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Posted by Jocker on Apr-08-2003 16:49:

great idea, man!!!
will venture to your site and see what i can.. buy


Posted by TranceEuphoria on Apr-08-2003 17:32:

Thumbs up

Great idea mate, i hope it works All artists should follow your way.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Apr-08-2003 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yet you keep doing that. Funny, huh?


i tell you whats even funnier....... the fact that a little boy from finland can hide behind a screen and try to be funny to everyone by putting them down and everything they talk about down, just cos youd get the fuck kicked outta you in real life.

you may have a mean looking guy with a gun at his head in your avatar now, but i remember your last one, you fucking cuteypie 15 year old little bitch. im sick to fuckin death of watching you be unsupportive of everything everyone says, like that **** micheline hoos now banned. but its only a matter of time b4 everyone else realises that your a (hyopthetically) bigger **** than he is.

fucking give it a rest FFS you fucking 15 year old baby faced virginal sheep in wolves clothing.


***sorry for ruining the thread nordlicht***


Posted by WillEastbury on Apr-08-2003 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
I was being realistc mate....maybe you should pull your head out of your arse.


Nordlicht...true mate, don't get me wrong I think its a fantastic idea, just hope people will co-operate with it


Quite right, go on and do it nordlicht.

Forget about the arsewipes like mystery who want to give everyone shit.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-08-2003 18:27:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15&pagenumber=5 <-- see the last post, I've had enough


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-08-2003 18:28:

quote:
Forget about the arsewipes like mystery who want to give everyone shit.

What did I say now?


Posted by Rhythm on Apr-08-2003 22:02:

good idea man
i hope other artists take similar steps as you have
keep up the good work!!


Posted by Ray_Finkle on Apr-09-2003 02:46:

I think that this is EXACTLY what more artists should be doing. This is an excellent idea. My only problem is...Encoded in 192k is a little on the low side. Any way you could encode it in 320k or hell, even a WAV file would be the best solution. If the problem is lack of space and bandwith, then I understand completely. Anyways, it's innovation like this that will keep the artists making money for all their hard work. It's good to see an artist try and work with technology rather than fight it like some artists (cough Metallica cough). Good luck mate!


Posted by Ze TranceLover on Apr-09-2003 02:50:

no differences between 320 kbps and 192 kbps! only the file size change, that's all.
192 kbps is PERFECT quality sound.
128 is too trebley, that sucks.

VERY VERY GOOD IDEA Nordlicht! you prove that MP3 isn't the evil
congratz


Posted by Ray_Finkle on Apr-09-2003 02:53:

I'm not going to derail this thread but I am going to get the last word in...IF you think 192k is perfect cd quality, then maybe it's time to get your ears checked! (not a flame I SWEAR!!!)


Posted by fastmp3 on Apr-09-2003 03:03:

hey Nordlicht , why don't you install paypal as well ? because lots of us have already accounts in there and i think the system ur using in your website can't let other a lot of non EU countries to pay


Posted by Lira on Apr-09-2003 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Nordlicht
Well.. but such a certificate is an interesting idea. I just don't know how such a certificate should look like.. any suggestions? =)

hhmmm.... I've got a suggestion

You could have some sort of shopping cart in the website that we could use to buy all the tunes we want with just one payment.

e.g.: If I want to buy "Within Each of us (radio mix)", "cry (club vocal mix)" and "Breath (radio mix)", I would just need to choose them from a list (checking some boxes, for example), click "buy" and I'd be taken to my shopping cart where I would be able to get all these three tunes with just one payment (of � 2,97).

Then, the system could create a customised CD cover with the tracklisting of the tunes I've chosen, i.e.

1 - "Within Each of us (radio mix)"
2 - "cry (club vocal mix)"
3 - "Breath (radio mix)"

... plus, it could also print the user's name on the cover above the tracklisting. (So, the CD title would be "John Doe's favourites" - obviously, instead of John Doe would come the costumer's name ). It would be some sort of proof that you actually payed for them. In my case, I would be proud everytime I looked at it (and who doesn't like to have something customised the way they like? ). Here's how it would look like:

The cover:



The back cover:



Just a thought What do you guys think?

ps.: I've got another suggestion but I believe you'd rather talk about it in private Also, I don't know whether I should pm you or not because you're probably receiving lots or pm's from other fans Anyway, if you liked this certificate thing and you're interested on hearing this other suggestion, just pm me and I hope it may be helpful as well

pps.: Is "Visa Electron" accepted in Europe?


Posted by robstar on Apr-09-2003 07:28:

Goodluck!!!
Hope it works but I doubt it. :/
I'll cross my fingers for ya!


Posted by fr0st on Apr-09-2003 11:17:

Love the idea......as far as someone asked earlier about tagging the mp3's use a id3 tag ive recently learned how to use them. Most mo3 release groups use them and they come with a .nfo .sfv file i dunno maybe thats a way...


Posted by arctic on Apr-09-2003 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
Love the idea......as far as someone asked earlier about tagging the mp3's use a id3 tag ive recently learned how to use them. Most mo3 release groups use them and they come with a .nfo .sfv file i dunno maybe thats a way...


ID tags are easily modified. That wouldn't work unfortunatley.


Posted by Nordlicht on Apr-10-2003 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
I think that this is EXACTLY what more artists should be doing. This is an excellent idea. My only problem is...Encoded in 192k is a little on the low side. Any way you could encode it in 320k or hell, even a WAV file would be the best solution. If the problem is lack of space and bandwith, then I understand completely. Anyways, it's innovation like this that will keep the artists making money for all their hard work. It's good to see an artist try and work with technology rather than fight it like some artists (cough Metallica cough). Good luck mate!

I BET with you, in a blind test you couldn't identify whether I was playing an MP3 encoded with 192 kbit/s or 320 kbit/s to you! =)

I was also thinking about encoding my releases with Ogg Vorbis, because it has a better quality at lower bit rates. But the thing is that MP3 is (yet) much more supported.


Posted by Nordlicht on Apr-10-2003 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ze TranceLover
VERY VERY GOOD IDEA Nordlicht! you prove that MP3 isn't the evil

No, the technology (MP3) is not to blame at all. I think the main problem is that people are not aware that P2P sharing IS illegal and is damaging the whole music industry - not just the big "bad" companies but especially the small labels and musicians who are NOT making millions. Believe me.. if I were bakerman, I would earn more money! =)


Posted by Nordlicht on Apr-10-2003 12:22:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
hey Nordlicht , why don't you install paypal as well ? because lots of us have already accounts in there and i think the system ur using in your website can't let other a lot of non EU countries to pay

The problem with PayPal is that you wouldn't have instant access to the MP3! With FirstGate, you enter your user name and password, and you get the MP3 IMMEDIATELY. That's a big advantage.
I don't get your point with customers from non-EU countries - why can't they pay?


Posted by Nordlicht on Apr-10-2003 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
Then, the system could create a customised CD cover with the tracklisting of the tunes I've chosen, i.e.

ps.: I've got another suggestion but I believe you'd rather talk about it in private Also, I don't know whether I should pm you or not because you're probably receiving lots or pm's from other fans Anyway, if you liked this certificate thing and you're interested on hearing this other suggestion, just pm me and I hope it may be helpful as well

pps.: Is "Visa Electron" accepted in Europe?

That's a very good idea indeed! But it's very hard to carry out.. it would mean lots of software development! Maybe rather suitable for a big company but not a small artist like me =)
But it might be a great idea for customized CDs.. you choose the songs, and then I will send out a cusomized CD to you, with jewel case and a color printed booklet.

Btw, of course you can send me private messages any time!


Posted by afastest on Apr-10-2003 12:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Nordlicht
Bread will never go away... Maybe the bakermen need to find another job then, and bake bread as their hobby, but new bread will be baken every day!


LOL

And what to downloading illegal music over the internet:
I think trance won't die because nobody supports musians, it just will be more pop, more mainstream and commercial. Like now, I don't think Ferry Corsten and DJ Tiesto are out of money to pay for food.
Some small sub-genres of electronic music maynot survive, because there is not enough dedicated and fanatic people who buy releases.

I think music must be cheaper than now. 6-10 � for one single is too much. And the sad thing is that, only very small part of that price goes to artists.


Posted by Nordlicht on Apr-10-2003 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by afastest
LOL
Like now, I don't think Ferry Corsten and DJ Tiesto are out of money to pay for food.

Well, probably Ferry Corsten and DJ Tiesto won't be out of money that soon, because these are the absolute trance super stars... but think of the many many smaller trance musicians (including me) who don't earn a fortune with music.

Let's be realistic.. if I wasn't doing something else besides music, I couldn't make a living.
The other way around: If I would earn enough money with music for a living, I could make music every day, and you could expect much more Nordlicht releases and remixes! =)


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