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Originally posted by j_spot hey dont worry miss P, myself, I just smoke up. But my sis..now shes hardcore. Shes done coke, acid, heroin, special K, weed, shrooms, meth, and some of em @ the same time. I give her shit when I find her sniffeling @ home...cuz I can deal with weed and shrooms, but the hard stuff I cant...so I give her shit. oh and I take Ephedrine. Its a over the counter nasal decongestant that does some odd odd things to you. but its really bad for your heart. So never 2 nites in a row.

jep!! staying awake for long kicks your brain badly sometimes!!

my longest awake "nite" was from Sunday 1:00pm to Friday 4:00pm!!

well i�m not proud of it but its kind of interesting when u see how u react, recognize situations and how easy u can be influenced when u havent got a that strong personality/knowledge of yourself in this situations!!

when u r kind of weak and be that long awake, things get quite fucked up sometimes in your brain!!!

once in this "long nite" we drove in a car(i was on the back seat and could hear every spoken word coz of banging music) and i thought a friend of mine made bad jokes bout another guy i didnt like very much, so i joined in and made bad jokes myself either(i�m nasty sometimes)!!
but two days later when i got some sleep again he asked me why i did this jokes and he told me he never did jokes like this to the guy!!!

it was ALL JUST IN MY BRAIN that i thought he was doing it!!!
all what i thought that i�ve listend to, all the body-language i watched of them were recognized completly wrong by myself!!!
this was really bad, and a sign to me!!!

its kinda cool and much fun being awake that long but it totally sucks you and your inner energy up!!!

What about an option for those of us that dont smoke dope??

Oh WOW... I look at you guys and think holy shit I was a bad person.
I started smoki weed in grade 8 (age 12-13). Then shrooms and Acid.
Then at about age 15 I was heavily adicted to Heroin. (NOT GOOD)
I kicked that after about a year and got into crack cokane and mescaline. (ALSO VERY BAD) After bout a year of that I kicked it and I was clean for 8 months. Than My Dad died and I got into E, K, mescaline once again, and also this suff called 2CT7. It is a hallucinagen 28 times stronger than the most powerful acid you could ever find. I quit all but E, K ,Weed, and Shrooms. And a word of advice. Know what your getting yourself into. You don't want to end up like me. It's been about 7 years since my first trip and I wish I could take most of it back.

Peace

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Originally posted by Electric_Hybrid Oh WOW... I look at you guys and think holy shit I was a bad person. I started smoki weed in grade 8 (age 12-13). Then shrooms and Acid. Then at about age 15 I was heavily adicted to Heroin. (NOT GOOD) I kicked that after about a year and got into crack cokane and mescaline. (ALSO VERY BAD) After bout a year of that I kicked it and I was clean for 8 months. Than My Dad died and I got into E, K, mescaline once again, and also this suff called 2CT7. It is a hallucinagen 28 times stronger than the most powerful acid you could ever find. I quit all but E, K ,Weed, and Shrooms. And a word of advice. Know what your getting yourself into. You don't want to end up like me. It's been about 7 years since my first trip and I wish I could take most of it back. Peace

uuuh!! i think u r a really lucky guy!! u r still alive!!
praise god for it, not many who started that early with these drugs and that sort of drugs are still alive!!

i hope u r away from that really hard ones, and that u feel good...

btw: dont wish taking it back, acept it as your past and as a part of you coz... it was you who did all this and u had a reason for it!!
find the real reason behind and u can acept ur past...

greetz

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Originally posted by Suzaku Miss Proximus... I'm here with you no need to be lonely I know there are others on the TA forums who do ecstasy on a regular basis, perhaps they're just afraid to voice themselves. The first time I dropped was over two years ago, and semi-regularly since. Unfortunately the stigma surrounding drug-use, prevents a lot of people from being more open-minded. For some reason in American culture it is ok to take drugs which do almost the same thing as ecstasy, such as prozac and other seratonin releasers, for depression or when something is medically diagnosed as wrong, but as soon as you start taking drugs for pleasure it immediately becomes wrong and immoral. And yet alcohol and nicotine are perfectly fine and legal to use for pleasure even though both have been clinically proven to be addictive and cause serious damage to your body. It's all about self-control and education. I won't lie, some of these things can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, but with knowledge and guidance it can be a safe experience. Anyhow I've been rambling for far too long now, I give all respect to everybody who chooses not to indulge... please do the same for us

Perfectly said, you have a good head on your shoulders

I've been doing drugs about 3 yrs, I didn't start till I was 24. In fact I used to be very anti-drug, so much so that I was losing friends because I was so mean to those who smoked weed.. I was pretty ignorant, and it took my best friend to show me just how stupid I was being. My first experience was with mushrooms, and to this day its my drug of choice.. I like the fact mushrooms are quite safe, and me doing them is not going to damage me. I do E once in a while, but I am more carefull with it because there are many unknowns about long term risks. I also partake in smoking weed, hash, but not very often. I don't smoke so its not fun to inhale smoke for me.

I just had an amazing experience on mushrooms last weekend when I went camping, if anybody wants to read my trip experience, you can here What dreams may come

Like suzaku said, saying drugs are bad or that drugs are something you don't like if you've never done them is pretty unfair. Its fine if you choose not to do drugs, its your choice, but please respect that there are many millions who responsibly use drugs..

And like usual drug users don't think equally of certain drugs, I would never try crack, heroin, opium, etc... I stick with things I feel comfortable in doing, especially since I am concerned with my health. But for people who smoke and drink, you are in many ways being pretty unfair if you insult people who smoke weed, do mushrooms... The government allows many forms of perscription drugs that are much worse than weed and mushrooms, why is that ok while mushrooms and weed are illegal..

Anyways, enough ranting.. If you're interested in mushrooms, please check out my website www.shroomery.org, its the worlds biggest mushroom website

The Shroomer's Manifesto

Someone posted this at the Shroomery recently, I thought it was really cool. Its taken from the Hacker Manifesto from many years ago..

It speaks my thoughts quite well
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The Shroomer Manifesto

Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Psychedelic Drug Scandal". Damn kids. They're all alike.

But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the user? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him? I am a shroomer, enter my world...

Mine is a world that begins with school... I don't get along with the other kids. I'm weird. Damn weirdos. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a drug. A mushroom. Wait a second, this is cool. There's a different world, a world away from teachers and books and normality. A door to the universe. A door to a world where perception is infinite and reality is an illusion.

Damn kids. All they do is take drugs. They're all the same.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found.

I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...
You bet your ass we're all alike...

We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of growing something that can easily be found in nature. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

I am a shroomer, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

Thanks for the compliments on the previous posts Thor, I think intelligent discussion is something that is definetely lacking sometimes on this board.

No offense but the "shroomer manifesto" fits much better in it's orginal form as the hackers manifesto, and it would be a shame not to show the original also...

Hackers Manifesto -

Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"... Damn kids. They're all alike

But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him? I am a hacker, enter my world... Mind is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Damn underachiever. They're all alike

I'm in juniour high or high school. I've listened to the teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..." Damn kid probably copied it. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up.
Not because it doesn't like me...
Or feels threatened by me...
Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does it play games. They're all alike.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiousity. My cirme is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

+++The Mentor+++

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