the imbalance the cells get injected with creatine and stuff. If you stop taking creatine youll lose some lbs in water weight, but if its actually givin you more energy or at least the placebo of it and youre working out harder youll still be creating a stronger thicker muscle fiber.

Just realize that youll lose weight when you stop, thats all.


Protein tends to pack on the lbs. When youre trying to cut its a lot of extra calories you dont really need. Id say 1 shake a day instead of the 3-5 a lot of people have would be more than adequate to supply you with what you need.

What cutting is going through and removing excess scar tissue thats making you puffy and not as densely packed. Also tends to cut into fat reserves due to the caloric reduction and same work load over all.


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-11-2004 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
k here is my chest after a month of workin out





any improvement?

heres old



looking good bro, keep up the hard work.


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