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Originally posted by EricB. I am retired. i retired the legacy of vivid boy, my online persona. It was fun fuckin with people but I dont use ta for that anymore.

Oh, well you aren't TA, and you are not the COR. We still fuck with people here, so get back in the program or sod off.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Oh, well you aren't TA, and you are not the COR. We still fuck with people here, so get back in the program or sod off.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Obviously you are the only one who thinks I am just taking the piss here. If I was I probably woulda given up a while ago or said "haha fuck you i dont really give a shit" when I got bored.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Compared to people in the US that are a hodgepodge of every european country yes. I think that lineages that stay inside their national and for a larger sense genetic lines tend to do better. A strong sense of national identity and racial identity can never be a bad thing in terms of dealing with social structures and institutions within those groups. The problem in the US is that there is no national or racial identity. I mean we have a lot of amazing things, but the culture that it ends up as is basically mediocre. You look at Asians and they tend to be over all more intelligent and diligent and I think that comes from them being homogeneous for the most part. They have a very pure culture which comes from a strong national and racial identity. Once you have those then people can begin to see things as working as part of group for a greater good than just themselves. In the US we don't see that, since we have no one national or racial identity, our views on the group as a whole are somewhat baseless and that leads to a weakening society. Thats just something I been formulating for the last few months. Who knows how true it is, but its an interesting way to look at things.

There was actually a study a while back that found more ethnically diverse communities have lower levels of trust. Makes sense, most will find it harder to trust "different" people.

I think that is more about culture than genetics, though.

On the other hand cultural blending leads to interesting and sometimes brilliant results. Just look at America's musical history.

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Originally posted by EricB. you and ******** need to sit down and eat shrooms together. you are both fuckin whackos.

Its not an idea of racial superiority for anyone group, but that people tend to do better when they are in social structures that have been with them for hundreds or thousands of years prior. There is a greater sense of community which is very important for people to have to work towards common goals.

I think that is one of the main problems with African Americans in the US. They were brought over here as slaves, they lost any sort of cultural identity. They started to create their own but having lost what they had prior they never have been able to replicate the social and national structures that help other groups thrive.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I do not think the world is ready for humanism in the sense that you can look at it from "we are all people." Its a nice thought but its obviously not working. It is an admirable goal and we do need to see it if our species (the most important thing, above national or genetic identity is our identity as a species) is to survive, but I do not think that we are even close to that yet.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Its not an idea of racial superiority for anyone group, but that people tend to do better when they are in social structures that have been with them for hundreds or thousands of years prior. There is a greater sense of community which is very important for people to have to work towards common goals. I think that is one of the main problems with African Americans in the US. They were brought over here as slaves, they lost any sort of cultural identity. They started to create their own but having lost what they had prior they never have been able to replicate the social and national structures that help other groups thrive.

btw i thought we were talking suicide here

Optimally, this thread should be closed because I don't think I've ever read so much fucked up in my life. Joss is right. I'm telling you from my own experience - he's right.


I had a big post ready to qualify that but you people haven't earned that level of trust from me. I will say only that it's been a little over twenty years, since my mother was killed by a man who then committed suicide. I'm not going to fucking get into a debate about how the catastrophe has post-traumatically shaped the inflexibility of my opinion. That would be too much trouble and you people, some of whom are, however jokingly or not, posting coercive suicide advice over the internet, just haven't even come close to earning the respect I'd show by delving into it with you.

jesus, people, just shut the fuck up already

It's amusing how so many think that their personal experiences are so generalizable. They conceptualize a paradigm based on their narrow perception of a singlar experience, and they think that it gives them some great insight. But, in reality, they can't even see their own experiences clearly, clouded as they are by emotion, much less can they comprehend the breadth of experience in this world. It's rather diappointing, but I suppose they can be forgiven for their humanity.

Wow... so there's this thread here.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Wow... so there's this thread here.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper

That John Walsh / Expired tag bit was funny because it recently happened to me. The expired tag not the body in the car!

It does remind me how a few months ago, a friend called me up telling me that someone I used to know when I was 18/19 had choked his girlfriend to death and drove around with her lifeless body in the passenger seat for 12 hours!!! He went over to his friends houses with the dead body. He ended up turning himself in.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit

Which one is Echos... Imagine if she was in this thread too... Your minds...

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I do not think the world is ready for humanism in the sense that you can look at it from "we are all people." Its a nice thought but its obviously not working. It is an admirable goal and we do need to see it if our species (the most important thing, above national or genetic identity is our identity as a species) is to survive, but I do not think that we are even close to that yet.

Funny, why does it work where I live?

Really, the only reason why this seems to be a problem in the US is because "interracial marriages" are not as numerous as they could be. As Brian (BoJingles) stated, this distrust is cultural rather than genetic. Have you ever heard of a racial uprising in Brazil? I doubt it, most people that look European have African genes and vice-versa. And the Native Brazilians have their share in the gene pool as well, we banged them before they vanished.

I, for instance, can trace my ancestry to all inhabited continents in the world, except Oceania (I'm counting North and South America as one single continent, by the way) and this is pretty much the norm here. The only kind of distrust you're likely to find here is with foreigners, even if they share a common genetic background.

The "it's not working" bit? I don't buy it. At all.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker

Sorry to hear that, by the way

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit

Which one is Echos... Imagine if she was in this thread too... Your minds...

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Originally posted by Arbiter It's amusing how so many think that their personal experiences are so generalizable. They conceptualize a paradigm based on their narrow perception of a singlar experience, and they think that it gives them some great insight. But, in reality, they can't even see their own experiences clearly, clouded as they are by emotion, much less can they comprehend the breadth of experience in this world. It's rather diappointing, but I suppose they can be forgiven for their humanity.

I think that this post best sums up the thread, and ultimately my response to every post that CD has made. Having had half-a-day to let this thread gestate, I can fully understand where CD is coming from. Now, before you guys get your panties in a bunch, that's not to say that I necessarily agree with him, but I am willing to say that yes, CD, I see your point. However, you're so stuck in the mindset of what happened to your mom's side of the family that it has rendered you incapable of even so much as seeing our point regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

What happened happened. Your family dealt with it, and it most certainly had an impact on you. It is apparent, however, given the responses you threw at Jenny and myself regarding hypothetical suicide of our family, that you feel your situation applies to each and every family that has dealt, is dealing and will deal with suicide.

I hope you're well-aware that everybody handles things differently, and I can honestly say that I have known multiple people who have had close friends or loved ones take their lives and that there was no prevalent, snowballing impact as there was in your family. That's not to say that there wasn't an impact, of course, but it was nothing that couldn't be overcome after a few months of coping with everything.

Ultimately, I understand what you're saying. You're speaking out of your own experience and, in the case of your family, I completely agree with your point. I just wish that you were able to understand that it is different for everybody and that you desperately need to stop blanketing everything and assuming that all suicides play out the same way.

With that, I'm out of this thread. And now for something completely different...

Yeah this thread sucks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border...nality_disorder

*grabs coat*

Yeah borderline people threaten suicide more than anyone. Goddamn manipulative attention whores.

Aww that was a great post.


It's so hard not to think of DA... and I am just so glad that he was such a big part of my life. He was part of some of the most fun years of my life. 19-24. Nothing will ever top those years.

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Originally posted by jennypie Yeah borderline people threaten suicide more than anyone. Goddamn manipulative attention whores.

considering 10% of those diagnosed actually die from their attempts it is most likely one of the mental disorders with the highest mortality rates.

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