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Posted by Dj Martijn on May-31-2001 11:30:

and how did everything get 2 be there before us??i spose a big band came about and just created....sorry....popped everything up did it??

Posted by Dj Martijn on May-31-2001 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness
and you cant prove your beliefs so whats the difference in what hes saying to what you are saying.. and please dont say the bible is proof.

the bible is proof!!hehe

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 11:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn
and how did everything get 2 be there before us??i spose a big band came about and just created....sorry....popped everything up did it??

Yes it is difficult how it begon, but I don't believe there is a man upstairs who said boom bang and there is life on earth. It is slowly grown with water and sunlight and that is how become life is grown ( I suppose, I am not an expert)

Posted by theeyesofdarkness on May-31-2001 11:34:

hehe.. im gonna keep gettin in you guys discussion.. well hmm something prolly did have to create us.. you can call it what you want.. god, moon, jelly.. we dont know how we got here and thats the bottom line.. we can only have beliefs about it.. i dont have any belief.. i just dont know and cant really figure it out so i just leave it at that.

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness
hehe.. im gonna keep gettin in you guys discussion.. well hmm something prolly did have to create us.. you can call it what you want.. god, moon, jelly.. we dont know how we got here and thats the bottom line.. we can only have beliefs about it.. i dont have any belief.. i just dont know and cant really figure it out so i just leave it at that.

So what are you saying?Are you a christen or a jehova?

Posted by Blik on May-31-2001 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn
i can reel of a list
a. creation (Trees,flowers,plants)
b. everything perfectly designed--did u no if the sun was 1% further away we would not be able 2 live on earth!!
c. it says there is a creator in the bible
d. cosmological - everything in the universe has a cause so there must be a 1st cause--god!!
e. well u get my drift!!....

a. it all started with little bacterials (is this is word??) which evolved within 4 billion years to what we are now

b. that's the reason why there's only life on this planet and not on other planets like Mars etc......

c. Bible isn't a reliable source in my opinion

d. it started with a giant round thing of stone, it exploded ,cause there was too much pressure on it, and on this moment the universe is still expanding, don't give me that shit that the round thing was created by God

this is my reaction on what he says

Posted by Dj Martijn on May-31-2001 11:39:

ok then!! well it was nice talkin 2 u all..im goin off now 4 a bit ill speak 2 u laters..bye!

Posted by theeyesofdarkness on May-31-2001 11:39:

hehe im neither.. i dont believe in god

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 11:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik

a. it all started with little bacterials (is this is word??) which evolved within 4 billion years to what we are now

b. that's the reason why there's only life on this planet and not on other planets like Mars etc......

c. Bible isn't a reliable source in my opinion

d. it started with a giant round thing of stone, it exploded ,cause there was too much pressure on it, and on this moment the universe is still expanding, don't give me that shit that the round thing was created by God

this is my reaction on what he says

Oh Blik you are so true. I couldn't find the right words, but I totally agree with you.

Posted by theeyesofdarkness on May-31-2001 11:44:

well actually none of you know what you think is tru.. something couldve created us or we could be evolved particals or whatever. we really dont know.. i dont know why we try and figure it out.

Posted by Blik on May-31-2001 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Lex

Oh Blik you are so true. I couldn't find the right words, but I totally agree with you.

heb een beetje van die zooi bij levensbeschouwing gehad, altijd nuttig blijkt maar weer

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 11:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik

heb een beetje van die zooi bij levensbeschouwing gehad, altijd nuttig blijkt maar weer

Jezus levensbeschouwing??? Oh ja daar heb ik jou en WVG wel is over horen praten.

Posted by cyberia on May-31-2001 11:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn

the bible is proof!!hehe

bible was created(and invented) by human beings

Posted by Dj Martijn on May-31-2001 12:17:

...yes and inspired by god!!!

Posted by Blik on May-31-2001 12:27:

this is what we call a pointless discussion

Posted by cyberia on May-31-2001 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn
...yes and inspired by god!!!

God,also created(and invented) by human beings befor the bible,nobody talked about god,they talked about Gods

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by cyberia

God,also created(and invented) by human beings befor the bible,nobody talked about god,they talked about Gods

You are christen, moslim, jehova etc etc????

Posted by cyberia on May-31-2001 12:40:

hehe lex we found the man with worse English then yours lol ,trancegod

You are christen, moslim, jehova etc etc????
Are you askin' this to me? if yes,I'm just tranceaddicted

Posted by Dj Lex on May-31-2001 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by cyberia
hehe lex we found the man with worse English then yours lol ,trancegod

You are christen, moslim, jehova etc etc????
Are you askin' this to me? if yes,I'm just tranceaddicted

Okey sorry for my crappy English, we all know that. But I meant if you believe in God. I am also a TA, but I don't believe in GOD

Posted by DJ Juno on May-31-2001 13:00:

ok..heres juno's religious outlook of the day:

I dont practice any religion, on the grounds i dont believe in god. if god existed, and gods so great.. right... why does he allow so much bad shit to happen? ie, women being raped, people being murdered for no reason, etc etc. surely someone so wonderful and great would see to it that these things dont happen? but no, this shit just goes on and on and on, why the fucks he just "sit up there an do nothing" if you ask me, god can go fuck himself. NO IM NOT AN ANTI CHRIST... and i do not, in anyway, look upon people of god worshipping religions, in a bad way. if you wana pray, and go to church, if thats right for you, so be it. who am i to say thats right or wrong. people. dont take this the wrong way, im just statin an opionion, nothin more. im not an anti-missionary. i guess when you have a bad past as mine, what grounds do you have to base believein in god on? i duno, someone wana reply, im allways open for constructive critisisim....or a yellin for dissin god so much, either way, lemme know

-juno

Posted by Dj Martijn on May-31-2001 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Juno
ok..heres juno's religious outlook of the day:

I dont practice any religion, on the grounds i dont believe in god. if god existed, and gods so great.. right... why does he allow so much bad shit to happen? ie, women being raped, people being murdered for no reason, etc etc. surely someone so wonderful and great would see to it that these things dont happen? but no, this shit just goes on and on and on, why the fucks he just "sit up there an do nothing" if you ask me, god can go fuck himself. NO IM NOT AN ANTI CHRIST... and i do not, in anyway, look upon people of god worshipping religions, in a bad way. if you wana pray, and go to church, if thats right for you, so be it. who am i to say thats right or wrong. people. dont take this the wrong way, im just statin an opionion, nothin more. im not an anti-missionary. i guess when you have a bad past as mine, what grounds do you have to base believein in god on? i duno, someone wana reply, im allways open for constructive critisisim....or a yellin for dissin god so much, either way, lemme know

thats because mans done this 2 themselves putting themselves in this position but god will step in soon!!

-juno

Posted by cyberia on May-31-2001 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn
thats because mans done this 2 themselves putting themselves in this position but god will step in soon!!

God created human,so says the bible,so why should he step in?In the whole time humanity existed he didn't changed anything is this direction at human's,so why should he change now?

Oh and Lex,I don't believe in any religion,I just believe in people(existing peoeple that is)

Posted by Blik on May-31-2001 14:50:

martijn, you Jehova Witnesses always have these nice clothes on rite?

I want to see a pic with that clothes on

Posted by totalcarnage on May-31-2001 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Martijn
no nothing stupid like that...we believe many the same things as christians except 4 a few things like jesus wasnt born on a cross but a stake and we dont take other ppls blood like a transfusion and we dont celebrate birthdays, christmas, easter etc etc....ok?

That sucks...what a boring life then...

Being a JW, how do you see other religions? JW's think they are the only ones who are going to be saved (much like all religions)...so if people celebrate birthdays and christmas...are they going to hell?? and if not..then why do you not celebrate them then. (sorry i am trying to set you up to conrtadict yourself). Please dont take offense to what I say...just like bringing this shit up!

Posted by totalcarnage on May-31-2001 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Juno
ok..heres juno's religious outlook of the day:

I dont practice any religion, on the grounds i dont believe in god. if god existed, and gods so great.. right... why does he allow so much bad shit to happen? ie, women being raped, people being murdered for no reason, etc etc. surely someone so wonderful and great would see to it that these things dont happen? but no, this shit just goes on and on and on, why the fucks he just "sit up there an do nothing" if you ask me, god can go fuck himself. NO IM NOT AN ANTI CHRIST... and i do not, in anyway, look upon people of god worshipping religions, in a bad way. if you wana pray, and go to church, if thats right for you, so be it. who am i to say thats right or wrong. people. dont take this the wrong way, im just statin an opionion, nothin more. im not an anti-missionary. i guess when you have a bad past as mine, what grounds do you have to base believein in god on? i duno, someone wana reply, im allways open for constructive critisisim....or a yellin for dissin god so much, either way, lemme know

-juno

Juno...you and I are very much alike...I also am an atheist. of course I wasnt always that way...I grew up with religion...Guess I just came to a realization one day, and I too have had many..many..a bad experience...

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