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Posted by evil_bastard on May-12-2003 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Everybody always seems to overlook defenders and goalkeepers when it comes to these questions.

That's natural in all walks of life I'm afraid. The people in the spotlight will always be the ones at the front. What do people think of when they think of war heroes? They think of soldiers charging around, not the logistics personnel and so on who played an equally important role. It's just the same with football. Strikers are the matchwinners who put a smile on fans' faces, goalkeepers can only ever bring a sigh of relief.

That's why I asked people to pick an all-time eleven, to represent all the positions.

Posted by PacMan on May-12-2003 16:07:

code:

                  Ian Rush  Kenny Dalglish



Zinedine Zidane   Maradona  Steven Gerrard  Luis Figo


John Arne Riise   Maldini   Martin Keown   Markus Babbel(before the virus)
                      Bruce Grobbelaar(GK)

Posted by Disney on May-13-2003 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
I mentioned him in the first post.

Oh... My bad

Then why has no one else mentioned him

Posted by P�Re-Energy on May-14-2003 03:07:

not even a question about playmaker/mid-fielder...

Johan Cruyff

Posted by HalifaxGooner on May-14-2003 03:39:

Quite brilliantly amusing

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
maradona is the greatest player. thats why he received Fifa player of the century award.. and not Pele. pele is overrated. he was the best in the 50's but that doesnt say much. its like saying hendrix was the greatest guitar player ever.. thats wrong since eddie van halen is hendrix just started it up in the early days.. just like Pele did. you take Pele and put him up right now he will get raped. Maradona will survive and will dominate because hes the greatest

Now I might be wrong, but judging from your pic, you don't look like you remember the 50's too well. I may be way off base. You may be a posterchild for Oil of Olay, but then again, the only people I know who remember the 50's aren't using internet forums on a regular basis. Yes of course, you're bang on with your sharp analysis. People like Pele, Puskas, Eusebio, Matthews were all crap really weren't they. With their long shorts and their boring black & white kits. Couldn't fucking make it for Shrewsbury reserves could they?! Maradona may have been a better all round player. Certainly pretty good at volleyball for a little fucking midget. STILL claiming he didn't put the ball in the net in '86 with his hand, and STILL justifying an appearance fee for a Europe vs. Rest of the World charity match while every other player appeared free, makes him as much of an ambassador for football as King Herod was for babysitting, and what for fuck's sake, exactly is it that "he will dominate"??? I've been thoroughly amused by the most ridiculous comment I've read on here in a while. Thankyou. "Pele was overrated." LOL. Fucking brilliant!!!

Posted by gatecrasher on May-14-2003 21:01:

Diego Maradona Pele

Zico

Cruyff Zinedine Zidane Davids

Maldini Franco Baresi Franz Beckenbauher Lilian Thuram

Dino Zoff

Posted by torontotrance on May-18-2003 19:09:

argue these

i doubt you can...only maradona is arguable

1.Ferenc Puskas
2.Bobby Charlton
3.Pele
4.Di Stefano
5.Garincha
6.Eusebio
7.Cryuff
8.Platini
9.Beckenbauer
10.Maradona
11.Stanley Matthews
12.Lev Yashin (the black panther)

Posted by Opti on May-21-2003 00:20:

Johan Cruyff! Also the best coach!!

Posted by Haunted on May-21-2003 21:37:

Re: Quite brilliantly amusing

quote:
Originally posted by HalifaxGooner
Now I might be wrong, but judging from your pic, you don't look like you remember the 50's too well. I may be way off base. You may be a posterchild for Oil of Olay, but then again, the only people I know who remember the 50's aren't using internet forums on a regular basis. Yes of course, you're bang on with your sharp analysis. People like Pele, Puskas, Eusebio, Matthews were all crap really weren't they. With their long shorts and their boring black & white kits. Couldn't fucking make it for Shrewsbury reserves could they?! Maradona may have been a better all round player. Certainly pretty good at volleyball for a little fucking midget. STILL claiming he didn't put the ball in the net in '86 with his hand, and STILL justifying an appearance fee for a Europe vs. Rest of the World charity match while every other player appeared free, makes him as much of an ambassador for football as King Herod was for babysitting, and what for fuck's sake, exactly is it that "he will dominate"??? I've been thoroughly amused by the most ridiculous comment I've read on here in a while. Thankyou. "Pele was overrated." LOL. Fucking brilliant!!!

is this a "best overall player" thread? or is it a "best overall player OF HIS TIME" thread

because THEN Pele would be it. Kinda like Hendrix was the best guitarist OF HIS TIME. but if you look at other guitarists such as Eddie van halen.. who blow Hendrix out of the water when it comes to skill (just listen to Eruption). also Slash is a killer guitarist
but enough of that
im talkin about best overall player,as i mentioned before.. take Pele at his prime and Mara at his prime. who do you think will dominate? it might be fairly close but i believe Maradona will come out on top.

Posted by evil_bastard on May-22-2003 01:50:

If someone says "Pele was better than Maradona" they don't mean "Pele was the best of his time" they mean, believe it or not, that Pele was better than Maradona. I think Pele was the greatest ever, 1,280 goals in 1,360 games is just unbelievable, he was a scoring machine!

Posted by magik_ss on May-23-2003 17:57:

I say Pele, he was wizard with the ball and true sportsmen....
Maradona was a great player but a junkie....

Posted by ++ EGO ++ on May-25-2003 16:26:

best modern player:
Zidane!

Posted by noikeee on May-26-2003 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
goalkeeper - zoff
defender - baresi
midfield - eusebio
forward - pele

eusebio was a forward..

but there is no point IMO in saying who's 'the best player ever', competing level evolues from year to year, therefore the best player nowadays is 50 times better than the best player in the 40's decade.

Posted by dreamdecks on May-26-2003 16:55:

alan shearer for obvious reasons!

Posted by sebby on May-29-2003 07:22:

But if players of the past were to play now, they would be conditioned better, stronger and faster. So it really is hard to say who the best football player of all time really was/is.

Hold on! I have a great idea! Let me wake up my dad and ask him this question. Surely his answer will matter more than mine.

[jeopardy theme]

Doh! I got a black eye and didn't get shit from him. Thanks alot guys. I'll try to get the answer tommorow.

BTW, my answer is Pele. His name is mentioned more than any other football player. Think about it this way. There has to be a reason that Pele's name would come up first if you were to mention the sport soccer/football. Not to take away all the other great players of their respective times.

Posted by torontotrance on May-31-2003 19:26:

as I said....my list still represents the best.

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