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Posted by occrider on May-23-2003 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by bluelimitd
It's funny you guys say that the spoiler is a california thing since it is a factory part that came stock on the cars imported from Germany. Come on guys, you know better than that


To me it looks fake! But I'll take your word for it. Why does a beemer need a spoiler though?


Posted by Orbax on May-23-2003 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
To me it looks fake! But I'll take your word for it. Why does a beemer need a spoiler though?



down force...


Posted by Orbax on May-23-2003 21:52:

Re: Re: my BMW is unleashed!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by trancedfarmer
yeah! way to go rich america!


unless you are saying something legit the makes people want to kill you. any point you may have been trying to make is forgotten in the red mist that covers the visions of the readers. So unless you are just being an ass (which is highly possible) use words instead of emoticons if you want to make a point, otherwise you are just being a wank.

cheers


Posted by Tranc3 on May-23-2003 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
down force...


Yeah but the amount of downforce produced is not enough to warrant a spoiler. I mean with F1 cars then a spoiler is absolutely necessary (taking 90 degree turns at 60 mph ) but for "normal" cars all spoilers really do is cut down on gas mileage.


Posted by bluelimitd on May-24-2003 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Yeah but the amount of downforce produced is not enough to warrant a spoiler. I mean with F1 cars then a spoiler is absolutely necessary (taking 90 degree turns at 60 mph ) but for "normal" cars all spoilers really do is cut down on gas mileage.


A valid point, however the E30 M3 is not a normal car by any means. They only released 5 thousand of them to the streets, and released far more than that on the race track. This car came straight from the factory as a bull blown race car, and the spoiler is absolutely necessary to provide ample down force. And yes, this car can take sharp turns at very high speeds (far more than 60). Your case would be right in many cases, but this car is not a "normal" car at all. I could give you a ride on a curvy road and you would lose your lunch. I know because it has happened before.

-Tyler


Posted by bluelimitd on May-24-2003 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
down force...


Exactly. And how does the spoiler look fake? Where are you guys getting your arguments? I'm so confused here....

Don't make these statements please, unless you know what you are looking at. I am not trying to start a war, just stating please do some research before making blatant critical comments. Thanks

-Tyler


Posted by bluelimitd on May-24-2003 01:46:

Perhaps this will clear things up as to what the car was made for:



The E30 M3 stands today as the winningest DTM race car of all time. Over a span of 4 years it managed to win more races than any other DTM car in the world. That record still stands.

-Tyler


Posted by mikefasssy on May-24-2003 01:51:

hey at least its not a honda


Posted by robstar on May-24-2003 01:55:

Nice car!!
I usally don't like white cars, but I think it fits this lil beemer.
Cool rims too!

Drive carefully!

- Celica lover!


Posted by biznology on May-24-2003 10:46:

quote:
Originally posted by bluelimitd
A valid point, however the E30 M3 is not a normal car by any means. They only released 5 thousand of them to the streets, and released far more than that on the race track. This car came straight from the factory as a bull blown race car, and the spoiler is absolutely necessary to provide ample down force. And yes, this car can take sharp turns at very high speeds (far more than 60). Your case would be right in many cases, but this car is not a "normal" car at all. I could give you a ride on a curvy road and you would lose your lunch. I know because it has happened before.

-Tyler


yah hes right. alt this gen m3 in the States wasnt as 'purebreed race car' as the Euro model, it still isnt as tame as your average Accord with a spoiler...

generally the rule is that high amounts of downforce arent needed unless the car goes above 200- but you cant get nitpicky. and i dunno why its assumed that only CA cars have spoilers on them|


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